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Mass Effect: Andromeda | Review Thread (READ MOD POST)

Asd202

Member
The game is horrible. Just look what did guy had to go trough. He even went back to work.

User review:

I¨m a big fan of ME1 and 2 so I called in sick for work and prepared to spend the whole week playing ME: Andromeda. Never mind that, a few hours in and already felt sorely disappointed. Called my boss and said it must have been food poisoning and I already feel better. He is a gamer too and knew immediately what was up and laughed his ass off at me for looking forward to this "mess".

lmao
 

Heshinsi

"playing" dumb? unpossible
Debatable. According to 4players MEA is better than ME3 at least. So, now what?
For me it absolutely is. My problems with ME3 had become an avalanche by the time I got to the end, that the ending was more like a shit cherry placed on top of a mountain of illogical decisions.

MEA gives me actual in depth crafting of weapons and armour; an actual loot system; deep character skill customisation options; side quests that don't have me scanning planets, right after I've eavesdropped on random NPCs talking (I hated this the most from ME3); so far it doesn't have me working towards something and then just yank the carpet from underneath me (galactic readiness, what was the point of this again?); and I'm pretty sure whatever the ending turns out to be, it will never top ME3's stupid, and illogical ending.

MEA has its problems, but to me at least, I like it a lot better than ME3. Oh and I was one of the people laughing my head of in the prerelease animation threads. As far as problems go, in 18hrs I've had three instances of colour issues, one instance where the enemy were floating in the air, one instance were remenant baddies were under the structures but still able to shoot me (I couldn't shoot them until started popping up one at a time), and finally last night, my first game freeze. Not perfect, but spread over 18hrs, that isn't bad. I tend to have far more freezes and crashes playing Total War, so I'm prepared lol.
 
Did any reviewers put a significant focus on multiplayer? I loved ME3's multiplayer, and MEA's looks pretty darn similar. Not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing (too similar, perhaps?).
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
It might eventually happen, it's barely in the green: Only 1% less and it's over. Also look at that user score. I fear BioWare will soon be disbanded by EA... -The sad part is, after ME:A only a few people would mourn their demise.

Sales are what counts to EA: and I'm sure the game will still sell pretty fine.

The rumors of BioWare's demise are greatly exaggerated - plenty of people are finding the game great, just as many as who are finding it bad.

It's pretty much split down the middle.

Did any reviewers put a significant focus on multiplayer? I loved ME3's multiplayer, and MEA's looks pretty darn similar. Not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing (too similar, perhaps?).

Hardly any have even mentioned it....which is so weird to me, since it's an integral part of the game that they have obviously put a LOT of effort into (it's like a more polished, faster, more fun ME3MP). Boggles my mind how it's being ignored in most part.

For what it's worth, if I was reviewing the game now with 30 hours of SP under my belt, i'd give it an 8/10, but if I include my 10 hours of MP, then I give it a solid 8.5/10.
 

Iceternal

Member
Sales are what counts to EA: and I'm sure the game will still sell pretty fine.

The rumors of BioWare's demise are greatly exaggerated - plenty of people are finding the game great, just as many as who are finding it bad.

It's pretty much split down the middle.

Which is incredibly lame for such a licence.
 
I don't think the point being made is about the score.

The point is, what good comes from wishing for games/studios to be bad or perform poorly?

How much the metacritic changes doesn't matter. I can't grasp, in what world, does wishing bad on others help anyone? What does anyone gain from that?

Schadenfreude, mostly, because I'm still pissed about Mass Effect 3's ending.

It's now at 74(with 39 critics) if anyone cares.

There is a God.
 
How do we know how a "normal" consumer is defined and what is the measure that defines them?
A normal consumer uses the internet for information or not?

We don't which is why I was asking. I define "normal" as someone who doesn't consume games media much. At least in my personal experience most people know the big franchises and more or less go by word of mouth or a quick Google search which generally leads to IGN/Gamespot. I could be entirely wrong, but that's how I see it around me.

Obviously GAF is an outlier.

On topic: I'm enjoying ME:A way more than I thought I would after reading reviews. Sure it isn't perfect, but I'm having fun. The story isn't the best but I do want to see the ending and how I am sure it's going to be a cliff hanger.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
Which is incredibly lame for such a licence.

I've honestly enjoyed my first 30 hours more than my first 30 hours in ME3 - not as much as ME1 or ME2 though.

It has so many good things going for it, and sure there are plenty of problems, but none of them (except the odd rubberbanding, that is really annoying) have detracted from my experience yet.

It's a very different game to ME2/ME3, and I think that's hurting it big time in reviews: feels more like ME1 but with a much lighter tone, not sure if the cosmos was ready for that.
 

goonie

Member
If it sells well, the mixed reviews could be a blessing for a potential sequel, right?

I'm loving my time with it so far
 
Did any reviewers put a significant focus on multiplayer? I loved ME3's multiplayer, and MEA's looks pretty darn similar. Not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing (too similar, perhaps?).

It's great. Probably the best thing about this game. The soft cover system this game has is weird but you get used to it pretty quickly. It's difficult but that's kind of what you want from a good horde mode. It at least doesn't do the Gears 4 thing where it feels very skewed towards making you spend money on microtransactions.

If it sells well, the mixed reviews could be a blessing for a potential sequel, right? I'm loving my time with it so far

There will most definitely be a sequel which is interesting to think about what that game will be. I haven't beaten Andromeda yet but it seems like they could hit the soft reset button again if they wanted to (jump head hundreds of years or something).
 
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Not sure we'll get a sequel for a long time. Bioware Montreal will probably get shut down, Dragon Age is still going strong, and if the main studio's new IP does well, I can't seeing them going back to make a new Mass Effect instead of New IP 2. Assuming they don't already have like a trilogy planned for the new IP.

After playing Andromeda, it's clear they're planning a sequel -- just a question of whether it gets made. If the core mainstream fanbase comes in numbers similar to the original games' sales, I assume they'll do another.
 
It's great. Probably the best thing about this game. The soft cover system this game has is weird but you get used to it pretty quickly. It's difficult but that's kind of what you want from a good horde mode. It at least doesn't do the Gears 4 thing where it feels very skewed towards making you spend money on microtransactions.

The thing I hate about Gears' Horde mode is how long it takes to do. A full run through all 50 waves takes forever, and sometimes I just don't want to devote that much time to the game. I assume MEA's multiplayer is much like ME3's, in that matches last on average around 30 minutes to an hour? At least that's how I recall ME3's multiplayer, but it's been years since I played it.
 

Lamptramp

Member
That was pretty funny.

He says its maybe a 7, but he's not sure. But it's not better than Breath of the Wild.. so probably wont get a 7..

Yeah a good rambly video, its not all like the first 90 seconds :)

Apologies all I hadn't watched it so no chance for a brief synopsis, some quick points...

- First impressions only
- Jim hasn't really kept up with the games since the first
- Feels very similar to the first
- Certainly seen a fair share of roughness in animations etc
- visually "dated"

It's great. Probably the best thing about this game. The soft cover system this game has is weird but you get used to it pretty quickly. It's difficult but that's kind of what you want from a good horde mode. It at least doesn't do the Gears 4 thing where it feels very skewed towards making you spend money on microtransactions.

I reckon this may the the only Bioware game I've ever picked up for the MP above the SP, from what little I've seen it looks OK.
 
The game is horrible. Just look what did guy had to go trough. He even went back to work.

User review:

I¨m a big fan of ME1 and 2 so I called in sick for work and prepared to spend the whole week playing ME: Andromeda. Never mind that, a few hours in and already felt sorely disappointed. Called my boss and said it must have been food poisoning and I already feel better. He is a gamer too and knew immediately what was up and laughed his ass off at me for looking forward to this "mess".
I'm cackling.
 
The game is horrible. Just look what did guy had to go trough. He even went back to work.

User review:

I¨m a big fan of ME1 and 2 so I called in sick for work and prepared to spend the whole week playing ME: Andromeda. Never mind that, a few hours in and already felt sorely disappointed. Called my boss and said it must have been food poisoning and I already feel better. He is a gamer too and knew immediately what was up and laughed his ass off at me for looking forward to this "mess".

I don't know what's funnier... the excuse or the fact his boss knew Andromeda wouldn't be good.
 

Staf

Member
I wonder what it's going to be like graphically going straight from Horizon Zero Dawn to Mass Effect Andromeda once I finish the former.

That's what i've done. It's not pretty. Graphically they both looks good. But once the human characters starts talking or trying to emote in Andromeda it loses me. It's really hard to focus on what they are actually saying because you can't shake the feeling that something is off with their face. I've tried both creating my own character and the default female.

I'm in it for the story and characters with little interest in the combat so i'm thinking of shelving it for the time being. And i've only played about 10 minutes of the opening, multiple time though...

Too be fair, i might be oversensitive to this though...
 

Slaythe

Member
You are not over sensitive.

Games like ff12, silent hill, KH had incredible emotion in their animations. On ps2.

Outside of Bethesda, we have come to accept passable to great animations as the standard.

Even when they're not good, they are usually not off putting.

This ME is lifeless, it's not just rough, most of the times the characters look empty and stare at the wrong things.

It's really hard to not find it distracting. :/ it's a shame. Because it takes tension and gravity out of any scene and makes it hard to connect with the characters.

Edit : oh shit it fell back into the yellow... yikes.

I guess they will learn their lesson.
 

Freeman76

Member
You are not over sensitive.

Games like ff12, silent hill, KH had incredible emotion in their animations. On ps2.

Outside of Bethesda, we have come to accept passable to great animations as the standard.

Even when they're not good, they are usually not off putting.

This ME is lifeless, it's not just rough, most of the times the characters look empty and stare at the wrong things.

It's really hard to not find it distracting. :/ it's a shame. Because it takes tension and gravity out of any scene and makes it hard to connect with the characters.

Edit : oh shit it fell back into the yellow... yikes.

I guess they will learn their lesson.

After a couple of hours on the trial I played FF15, the difference even in that was huge.
 

Slaythe

Member
After a couple of hours on the trial I played FF15, the difference even in that was huge.

The random npc are pretty bad in FF15 but their properly animated cutscenes look fantastic.

Ff15's problem is inconsistency. But they definitely nailed the important scenes so it was a matter of priority...


Mass Effect has a few incredible scenes actually. About 3 in the whole game. Cora romance being one.
 
This qualifies as the flop of the generation now. There have been other games with high expectations that didn't deliver(Destiny, Quantum Break, No Man's Sky, Evolve, The Order 1886)...but none of them were established franchises with histories of excellence. Oh I forgot about Street Fighter V although they disappointed for very different reasons.
 

Staf

Member
This qualifies as the flop of the generation now. There have been other games with high expectations that didn't deliver(Destiny, Quantum Break, No Man's Sky, Evolve, The Order 1886)...but none of them were established franchises with histories of excellence. Oh I forgot about Street Fighter V although they disappointed for very different reasons.

I don't know man. I've only played about 1-2 hours of ME:A and i'm pretty underwhelmed but... No man's sky...
 
I don't know man. I've only played about 1-2 hours of ME:A and i'm pretty underwhelmed but... No man's sky...

I never thought No Man's Sky was going to be very good so maybe that's why I don't see it as much of a disappointment. Obviously it disappoint a lot of people though.
 

Random17

Member
This qualifies as the flop of the generation now. There have been other games with high expectations that didn't deliver(Destiny, Quantum Break, No Man's Sky, Evolve, The Order 1886)...but none of them were established franchises with histories of excellence. Oh I forgot about Street Fighter V although they disappointed for very different reasons.

No, not even close. It's an average game, not a bad one. Nothing will eclipse the disaster that was No Man's Sky in the eyes of most people.
 

Flipyap

Member
No, not even close. It's an average game, not a bad one. Nothing will eclipse the disaster that was No Man's Sky in the eyes of most people.
Oh yeah, it will. No Man's Sky is an unusual game, not a bad one.
If Andromeda existed in a vacuum, maybe it could have been considered average, but it's a greatly diminished version of a thing with an audience that has been passionate about that world for the last ten years. Seeing your favorite thing get this treatment doesn't compare to the disappointment of a brand new game not meeting your expectations.
Halo 4 was an "average," highly polished game. It was also a catastrophic failure as a Halo game which turned people away from their favorite series.

No Man's Sky being a smaller game also meant that Hello Games was able to afford to keep improving No Man's Sky, fixing what launched broken while adding loads of features which weren't even advertised (for free). That's simply not going to happen with Andromeda. It's too big for that.
 
More negative reviews will be coming for ME like the GB review since brad is having a hard time coming up with reasons to play this game even if you are a die hard mass effect fan.
 
More negative reviews will be coming for ME like the GB review since brad is having a hard time coming up with reasons to play this game even if you are a die hard mass effect fan.

Yup. Jeff did the first main quest part of Eos and was like "I think I might not play anymore Mass Effect Andromeda"

Not a good sign. I'm very curious if any of the stuff that Brad sounded like he was starting to be interested in, hooked him in a positive way. I'm not optimistic, but I guess we'll see.
 

Dargor

Member
Well, at least I can cross a game from my to buy list for now.

There are too many games coming out and so very little money to buy them all that this came out as a pleasant surprise for my wallet.

and lets not even talk about time, or the lack of it, to be playing games :(
 

Freeman76

Member
Whether it was the A Team, B team or Z team Bioware must be concerned about this. Its their name on this and there is no getting away from the fact its a disaster compared with the rest of their games. No matter how apologist, fanboyist, loyal, or against AAA games or Bioware/EA any of us might be, there is no excuse for the animation, expressions, performance etc of this game.

The gameplay seems very good to me, but all those factors deter from the experience too much. It's hard to take anybody seriously in this game when it looks like they are about to go into cardiac arrest any moment. Shameful treatment of an established franchise and Bioware will rightfully lose a lot of their following as result.
 

jdstorm

Banned
This qualifies as the flop of the generation now. There have been other games with high expectations that didn't deliver(Destiny, Quantum Break, No Man's Sky, Evolve, The Order 1886)...but none of them were established franchises with histories of excellence. Oh I forgot about Street Fighter V although they disappointed for very different reasons.

No Battleborn?

FYI all of the games above are atleast origional and do 1 thing extremely well. (Exploration:No Mans Sky, The Order 1886:pretty Graphics, Quantum Break: TV Show integration, Destiny:Gameplay, SFV:Gameplay, Evolve:Asynchronous Multiplayer)

Mass Effect is just an unpolished Mediocre game that laks ambition, Good Writing, performances ect. Its the Terminator Genesis of Mass Effect.
 
Jesus a 74 meta on PS4.
I would not have believed you a week ago if you told me that would be the score even with all the red flags pre-release.

Such a shame, and I know meta scores aren't everything, but it's failure to live up to the series illustrious pedigree is poor form.

No Battleborn?

FYI all of the games above are atleast origional and do 1 thing extremely well. (Exploration:No Mans Sky, The Order 1886:pretty Graphics, Quantum Break: TV Show integration, Destiny:Gameplay, SFV:Gameplay, Evolve:Asynchronous Multiplayer)

Mass Effect is just an unpolished Mediocre game that laks ambition, Good Writing, performances ect. Its the Terminator Genesis of Mass Effect.

Feels like Bioware created this game in a vacuum ignoring all the advancements other RPG's have made in narrative, creativity and technology during the last 5 years.

I'm so intrigued to know if this is a blip or their new Destiny-like RPG will be a return to their previous reception standards.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
I bought Andromeda and played it for a few hours and it doesn't seem to be the turd some make it out to be. But I also can't say its an amazing game. ME1 and 2 I couldn't stop playing to see where it went but I don't really have that desire here just yet. The characters, bad guys and initial plot aren't really interesting to me yet. Its just there.

ME:A is certainly stuck in the past. The animations, dialogues and writing aren't a step above last-gen, instead they're well below the likes of Horizon, Witcher etc. The bar has been raised. The way default Ryder speaks with and looks at other people is jarring, its hard to take seriously. I think even the original trilogy did this better.

The gameplay is improved because there is auto cover and you can jump which means its level design has more layers. But the team commands are gone and the encounter design is just about sudden enemy waves so far.

I don't think its a bad game though, just one that feels dated and not better than the original trilogy.
 
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