Obliterator
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From some reports indications it seems that both the UK and Australia are still solid markets for Xbox. Also Mexico.
But yeah mainland Europe and Asia are pretty much a total wasteland for Xbox One
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Microsoft FY2017 Q3 Earnings - Xbox Live MAU 52m (up 13%) Gaming revenue $1.928bn
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From some reports indications it seems that both the UK and Australia are still solid markets for Xbox. Also Mexico.
But yeah mainland Europe and Asia are pretty much a total wasteland for Xbox One
Oh, I just guessed. So 30 mil is a safe bet.
LordOcidax
Member
Close to 30 with luck.
hanspampel
Banned
so when Sony will report 3 million PS4 sold tomorrow they are down over 60%?
you know the difference between YoY and sequential comparisons
edit:
wow im sorry. i totally missed the YoY phrase in the topic titel
maybe a mod could change that
Obliterator
Member
Scorpio is going to be combined with Xbox One because its still an Xbox One. Sony does the exact same thing with Pro they don't break off Pro into its own reporting.
its really unreal
The Jackdog
Member
thats not how these reports work lol
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yeah, thats not a fair criticism at all when they specifically are saying its not a new generation and it plays Xbox One games and wont take games away from Xbox One.
Sony isnt giving us Pro only numbers and Nintendo didnt give us New 3DS numbers. They combine all sku's together, which is fine.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Does this mean xbox is dad?
I really don't follow sales figures and all that shit, but this looks fine?
I really don't follow sales figures and all that shit, but this looks fine?
therealbigrich
Member
It really is amazing
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Getting people spending money within their ecosystem pays dividends, which is why they've been on the assault as far as making their actual service really attractive for Xbox owners. Keep them locked in and spending billions yearly.
I've said it in the past but some people on GAF take the Ricky Bobby approach to their consoles, in that if it ain't first it's last when that's not how the business world works. If it were Pepsi would have been out of business decades ago.
I wonder how all the people who claimed things like "I bet Scorpio is Microsoft's last hurrah" are feeling right now.
Keep on wishin.
Not gonna lie, I'm spending more money on Microsoft than Sony almost entirely thanks to Backwards Compatibility. Microsoft just doesn't have the first-party lineup, as we all know, but they can coast on the 360 Gravy Train for a long time. I wonder how much Black Ops 2 is making for them.
Keep on wishin.
Not gonna lie, I'm spending more money on Microsoft than Sony almost entirely thanks to Backwards Compatibility. Microsoft just doesn't have the first-party lineup, as we all know, but they can coast on the 360 Gravy Train for a long time. I wonder how much Black Ops 2 is making for them.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
It really is something of wonder
So its almost a billion more then last Q. Which was the holiday's? Damn!
ethomaz
Banned
Last year at the same quarter Sony gaming revenue was ~$2.800bn... about $1bn more than MS this year that I won't call "not that far from"... let't see how much did Sony this year.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
To be fair, they open themselves up to that type of talk when they provide MAU numbers instead of profit numbers or at least hardware/software numbers.
But i agree its unlikely that they're going anywhere anytime soon.
hanspampel
Banned
expect them to grow further, with no loss making business anymore
more personal business OI is increasing every quarter thanks to no more phones being sold.
Surface, Bing and Gaming being more profitable (yes the unimportant Xbox Scorpio will even help here)
Azure margins are also getting better even with the huge money invested every quarter
LinkedIn will be included in the future
no more write downs in sight
hey Pepsi as a company is doing even better than Coca Cola
so maybe it's the perfect Sony and Microsoft analogy
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Not saying it will be the last but this article doesn't dispute that.
I think 360 BC is marginal for revenue since you don't need to rebuy stuff. Most of the games of the 360 era don't have strong service hooks. Most of the new revenue comes from monetizing whales on lootboxes or long tail services like FH3.
LinkedIn was included this Q. 700ish million
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Did they disclose how much Simplygon costs them?
hanspampel
Banned
yeah. i mean in the YoY growth for the next 3 quarter, as it was not included in the comparison quarter
700ish million now vs 0 last year quarter
900ish million now vs 0 last year quarter in the next quarter
etc...
nope
just this small press release back in january:
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/20...3d-everyone/#sm.000fc47pi13ppe18xgg2nb0ngqi0f
LordOcidax
Member
I am not saying is a bad thing... But every Microsoft system in the future is going to be counted​ as Xbox One then, because i dont think we are going to see a new Gen from Microsoft, only hardware upgrades like Scorpio.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
It's a new gen when games no longer support the XB1, that won't last forever.
In a Quarter. I honestly didn't know it was that high last Q. That's nuts.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Ya I read the press release I didn't know if they would include it as a write off
I mean I'd hope so! If not Sony would have major problems. Lol
LordOcidax
Member
Not intensive graphics games are going to be supported for a very long time. So it depends of the game not from the system itself. IMO.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah Xbox is still a very strong business even though they are being dominated by Sony in total volume and sales.
People sometimes forget that you don't have to have the first place console to still have a plenty healthy and thriving ecosystem
ethomaz
Banned
I believe the next console after Scorpio will be a new gen and it won't be called Xbox One... 2019/2020.
ethomaz
Banned
Yes... everything related to Xbox on these platforms.
JamesHolden
Banned
You'll notice Q1 drops every year vs. Q4, which is why YOY is important, and why YOUR comment is misleading.
Yep. But mobile is dead and we know PC is probably Minor.
AnthonypUK
Member
Also Revenue isn't everything, it is how much that revenue costs and the return you get for your investment.
KillerMan91
Member
It includes Minecraft though.
Of course it'll drop because last Q was Holiday season, which makes it more impressive on the $$ growth. Damn!
Ah! Gotcha.
hanspampel
Banned
and they forget, that even while the Ps4 is outselling XBox One 2:1 or even more,
Sonys gaming revenue is nowhere close to be 2 times as big as Microsofts
LordOcidax
Member
I think that Phil Spencer said something about this in the Project Scorpio event... They are going to follow​ the hardware upgrade route and maintain the ecosystem of the plafform. I think thats the future of the consoles and is a smart idea.
The profit margin in video games is notoriously low. It's unlikely for Xbox to get more than $1B in profit this year despite how high revenues are.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
It's not double but not far off from it either-
Last quarter-
MS gaming - 3.5B
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11074/microsoft-announces-q2-fy-2017-results
Sony gaming - 5.3B
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1340113