AcademicSaucer
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If they want to sell that amount they need their handheld games on the Switch
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WSJ: Nintendo now to manufacture 16 million Switch consoles next FY, up from 8m
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LegendofLex
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It'll just be a nicer-looking version of Pokemon Sun & Moon.
I didn't even realize it was that low until I looked it up earlier this year. The vast majority of kids I knew had one. I only personally knew like two who had a PlayStation. Pretty good example of anecdote vs reality.
You're right about beating the SNES, but it seems much more possible to me than it did in January.
This.
Also, the thing about beating their old numbers to me is an odd one. Should we be considering handheld numbers in that too? As in, if we're wanting to compare Switch numbers to the "N64" generation, should we be comparing Switch to N64 + Gameboy Colour? Or Gamecube and Gameboy Advance? If Switch is going to be their only system going forward, wouldn't they need to sell really well in order to make it "worth it" so to speak?
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Slightly off topic, but is there an excuse for Pokemon game on the switch to still make the pokemon sound like they did on the gameboy?
Prettier textures, more modes, more interaction with characters. I think certain things (totem battles) would improve a lot if you can use two pokémon at same time and the totem pokémon invoke 2 pokémon instead; also, mix the horde and SOS battle in someway. Of course if that happen I would expect triple and rotatory battles return, too.
Diprosalic
Banned
you go and record almost a thousand new sounds.
i don't think they're being lazy here, it's just part of the charm.
geordiemp
Member
Planning and committing to mean different things.
They could be planning 16 million, but only committing to 1.5 million per month 2 months in advance say. So no its not clear.
Anyway, consoles selling is good for the industry, it all needs to be higher
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Comparing sales from past generations to current doesn't seem right to me. There were fewer gamers back then. In my childhood houshold, after my brother moved out, there was only one gamer in the house and those games were played in my bedroom.
My current houshold, I have a Xbox One and PC in the downstairs living room, a Wii U in the upstairs living room, a PS4 in my master bedroom and a Nintendo Switch and Wii and my daughters bedroom.
Just my thought on the matter, as 3/3 people in my house play video games today, versus 1/4 when I was a kid.
My current houshold, I have a Xbox One and PC in the downstairs living room, a Wii U in the upstairs living room, a PS4 in my master bedroom and a Nintendo Switch and Wii and my daughters bedroom.
Just my thought on the matter, as 3/3 people in my house play video games today, versus 1/4 when I was a kid.
Steve Youngblood
Member
*Looks at list again*
Let's ignore for a second that these are rumored already. I get it, we don't trust the """insiders""". Let's just call this a pure wishlist here. This list is hardly shooting for the stars. In fact, just looking at the post you're replying to, I don't really understand how this would result in a huge E3 if it did all come true. Mind you, it's stuff I would personally buy, but that is certainly not a sexy list there.
Skittzo0413
Member
Huh?
I have seen very few examples of a screen scratched by the dock, something like 3-4 examples with actual visual evidence. The way the dock is built this shouldn't be possible at all, unless the dock is warped due to poor packaging/shipping as some people have been reporting.
The dock being warped is obviously a Nintendo problem but they can fix that with better packaging rather than a revision. The left joycon issue seems to be much more widespread but I still haven't experienced that myself with two pairs of joycons I've bought.
But the screen scratching appears to be massively overblown, to the point where I don't even believe it's happening to even 1% of units.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Can't they use the TV show? Seems like something someone can do in a week or two's time.
I think it is in terms of the doubters who don't think the Switch has anything to offer in its first year. If at Christmas time you were wondering what to buy, and the Switch had Zelda, Mario, Smash, Pokemon, and Virtual Console, that'd be pretty sweet. And I mean, let's say that list is 100% accurate. There would be more than just that, Nintendo always has surprises. A lot of those surprises miss their mark, but not all of them.
I still say Retro is working on a 2.5D Metroid game with the Tropical Freeze engine, but that's a pie in the sky idea if there ever was one.
Graphics Horse
Member
The game boy sounds are canon
Diprosalic
Banned
maybe they would have to pay royalities to the voice actors.
pikachu has his voice in the game and the VA is credited in the game.
but as i said they probably couldn't on the 3ds for space and just used the old one's because it has a certain charm to it.
Diprosalic
Banned
considering he has pokemon on there, isn't this exactly what he's doing?
i think GC VC remains unlikely, he's also hoping for this to be announced at E3 and out this year.
Steve Youngblood
Member
It said Pokemon port. I assumed we were just talking about the rumored Sun/Moon port.
Diprosalic
Banned
it was a bad gag because it's rumoured to be called Pokemon Stars
Omnistalgic
Member
lol...
Part of me is thinking they are overshooting here and I should just wait and maybe get a packed in game for the same price in the Fall, but what the heck, I'll buy into Nintendo early this time, I skipped WIiU, so I'm ready to be burned by any early adopters woes.
Version 3.0
Member
Best of luck, Nintendo. I would love to see the Switch succeed. I would love to see the Switch deserve to succeed.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Oh, right. I didn't get enough sleep last night.
It's a code name
Actually, Eurogamer (or more specifically Tom Phillips) was the original source of the GameCube Virtual Console & Pokémon Stars reports. The Smash port was originally mentioned by Serkan Toto (who has a solid track record) & was backed by Emily Rogers & Source Gaming, the latter of whom called the removal of Miiverse for the Switch.
RichiRamjag
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Majority of that thread is people who haven't experienced that problem acting hysterical about it. That said, i feel for those who actually did experience it, but from what I've seen on Reddit and gaf, ninty has been pretty quick about warranty stuff.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Nah, there will be old ass ports and shovelware.
Yeah, I was thinking that would happen since the Switch unveil. A smaller "pocketable" handheld that's one solid piece, no detaching parts... still upholding the Switch concept by being playable on TV with optional mini dock and existing Joycons/Pro controller.
Definitely don't see a smaller Switch with smaller Joycons being a thing. They're too small as is and would clutter the Switch ecosystem with too many attachments at retail. It would be confusing.
I mean, logistically speaking, having a 3DS version would mean that people would have a way out of the Switch's paid online (something that wouldn't be much of an issue for Fire Emblem Warriors). Plus Stars being Switch-only would be another way to move units.
I'm not saying it's a sure-fire deal, but rather a possibility.
I don't know why since the Xbox is becoming increasingly a 1 market console ( N.A. Market) and MS themselves are not producing new I.P. for the console. I have a feeling that The Xbox pro is gonna bomb.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Heh. To be clear, I wasn't really trying to delve into the validity of any of these rumors.
Skittzo0413
Member
Actually now that you mention it, Serkan Toto mentioned Smash would be one of several Bamco titles coming "at the NX launch". Which didn't materialize obviously.
I wonder if they're strategically delaying those completed games like they seem to be doing with Mario Odyssey. Or Serkan Toto could have just been wrong.
Yeah honestly I think all of these hardware related problems seem to be massively overblown. Admittedly, I say that as someone whose Switch is working perfectly so I haven't experienced any issues.
I mean, we are getting Xenoverse 2 on the Switch, so there's that.
I'd imagine that a Switch Mini would be a thing a year or two down the road should the platform prove to be successful in the long-term.
That's basically what I said.
The Xbox is already being ignored by Japanese third parties so it's in a similar situation, really.
C'mon bro. There have been way more than that. The screen scratching is due to their plastic screens. In 2017 a consumer product with a large touchscreen should not be plastic. And if it is a packaging issue then I would imagine that way more than "1% of units" are being effected here.
LegendofLex
Member
Don't look only at Nintendo's past numbers. Look at the industry as a whole. It's down this generation. If Nintendo can stem the decline, that'd be what we'd need to see for Switch to be "worth it."
Depends what you regard as an acceptable excuse, but I wouldn't necessarily shrug off 'continuity' as being one.
Weltall Zero
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BigTuna109
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Seems like a good sign. Isn't it only projected to sell 5 million in its first year though? I guess Nintendo knows something we don't.
I think its much more likely to be a Clamshell portable device. The Tablet makes up the top half while the bottom half features both Joycons and an aditional battery (or HD)
This keeps the optics of the device familiar to those who enjoyed the 3D, Protects the screen while in transit and increases the battery life/storage capacity
Yes I get that. My point was that the people who want those games most likely already have a Playstation or Xbox. While the PS4 obviously still has some momentum going, generally the third/fourth year is when you start seeing some plateauing, definitely you notice this with xbone. That's why you see PlayStation introducing PSVR, to lure in other people who aren't interested in Destiny 2 etc., and both companies introduce hardware revisions, to effectively sell the same console twice to the same person (or eke out a few from the immediate competition). There might still be some people on older systems or waiting for the price to go down a bit further. In general these are set on getting that PS4 anyway, that was what I was saying.
The Switch conversely is selling to people who either already have one of the other consoles, so the comparative price difference doesn't matter so much, or to casuals who weren't really interested in the PS4 or Xbox so far. The Switch is suitably different to be appraised on its own merits irrespective of the competition. And in that situation I predict a lot of people don't consider it that expensive.
It's not a widespread problem. The majority of people really aren't having any hardware problems at all. The Joycon and dock problems are real and not trivial, but it's still only a minority of owners that are affected.
Diprosalic
Banned
GameFreak has a pretty good track record of not giving a shit.