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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread

For those of us who are interested in Loki, how would you prefer him to play? Back when someone asked Niitsuma about him, he wondered how Loki would be designed in a fighting game.

I'm honestly not sure. I'd prefer him to be an annoying zoner type that can inflict all types of status ailments. He'd also be able to summon clones to create even more confusion.
 

Weiss

Banned
For those of us who are interested in Loki, how would you prefer him to play? Back when someone asked Niitsuma about him, he wondered how Loki would be designed in a fighting game.

I'm honestly not sure. I'd prefer him to be an annoying zoner type that can inflict all types of status ailments. He'd also be able to summon clones to create even more confusion.

Zoner with magic abilities, illusion clones, and a teleport.
 
I could see Loki duplicating himself in some moves, maybe having a bunch of counter moves where he baits the opponent into attacking him only for them to receive a nasty surprise. Loki is a trickster and I feel a moveset that wouldn't take advantage of that sorta a missed opportunity.
He'd probably have a jamming bomb-style move where he flips the opponents controls,
an ice spell, a mind control spell, a bunch of daggers, maybe a poison spell, maybe he would even summon a frost giant or other creature to assist him and maybe his level 3 would involve the Destroyer Armor

Should he have an MCU Scepter or no MCU Scepter? What do you think?
 
I could see Loki duplicating himself in some moves, maybe having a bunch of counter moves where he baits the opponent into attacking him only for them to receive a nasty surprise. Loki is a trickster and I feel a moveset that wouldn't take advantage of that sorta a missed opportunity.
He'd probably have a jamming bomb-style move where he flips the opponents controls,
an ice spell, a mind control spell, a bunch of daggers, maybe a poison spell, maybe he would even summon a frost giant or other creature to assist him and maybe his level 3 would involve the Destroyer Armor

Should he have an MCU Scepter or no MCU Scepter? What do you think?

Rather see him with Gungnir tbh, but regardless I think Loki and "long pointy tipped stafflike object" go hand in hand.
 

Dahbomb

Member
The reason why they are saving it until E3 because they want to combine the re-reveal with the DMC5 release and the new Dante.

Because they want Dante to be within the top 10 characters showcased first to get the hype rolling. It's hard for any character or franchise to meet Megaman, Ryu and Iron Man... but Capcom is going to go for the one two punch of DMC5 and Dante in Marvel Infinite to launch the hype into the stratosphere.

It will be god damn glorious. DMC fans will finally get to eat.. and we have been famished for too long. Hell screw just DMC fans... true fans of hardcore stylish action games get to eat, none of this half measure "action RPG" stuff. All in action, that's how I like it. Keep the theory crafting and stat crunching in Path of Exile.
 
For those of us who are interested in Loki, how would you prefer him to play? Back when someone asked Niitsuma about him, he wondered how Loki would be designed in a fighting game.

I'm honestly not sure. I'd prefer him to be an annoying zoner type that can inflict all types of status ailments. He'd also be able to summon clones to create even more confusion.

Not interested in Loki but I'd like them to do the classic "shadows" type thing activated with a meter. Every hit does three or something. At the simplest that is. I think we can do better than that these days though.
 

J-Tier

Member
Should he have an MCU Scepter or no MCU Scepter? What do you think?

Not necessarily MCU, but I do think he should wield a scepter or ideally his spear (usually Odin's Gungnir).

He should definitely have some kind of doppelganger spell where he summons copies of himself to do multiple attacks mid combo kinda like Naruto.

He also should have a few ice abilities to reference his frost giant origins, maybe a few ice projectiles or a freeze move.

He could also debuff (curse) or hypnotize opponents. Hypnosis could be like the "zombie-walk" abilities seen in Mortal Kombat X or Injustice. The debuff could be slow, take more damage etc.

He could transform into various animals or do the whole "transform into a murder of crows" trope to teleport or attack.

Do any set of illusions you could imagine for Mysterio.

Enchant inanimate objects and bring them to life--living tables, chairs, cars, etc.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
The reason why they are saving it until E3 because they want to combine the re-reveal with the DMC5 release and the new Dante.

Because they want Dante to be within the top 10 characters showcased first to get the hype rolling. It's hard for any character or franchise to meet Megaman, Ryu and Iron Man... but Capcom is going to go for the one two punch of DMC5 and Dante in Marvel Infinite to launch the hype into the stratosphere.

It will be god damn glorious. DMC fans will finally get to eat.. and we have been famished for too long. Hell screw just DMC fans... true fans of hardcore stylish action games get to eat, none of this half measure "action RPG" stuff. All in action, that's how I like it. Keep the theory crafting and stat crunching in Path of Exile.

Stylish action fans had bayonetta 2 though. Y'all haven't been hungry that long.
 
Stylish action fans had bayonetta 2 though. Y'all haven't been hungry that long.
When it comes to combat systems, Bayonetta 2 is not on the same league than DMC4.

In fgc terms, Bayonetta 2 is Divekick (Easy game to pick & play, really solid game but little to no depth / place for creativity), while Devil May Cry is a VS game or Guilty Gear (aka you have an idea, you can make it work, even if the execution is really hard).

Both are great IPs, but they're different.
 
Not necessarily MCU, but I do think he should wield a scepter or ideally his spear (usually Odin's Gungnir).

He should definitely have some kind of doppelganger spell where he summons copies of himself to do multiple attacks mid combo kinda like Naruto.

He also should have a few ice abilities to reference his frost giant origins, maybe a few ice projectiles or a freeze move.

He could also debuff (curse) or hypnotize opponents. Hypnosis could be like the "zombie-walk" abilities seen in Mortal Kombat X or Injustice. The debuff could be slow, take more damage etc.

He could transform into various animals or do the whole "transform into a murder of crows" trope to teleport or attack.

Do any set of illusions you could imagine for Mysterio.

Enchant inanimate objects and bring them to life--living tables, chairs, cars, etc.

All of that sounds good.

An annoying Loki that's quite effective in what he does is all I want to see. In theory, he seems like the type of character that could translate well in a fighting game.
 

PSqueak

Banned
A talking Duck from space with a duck mech.

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There really is no contest.

I think if they give us Howard, it will be without his mech, i doubt they want to put another "mech riding" character if tron makes it in, then again, with Megaman X confirmed in and Zero and Sigma heavily hinted, it's likely they could remove Tron to not over saturate with megaman Reps.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Does Howard the Duck even have a mech in the comics?

I have no idea, but supposedly Marvel is very very anal about portrayal of their characters in videogames, so im assuming if it made it to CoC, it must be loosely based on something from the comic.

They're not allowed to just make shit up, supposedly.

Iron Man's proton Cannon in MVC is, for example, based on a weapon that appeared for ONE PANEL prior to the release of Marvel Super Heroes.
 

BadWolf

Member
When it comes to combat systems, Bayonetta 2 is not on the same league than DMC4.

In fgc terms, Bayonetta 2 is Divekick (Easy game to pick & play, really solid game but little to no depth / place for creativity), while Devil May Cry is a VS game or Guilty Gear (aka you have an idea, you can make it work, even if the execution is really hard).

Both are great IPs, but they're different.

Haven't played it since it's on WiiU but based on impressions from the other thread (and footage) it seems like Bayo2 has less depth than Bayo1, so really no point even mentioning it in the same sentence as DMC4.
 

TreIII

Member
Stylish action fans had bayonetta 2 though. Y'all haven't been hungry that long.

Bayonetta 2, W101 and Transformers Devastation were all great stuff, don't get me wrong, especially that last one. Saur has my Forge of Solus Prime when it comes to how Devastation's battle engine easily makes Bayo2's look like tiddlywinks.

But it really just hasn't been the same without Dante, or rather, Itsuno himself. For someone like him and his crew to have been out of the stylish action arena for almost a decade, yet still delivered the likes of Dragon's Dogma in the meanwhile? I'm at the point where I'm fully expecting that they're going to surprise us, and push this genre forward in a way it hasn't been in a long time.

When even Bayo1+2 can be described as games that still do a lot to chase after conventions that date back to DMC3, or even DMC1, in some cases, it's a sign that this genre needs re-invigoration in the worst way.
 

Weiss

Banned
Watching some Tatsunoko and I'm really hoping Universal Air Dashes make a comeback. So good, and it'd make characters like Arthur into total beasts.

Man I hope Arthur comes back.
 
Watching some Tatsunoko and I'm really hoping Universal Air Dashes make a comeback. So good, and it'd make characters like Arthur into total beasts.

Man I hope Arthur comes back.

Yeah, Universal Air Dashing gave us the best version of Ryu in a Vs. game to date. I remember MVC3 having it in during it's first few public showings, but removed it to encourage character diversity, which I kinda understand.

Arthur with an air dash would be rad as fuck though, yeah.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Is DMC5 really a thing, or is Dahbomb just that hopeful?
Not confirmed, but highly likely since one of Capcom's financial briefings mentioned that they have plans for the Devil May Cry franchise & us hearing about Itsuno's game being revealed this year.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
A DMC is getting revealed. Dunno if it'll have a 5 attached though.

That's like three years ago man.

Bayonetta 2, W101 and Transformers Devastation were all great stuff, don't get me wrong, especially that last one. Saur has my Forge of Solus Prime when it comes to how Devastation's battle engine easily makes Bayo2's look like tiddlywinks.

But it really just hasn't been the same without Dante, or rather, Itsuno himself. For someone like him and his crew to have been out of the stylish action arena for almost a decade, yet still delivered the likes of Dragon's Dogma in the meanwhile? I'm at the point where I'm fully expecting that they're going to surprise us, and push this genre forward in a way it hasn't been in a long time.

When even Bayo1+2 can be described as games that still do a lot to chase after conventions that date back to DMC3, or even DMC1, in some cases, it's a sign that this genre needs re-invigoration in the worst way.

When it comes to combat systems, Bayonetta 2 is not on the same league than DMC4.

In fgc terms, Bayonetta 2 is Divekick (Easy game to pick & play, really solid game but little to no depth / place for creativity), while Devil May Cry is a VS game or Guilty Gear (aka you have an idea, you can make it work, even if the execution is really hard).

Both are great IPs, but they're different.

I guess I can understand that all somewhat
 
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?

Marvel:
Daredevil
Punisher
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Elektra
Star-Lord
Winter Soldier
Taskmaster
Vision
Green Goblin
Doctor Octopus
Venom
Ant-Man
Wasp
Ms. Marvel
Gamora

Capcom:
Akuma
Viewtiful Joe
Bison
Wesker
Arthur
Frank West
Phoenix Wright
Amaterasu
Captain Commando
Batsu
Edward Falcon
Hayato
Strider
Zero
Haggar
Hsien Ko


I am bored and just need a reason to talk about Infinite.
 

J-Tier

Member
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?
I'm bored too. So might as well.

Marvel:
Daredevil 80%, Punisher 60%, Luke Cage 60%, Iron Fist 80%, Elektra 50%, Star-Lord 80%, Winter Soldier 30%, Taskmaster 50%, Vision 70%, Green Goblin 10%, Doctor Octopus 10%, Venom 25%, Ant-Man 70%, Wasp 50%, Ms. Marvel 80%, Gamora 50%

Capcom:
Akuma 99.9%, Viewtiful Joe 70%, Bison 40%, Wesker 80%, Arthur 60%, Frank West 60%, Phoenix Wright 70%, Amaterasu 60%, Captain Commando 40%, Batsu 30%, Edward Falcon 20%, Hayato 2%, Strider 70%, Zero 80%, Haggar 60%, Hsien-Ko 30%
 

Malrend

Member
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?

Marvel:
Daredevil - 75%
Punisher - 50%
Luke Cage - 75%
Iron Fist - 75%
Elektra - 50%
Star-Lord - 80%
Winter Soldier - 80%
Taskmaster - 60%
Vision - 80%
Green Goblin - 15%
Doctor Octopus - 15%
Venom - 30%
Ant-Man - 80%
Wasp - 30%
Ms. Marvel - 50%
Gamora - 80%

Capcom:
Akuma - 95%
Viewtiful Joe - 50%
Bison - 50%
Wesker - 65%
Arthur - 75%
Frank West - 75%
Phoenix Wright - 90%
Amaterasu - 50%
Captain Commando - 30%
Batsu - 20%
Edward Falcon - 15%
Hayato - 20%
Strider - 65%
Zero - 70%
Haggar - 50%
Hsien Ko - 40%

These are obviously based on my own perception of which series and characters are currently popular.
They might be somewhat skewed since I only have experience with UMVC3.
 

Dahbomb

Member
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?

Marvel:
Daredevil -
Punisher
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Elektra
Star-Lord
Winter Soldier
Taskmaster
Vision
Green Goblin
Doctor Octopus
Venom
Ant-Man
Wasp
Ms. Marvel
Gamora

Capcom:
Akuma
Viewtiful Joe
Bison
Wesker
Arthur
Frank West
Phoenix Wright
Amaterasu
Captain Commando
Batsu
Edward Falcon
Hayato
Strider
Zero
Haggar
Hsien Ko


I am bored and just need a reason to talk about Infinite.
I will just say , Never, Poor, Average, Good, Great, Guaranteed and you can assign percentages to them.


Marvel:
Daredevil - Good to Great
Punisher - Good to Great
Luke Cage - Average to Good
Iron Fist - Good to Great
Elektra - Average
Star-Lord - Great
Winter Soldier - Average
Taskmaster - Poor to Average
Vision - Average
Green Goblin - Average
Doctor Octopus - Average
Venom - Poor
Ant-Man - Good
Wasp - Average
Ms. Marvel - Average
Gamora - Average

Capcom:
Akuma - Guaranteed
Viewtiful Joe - Good
Bison - Poor
Wesker - Guaranteed or your god damn money back
Arthur - Average to Good
Frank West - Great (or some DR character that plays like him)
Phoenix Wright- Great to Guaranteed
Amaterasu - Good
Captain Commando - Average to Good
Batsu - Poor to Average
Edward Falcon - Poor to Average
Hayato - Poor
Strider - Guaranteed
Zero - Good
Haggar - Good to Great
Hsien Ko - Poor

Bonus:
Dante - Guaranteed or I will delete my GAF account.
Regina - Never to Poor



I can explain all of these more in depth. Any character that was in Marvel 3 has at least some chance to make it back because they can just copy/paste if they have to. Hsien Ko is the only one I would rate as Poor.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?

Marvel:
Daredevil
Punisher
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Elektra
Star-Lord
Winter Soldier
Taskmaster
Vision
Green Goblin
Doctor Octopus
Venom
Ant-Man
Wasp
Ms. Marvel
Gamora

Capcom:
Akuma
Viewtiful Joe
Bison
Wesker
Arthur
Frank West
Phoenix Wright
Amaterasu
Captain Commando
Batsu
Edward Falcon
Hayato
Strider
Zero
Haggar
Hsien Ko


I am bored and just need a reason to talk about Infinite.

Marvel
  • Daredevil: 80%
  • Punisher: 60%
  • Luke Cage: 50%
  • Iron Fist: 60%
  • Elektra: 40%
  • Star-Lord: 12% 95%
  • Winter Soldier: 75%
  • Taskmaster: 45%
  • Vision: 50%
  • Green Goblin: 50%
  • Doctor Octopus: 55%
  • Venom: 50%
  • Ant-Man: 95%
  • Wasp: 50%
  • Ms. Marvel: 95%
  • Gamora: 50%

Capcom
  • Akuma: 100%
  • Viewtiful Joe: 80%
  • M. Bison: 20%
  • Wesker: 90%
  • Arthur: 90%
  • Frank West: 95%
  • Phoenix Wright: 95%
  • Amaterasu: 90%
  • Captain Commando: 55%
  • Batsu: 50%
  • Edward Falcon: 50%
  • Hayato: 30%
  • Strider: 100%
  • Zero: 90%
  • Haggar: 85%
  • Hsien-Ko: 60%
 

Dahbomb

Member
Neoxon put heavy weight on Capcom characters that were in Marvel 3 but not on Marvel characters in Marvel 3.

I feel like if X men characters are going to get short listed then quite a few of the Marvel characters in Marvel 3 can return because of the copy/pasta effect. They did good on most of them so they don't have to do much to bring them back.
 

PSqueak

Banned
If you had to put into % the chances of these characters appearing, where would it be?

Marvel:
Daredevil (20%)
Punisher (10%)
Luke Cage (40%)
Iron Fist (60%)
Elektra (10%)
Star-Lord (90%)
Winter Soldier (60%)
Taskmaster (50%)
Vision (70%)
Green Goblin (30%)
Doctor Octopus (10%)
Venom (40%)
Ant-Man (90%)
Wasp (70%)
Ms. Marvel (40%)
Gamora (70%)

Capcom:
Akuma (70%)
Viewtiful Joe (70%)
Bison (20%)
Wesker (70%)
Arthur (60%)
Frank West (90%)
Phoenix Wright (70%)
Amaterasu (70%)
Captain Commando (50%)
Batsu (20%)
Edward Falcon (10%)
Hayato (0%)
Strider (80%)
Zero (99%)
Haggar (50%)
Hsien Ko (50%)


I am bored and just need a reason to talk about Infinite.

I give people who appeared in UMVC3 a minimum of 50% for portability and popularity, and more than 50% for anybody from the MCU movies.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Why 40% for Ms. Marvel? She's one of Marvel's biggest new characters (alongside Miles).

Because im betting marvel will be more willing to fill spots with MCU characters despite her popularity. But because i think she's popular that's why i think she has a better chance than long time icons like Punisher or Daredevil.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Neoxon put heavy weight on Capcom characters that were in Marvel 3 but not on Marvel characters in Marvel 3.

I feel like if X men characters are going to get short listed then quite a few of the Marvel characters in Marvel 3 can return because of the copy/pasta effect. They did good on most of them so they don't have to do much to bring them back.
But at the same time, Marvel may want to prioritize characters like Black Panther, Star-Lord, Ms. Marvel, & Daredevil who've become insanely popular since (U)MvC3 was a thing over veterans in UMvC3 who may not be as high of a priority right now (like, sadly, Taskmaster & She-Hulk).
 
Just give it to me straight, what are the chances of She-Hulk making it back?

I love her character and I'm probably gonna play MvC:I more than I ever played MvC3/UmvC3.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Just give it to me straight, what are the chances of She-Hulk making it back?

I love her character.
She's yet to be introduced in the MCU & she isn't as popular as the new Ms. Marvel in the comics, so she may not be a top priority. But at the same time, she would be easy to bring back since Jen was in (U)MvC3.
 

Sesha

Member
She-Hulk frequently has a solo, including one right now, and is in most other Marvel games. I think she has a good chance of returning.
 
Interesting replies. Pretty balanced.

I wasn't really much of a Star-Lord fan (didn't dislike him, just didn't pay much attention to him), but after learning more about him, I want him in now.

Btw, a fake leaker has returned:

I'm back again and if you didn't read my old topic do yourself the solid and read it before this one.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/202465-marvel-vs-capcom-infinite/74995773

With that said I got some new information. Deny it if you want. Matters not to me.
While this is not a mass of information. I'll go right in.

First, and I feel like it's fairly obvious at this point, MvCI is still going dark until E3.
Then will be "reintroduced" there with revamped visuals in the art direction to some extent.
It might have also been a conscious decision to wait until E3 because I heard that they may be using X-Men characters in the next cinematic trailer and reveals on (but they're supposedly going to reveal quite a few characters across both Marvel and Capcom's sides throughout the summer at E3, EVO, and SDCC).
Though, if that X-Men thing is in fact happening in the summer and they are in the base roster for sure now, it might be held off until EVO or SDCC for that bombshell to be dropped, instead of at E3 because of the FGC's connection with X-Men characters in MvC games.

If you ask me "why don't you know for sure if X-Men are in the base roster?"
Because that's a secret being kept quite close to the heart.
And Capcom outsources cinematic trailers. As well as some characters.
Mega Man X and Hunter (including Rathalos) were done by a Malaysian team for instance.
Capcom outsourced to the same team for SFV.
I'm not sure if the X-Men are being done by them, in-house, or independent modelers.
They're trying real hard to keep this under wraps, but it's too big for them to contain for obvious reasons.

And while it's not too much I suppose.
I can confirm Dante and Frank West.
Not much of a surprise there, but you can rest easy or whatever now if you were worried about them for some reason.

Not that all of this can't be true, but....
 
She's yet to be introduced in the MCU & she isn't as popular as the new Ms. Marvel in the comics, so she may not be a top priority. But at the same time, she would be easy to bring back since Jen was in (U)MvC3.

She-Hulk frequently has a solo, including one right now, and is in most other Marvel games. I think she has a good chance of returning.

YESS!!

I don't even know why but I've just always enjoyed playing with her in MvC3 when I usually don't even like big body characters.
 
Remember, Universal has the Hulk solo movie rights, so I wouldn't expect a She-Hulk solo film for the time being.

Wow so the Hulk movie rights, solo or otherwise, include She-Hulk automatically? She's not her own character?

Does that also work with Sony and Spider-woman or Spider-Gwen?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Wow so the Hulk movie rights, solo or otherwise, include She-Hulk automatically? She's not her own character?

Does that also work with Sony and Spider-woman or Spider-Gwen?
Spider-Woman is a bit of a mystery, but I think Marvel has her. As for Spider-Gwen, I'm pretty sure she's with Sony.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Spider-Woman is a bit of a mystery, but I think Marvel has her. As for Spider-Gwen, I'm pretty sure she's with Sony.
This really makes no god damn sense.

SMFH at comic book licensing. This is why Capcom needed to make a Capcom All Stars instead. I already know this licensing BS is going to end up biting Marvel Infinite in the ass one day.
 
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