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Kinda crazy that Switch didn't get any major AAA third parties for launch........
- Thread starter Mikey Jr.
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Every single Nintendo machine I've bought has been specifically for a third party game. Zero interest in Nintendo games.
I guess you'll be skipping Mario Kart then?
Well the Wii U was an par with the consoles that got AAA releases. That isn't really case now. It just doesn't make sense for 3rd parties to make AAA just for the switch especially now that we have moved past the cross gen port thing.
It is kinda disappointing that devs like capcom or atlus didn't step up for the switch launch window.
How many AAA games on handheld do you really see from western devs?
It is kinda disappointing that devs like capcom or atlus didn't step up for the switch launch window.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Not sure why you're surprised man. Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter have quite the pull.
You're not understanding what happens to the performance of modern tablets when they run intense games for long periods in terms of cooling and battery power.
Or was that sarcasm?
I'm guessing Bayonnetta 2. That's what I bought WiiU for.
I got one for free but would have gotten a Wii for Sin and Punishment:Star Successor
The Artisan
Member
GBA- Castlevania
DS and 3DS - SMT and other Atlus titles
Wii U - Taiko no tatsujin games
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The WiiU launch lineup universally selling like ass is why you see the trepidation. Nintendo has to prove the system is selling, and selling to people who want to buy AAA games. Having Zelda at launch (vs Nintendoland and NSMB) will help in that regard.
But I think you realise that you're part of a tiny minority there.
I bought the 3ds for Ace Attorney, the Wii for Fatal Frame 4 and WiiU for Fatal Frame 5. Though Nintendo co-owns the ip or the new games or something.
I don't usually like classic Nintendo Ips very much.
And people who ask, "who buys Nintendo for third parties?" don't get that is a problem. Especially if Nintendo wants to price the console at the same price as two other that do get third parties. One benefit the switch does have this time though is that it can be a handheld too and Nintendo at this point has that market to itself. Unfortunately a lot of that market has gone to mobile but there still is room for one handheld (I think).
March release really. There wasn't enough time to even try to port any early year titles and the end of year titles are still being made. 2018 is the true test IMHO because it feels like Nintendo didn't give out dev kits until late last year. As long as Switch sells well, it seems third parties are more open to supporting it this time.
AdventureRacing
Member
I agree that 2018 is the real test and it feels like the switch will have a lot more SW by then. I think 3rd parties will have started showing up (especially in Japan) and Nintendo will have released quite a few heavy hitters.
My concern is how the next few months affect the console. The lineup between here and E3 is awful. That doesn't really bide well for how the switch will be received and I think sometimes it's hard to change that initial perception.
If they can get through the next 4-5 months ok then I think they'll be in a pretty good place.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Those 100 million didn't buy Wii's to play AAA western games though. And I don't imagine switch getting anywhere near 100 million units.
I think it's crazy that some are expecting the same 3rd party AAA games on other consoles to magically appear on the Switch at launch. What company is cutting their game down to meet a March release date to compete against Zelda?
The Switch will have lots of games in the coming weeks, and third parties will be there once they see the device sell. If you don't need to play Zelda at launch, then wait to see what gets announced at E3 and make your decision then. There's nothing wrong with waiting.
I just look for great games to play on the Switch. I don't care who makes them or how many A's people want to label them with. Plus I have a PC that's going to play AAA games better than the two underpowered consoles.
The Switch will have lots of games in the coming weeks, and third parties will be there once they see the device sell. If you don't need to play Zelda at launch, then wait to see what gets announced at E3 and make your decision then. There's nothing wrong with waiting.
I just look for great games to play on the Switch. I don't care who makes them or how many A's people want to label them with. Plus I have a PC that's going to play AAA games better than the two underpowered consoles.
Well, the only AAA games I have consistently enjoyed are Sony first parties, and I'm not expecting those to release on the Switch.
Even if I don't care about them, I won't act like having them is not important for the success of the console, that's what some people seem to think, that Nintendo games are enough.
Quality over Quantity this time around IMO.
Got a wiiU at launch and only things that interested me were ZombiU and NSMBU neither of which was mindblowing (although ZombiU was surprisingly good). The rest of the titles while good were more expensive than their 360 counterparts (which I had the system at the time), were releasing late, and some had notable omissions in a few.
Got a wiiU at launch and only things that interested me were ZombiU and NSMBU neither of which was mindblowing (although ZombiU was surprisingly good). The rest of the titles while good were more expensive than their 360 counterparts (which I had the system at the time), were releasing late, and some had notable omissions in a few.
SporeCrawler
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none. handhelds are mostly japanese devs.
We're about to find out.
Castlevania is a big game for a 2D machine like GBA.
Wii got Red Steel, COD 3, Monkey Ball, Madden, Need for Speed
Wii U got late ports like Batman, Assassin's Creed, COD, Darkstalkers, Epic Mickey, FIFA, Madden, Zombi U
Switch is getting some small games or indie games that are priced like higher budget games.
Even 3DS got Street Fighter 4, Tekken and Dead or Alive. Vita got Marvel Vs Capcom 3. But so far Switch is getting a overpriced released of SF2 HD Remix and Pocket Rumble.
It seems so far Devs are investing smaller titles into the Switch rather than higher budget games.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Wow, you're VASTLY overestimating how powerful the Switch is. It doesn't have a chance in hell to run most ambitious 3rd party game at anything even remotely resembling how they look on the other consoles. And don't bother countering with Skyrim, because that's a last-gen game (and the Switch version will look more like the 360 version than the remaster).
Of course if they don't like Zelda then they obviously won't buy the console at launch. Although to be fair, I'm not a huge fan of Zelda, haven't played/finished most of the games, but I was really excited for BotW.
I'll definitely pick up a switch later on. Hopefully it's not dead by the time more of Nintendos big releases are out. I'm so happy I still have my wiiu to play Zelda as it's amazing. For me there's nothing I want coming anytime soon. No one should really be surprised by the lack of third party releases. What major third party games are coming out right now anyways? Those companies know they won't make money off of a switch port when 99% of the people buying switch are just getting Zelda.
Same, I never really get into Zelda games, but fuck me if BOTW isn't one of the best, most addicting games I've played in years.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Are you sure you can pretend its not an issue if it run like a mess even on home consoles? Because I don't think so.
I sincerely doubt it, but if the concept and value proposition wins over consumers, developers might need to rush in to do... something. If it works, this will be a pretty interesting ride. If it doesn't work out that way, it's a piece of history I guess.
elrechazado
Banned
Nice image. What games?
elrechazado
Banned
Thread title - read it?
I did?
elrechazado
Banned
Then why post that picture?
Because you asked what games were coming from those publishers.
The Abominable Snowman
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A lot of those indies are also really old ports sold at full price. Lol
SporeCrawler
Member
he is implying that all of those games are not worth AAA status (whatever that is. in the past anything over 90/100 was AAA now it seems some games can be AAA with 70/100 while others wont be AAA with 98/100)
switch is not just wiiu its wiiu+3DS
I'm surprised Capcom isn't bothered by that "Super Black Jack Battle 2" logo. lol
elrechazado
Banned
I'm afraid you're confused.
Image of a list of devs and publishers was posted in a thread asking why there were no AAA games on the switch at launch.
I said nice image, what games - a comment pointing out that a list of publishers is irrelevant to the question in the OP.
You posted an image with a bunch of unreleased games and titles.
I pointed out again the title of the thread, to point out how irrelevant your image was both to my comment and the thread topic itself.
Why would you think posting that image is relevant to any of what's being discussed?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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While I see what you're getting at... All the sports games you're padding with are shit ports and many had LESS features than their previous gen counterparts. I'm not sure I'm putting any of those in the "major AAA third parties" grouping you want. It took the NHL series like 3 years on PS4 to finally add back functionality that was there for years in the previous gen.
What big AAA 3rd Party game is launching right about now?
Everyone made room for For Honor, Horizon and Zelda. Sure, For Honor could have been ported over, but even that was so different and unproven and it would have been a late port.
I imaginehe real AAA test will be this holiday season - will CoD release on the Switch (most likely), will Destiny 2 (most likely not), will the next Assassin's Creed (no idea)?
By then you have the complete Online Ecosystem on which some 3rd Partys might be dependent and a somewhat solid userbase that's done with Zelda, Mario Kart, Arms and Splatoon and maybe wants a AAA alternative to Mario Odyssey that's not following Nintendo's style.
We'll see at E3 at the latest if 3rd parties will make the effort, but until then, we'll just have to wait.
Everyone made room for For Honor, Horizon and Zelda. Sure, For Honor could have been ported over, but even that was so different and unproven and it would have been a late port.
I imaginehe real AAA test will be this holiday season - will CoD release on the Switch (most likely), will Destiny 2 (most likely not), will the next Assassin's Creed (no idea)?
By then you have the complete Online Ecosystem on which some 3rd Partys might be dependent and a somewhat solid userbase that's done with Zelda, Mario Kart, Arms and Splatoon and maybe wants a AAA alternative to Mario Odyssey that's not following Nintendo's style.
We'll see at E3 at the latest if 3rd parties will make the effort, but until then, we'll just have to wait.
Nintendo could've worked out deals to have last fall's 3rd party games ported to the Switch as launch titles (e.g. Dishonored 2). It would've been amazing if they had a game like Rocket League available at launch.
As I said because you asked what games were coming from those publishers but it seems the point of your response was to imply that no AAA third party games were out from those publishers at launch. Which I apologize for misconstruing.
SporeCrawler
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western third party support? no chance, japanese third party support. im sure switch will get 3ds level of support.