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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza

SkyOdin

Member
BTW, Launchpad, I would like your top scum and town reads. You are technically new, so I want to get a feel for your opinions.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
I don't have to, no. I've made my cases against people but it just gets ignored. I'm deep into IDGAF territory.

People might listen to you if you didn't turn around and throw personal insults at people who disagree with you. Like hey you're frustrated, sure, but you don't have to go around and ruin everyone else's enjoyment because of it.
 

Sophia

Member
Day 2 votes so far

blackbuzzard (1)
dr. worm 640
skyodin 708 (791)

swamped (3)
launchpadmcq 650
lifeline 657 (748)
isaacnukem 851 (855)
isaacnukem 855
lifeline 911

dr. worm (0)
palmer_v1 659 (778)

burbeting (1)
darryl 697

wherearemahdragonz (0)
lifeline 748 (911)

blargonaut (0)
palmer_v1 778 (1015)

palmer_v1 (0)
blargonaut 849 (1019)

isaacnukem (0)
hey_monkey 858 (910)

oreomunsta (1)
blackbuzzard 872

iaaacnukem (1)
wherearemahdragonz 885

acohrs (1)
hey_monkey 910

natiko (1)
acohrs 960

stanleypalmtree (1)
palmer_v1 1018

Majority is 10

Day 2 ends in:

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Lifeline

Member
Okay, someone who knows Lifeline better than I do:

Is the avoidance of real stuff in favor of tunnel vision LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH standard operating procedure for him? Because it feels so purposeful and constructed and I don't trust it and it makes me question a lot of things about the game but if it's LL being LL then it's a distraction and I can push it to the side until or unless it becomes an issue.

"avoidance of real stuff"

- It's not my fault, i'm the only one seeing this shit.

I asked this question like 3 times last day phase and no one gave a satisfactory answer:

For the people not believing my list, what do you think mafia has been doing this whole day phase?

Do you really think they decided that the best play was a last hour lynch bandwagon, just ignore this day and don't start throwing suspicious on towns to get a series of lynches lined up?

I'm giving you multiple bandwagon attempts that were made, obviously by mafia. I'm showing you coordination. Let's start taking out mafia, or give me a better reason of what mafia was doing this whole day phase?

Mafia team:
- Coasters
- Town leaders
- GF wanting to be investigated

Coasters: Dr. Worm, Darryl
Town Leaders: Dragonz (on day 1, on day 2 it seems mafia has switched her over to coasters)
Godfather; Swamped

Like is no one else seeing an obvious mafia team make up all voting and operating in a similar way in day 1.
 

SkyOdin

Member
*yawn* what a nice, long 4 day nap. Morning all, what'd I miss since last time?

...skims...

...you fucking idiots

I'm so mad at all of you, you're all getting sent to bed without supper, no pineapple pizza or non-pineapple pizza for any of you


vote: natiko

Why did you the the vote?

#!3#6666!!!#####

Fuck

Meant tie the*

By this logic sawneeks is also somebody to look at given that they voted and unvoted Sexyfish on D1

This was Sexyfish's most substantial post, I think this is what for them nightkilled

Think you're looking in the right place, something involving sexyfish got then nightkilled.

I'm wary of sawneeks, too good at playing scum IMO
These are all of the posts acohrs made this day phase, I believe. Anger at unspecified mistakes made by town, attempts to justify scum's choice in target, voting Natiko over the tie vote in a highly confused day end, followed by disapearing into the ether without following up his questions. A superficial attempt at town play and overall scummy behavior.

Vote: acohrs
 

Dr. Worm

Banned
Although I haven't been asked, I'll answer in the interest of transparency:

I'm leaning town on SkyOdin, hey_monkey, Blargonaut, Natiko, and WhereAreMahDragonz. I'm leaning scum on isaacnukem, oreomunsta, BlackBuzzard, and acohrs.
 

Natiko

Banned
"avoidance of real stuff"

- It's not my fault, i'm the only one seeing this shit.

I asked this question like 3 times last day phase and no one gave a satisfactory answer:



Mafia team:
- Coasters
- Town leaders
- GF wanting to be investigated

Coasters: Dr. Worm, Darryl
Town Leaders: Dragonz (on day 1, on day 2 it seems mafia has switched her over to coasters)
Godfather; Swamped

Like is no one else seeing an obvious mafia team make up all voting and operating in a similar way in day 1.
There is no one way to play scum. I've been in games where the entire scum team was inactive and barely playing. I've been in games where most of the scum team was quite active and contributing without actually being town leaders. You also need to ease up on the jumping to unfounded conclusions. Case in point - what reason do you have to believe there's a godfather in this game? Especially prior to my claim. Most games I've been in have not had that role at all. Trying to read someone as a role you have no clue exists in the game is just weird. It makes it a lot harder to take your posts seriously. If you want people to pay attention then frame your points in a believable manner.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Another thing that's crossed my mind. I haven't played with Palmer in awhile but if his play style is overly similar to the last game, he could be trying to stay consistent between games so you think that's just how he plays, while his role may be totally different. Was he town last time?

I literally posted about exactly this a while back. I was town every other time. I've never had a problem winning games as scum or neutral so why the fuck would I risk anything on a D1 gambit when I know how badly town has been playing anyway?

Okay, someone who knows Lifeline better than I do:

Is the avoidance of real stuff in favor of tunnel vision LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH standard operating procedure for him? Because it feels so purposeful and constructed and I don't trust it and it makes me question a lot of things about the game but if it's LL being LL then it's a distraction and I can push it to the side until or unless it becomes an issue.

I don't know him from anywhere but this game. I have the same issue as you. I don't see the Swamped logic unless BB is scum, and I'd much rather vote him first.

Palmer was town last game, but I don't recall him being this stand-offish. I know he was frustrated at town play after Anime Mafia, but this feels over-the-top enough to be forced.

yeah, scum/neutral would totally risk being modkilled by Sophia. That makes sense.

People might listen to you if you didn't turn around and throw personal insults at people who disagree with you. Like hey you're frustrated, sure, but you don't have to go around and ruin everyone else's enjoyment because of it.

I was fairly nice D1, I think, and look where that got me.
 
There is no one way to play scum. I've been in games where the entire scum team was inactive and barely playing. I've been in games where most of the scum team was quite active and contributing without actually being town leaders. You also need to ease up on the jumping to unfounded conclusions. Case in point - what reason do you have to believe there's a godfather in this game? Especially prior to my claim. Most games I've been in have not had that role at all. Trying to read someone as a role you have no clue exists in the game is just weird. It makes it a lot harder to take your posts seriously. If you want people to pay attention then frame your points in a believable manner.

Alllllll of this. Twice. To infinity.

Yes, LL, you've noticed some connections. But you're hammering the same flimsy connections as 100% absolute THIS early and it's just not, man. And if anyone doesn't agree, you say they're defending your targets. Meantime you got targeted with something funky AND you misread your role or something but hey! Not important, right? Ignore all questions about that.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I'm already confirmed town, how are any of those questions important.

Going after scum is a much better use of time.

Are you though? You seem awfully focused on this godfather stuff when we've had very little reason to suspect one so far.

To everyone:

What if Lifeline was the Godfather who got lucky with whatever ability targeted them? A normal cop would see they're town, so why wouldn't a weird public cop(or douser or poisoner) end up showing us the same result?

It's a stretch, for sure, but it's possible. Especially in the face of their caginess about any other info they can provide us. LL might already now they're poisoned, and this is scum taking a chance at eliminating Swamped who maybe gave them trouble for one reason or another.
 
It's possible, I guess. Based on fixation with the GF. But the demanding obsession with scum team he was sure he had was also his MO in Arkham. So it would maybe be really lucky if it went down as you just guessed, Palmer.
 
Palmer was town last game, but I don't recall him being this stand-offish. I know he was frustrated at town play after Anime Mafia, but this feels over-the-top enough to be forced.

That last part was going to be my next point.

BTW, Launchpad, I would like your top scum and town reads. You are technically new, so I want to get a feel for your opinions.

Top scum: Swamped, Palmer, Sawneeks

Top town: Lifeline, Natiko
 

Palmer_v1

Member
But - his elaborate read on a whole team did start day one. So there's that too. And I'm not sure I can buy it as some weird long con.

Fair point. Still a chance that whatever happened was fully in control of scum team, in which case it could have been planned during D1. It's still a long shot, but I would be remiss if i didn't point out the possibility.
 
lynch BB please

What is this some kind of code to your scum buddies?

VOTE: BlackBuzzard

you and WAMD have some 'splainin' to do

Funny how in your crusade for the truth you forgot all about WMD who you now read as town.

Why did BB go Darryl, anyway, when that's obviously not gonna happen at that point

Not picking anything viable at the end of the day is an excellent way to not be held accountable for a townie lynch

Like Skyodin who you just declared town?

Although I haven't been asked, I'll answer in the interest of transparency:

I'm leaning town on SkyOdin, hey_monkey, Blargonaut, Natiko, and WhereAreMahDragonz. I'm leaning scum on isaacnukem, oreomunsta, BlackBuzzard, and acohrs.

Oh im so glad you could join in and share your reads that will surely make you look town. So your scum list is 3 people coasting and me. Woah man slow down with the risky choices. Your town read includes somebody you wanted answers from that afterwards never responded to you and Skyodin who placed an early vote(post 112) on Oreo and never changed it something you condemned me for and i voted on Darryl(508) 2 hours before the no lynch took place and i actually gave my reason for doing so.

[highight]Vote: Dr.Worm
 

Lifeline

Member
Lifeline, why don't you claim? We already know you're town.

Okay, I claim that i am
town


I'm going to be dead by Day 3 anyway, just wait till then if you want to know the details.


Also since going after confirmed town is a waste of time, I'll ask the important questions:

Dr. Worm: Why do think Dragonz is the more believable vanilla than BB?

You started the day of by saying this:

VOTE: BlackBuzzard

you and WAMD have some 'splainin' to do

And while you harassed BlackBuzzard plenty, you completely ignored WAMD and didn't ask her any questions or asked for an explanation.

In fact you went on to defend her when we started talking about her role name starting with THAT instead of THE like everyone else.

So you were not at all worried about Dragonz's claim and considered her town, why did you pretend to be worried? Why did you pretend to impartial and saying both BB and WAMD have to explain, but then went on to ignore WAMD completely?

I know people keep saying I'm attacking people for defending Dragonz too much, but look at this shit. How is not suspicious to any of you?
 

Lifeline

Member
What the fuck BB, why did you have to go and attack Dr. Worm right before I did? Using the same quote too.

Now they'll think we're a scum team.

Good thing i'm confirmed town, I bet that's going to be enough.
 

Burbeting

Banned
I'm still going through the D2 posts, but while I'm there, a question. I think I want Palmer specifically to answer.

If SexyFish was killed last night by Scum, what implications could this have about the scum team?
 

Lifeline

Member
I'm still going through the D2 posts, but while I'm there, a question. I think I want Palmer specifically to answer.

If SexyFish was killed last night by Scum, what implications could this have about the scum team?

I was just looking through old posts and saw one from SexyFish attacking me and saying something like "shit like this is gonna get you killed". So maybe it was an attempt to frame me.
 

Burbeting

Banned
I'm going to talk about it in my D2 runthrough post, but the tl;dr is that I doubt scum killed Sexy just for BB to be able to make that agenda. However, scum BB might have retroactively created it after he figured out he had a chance for few townie points.
 

Lifeline

Member
I think whoever killed SF wasn't aligned with Mafia. I think mafia might have been blocked last night.

SF seems like a really bad target for Mafia to pick, seems more like something a SK or neutral would do without a team to bounce ideas off of.
 

Natiko

Banned
Why would have SF been a bad choice?

I think there are some implications about the possibility of him being the mafia NK choice.
Based on my game as scum in DR3, SF being the night kill means there's a decent chance that scum have a player or two amongst those posting frequently. Coasting scum wouldn't target low post count players unless they think there's a significant PR to be found there.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I'm still going through the D2 posts, but while I'm there, a question. I think I want Palmer specifically to answer.

If SexyFish was killed last night by Scum, what implications could this have about the scum team?

I don't think sexy was a very good scum kill at all, honestly. I wasn't even sure it WAS the scum kill, until the LL poisoner thing got brought up. I thought maybe the scum had been foiled somehow and Sexy was a neutral kill. I say neutral cause I don't think Sexy was a good town vig target either. Now I'm less sure about it because of LL.

If it was scum, it makes me think scum is somewhat active. If they were all coasting, they wouldn't have narrowed it down for us by eliminating someone like sexy.
 

Burbeting

Banned
If SF was the mafia NK choice, that could imply that mafia has multiple experiences, more seasoned players.

I was waiting to hear from Palmer first, but Natiko came in and spoiled it, huh :(.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Sexyfish was also one of the few people who outright supported me and believed I was town on D1. They could have done it to further sabotage me.
 

Burbeting

Banned
I was waiting to hear from Palmer first, but Natiko came in and spoiled it, huh :(.

Nevermind.

If it was scum, it makes me think scum is somewhat active. If they were all coasting, they wouldn't have narrowed it down for us by eliminating someone like sexy.

More or less what I'm thinking for now. I seriously doubt there is something going on like "oh, BB is getting framed!" or "oh, BB is trying to frame himself to make himself look more towny!"
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I should really read before I double post. Took me a while to post cause I was going back through Sexy's posts. Only 16, but still.
 
Which would mean the only clue would really be that we can guess we have seasoned scum and then whatever happened to LL, which he won't tell us. Cool, cool.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Nevermind.



More or less what I'm thinking for now. I seriously doubt there is something going on like "oh, BB is getting framed!" or "oh, BB is trying to frame himself to make himself look more towny!"

The way the votes went down was super odd. Didn't help that neither BB nor I were around, or inclined, to vote for one of the other two to save ourselves. I still think we learn a lot from a BB flip, even though I'm like 50/50 on him. It would settle Swamped in my mind for sure, which further illuminates some things from there.
 

Lifeline

Member
Which would mean the only clue would really be that we can guess we have seasoned scum and then whatever happened to LL, which he won't tell us. Cool, cool.

Why are you so interested in what happened to me? Whatever happened to me was between the poisoner and me.

Also is everyone really going to ignore the points we brought up against Dr. Worm and just keep going after confirmed/already dead towns.
 

Burbeting

Banned
The way the votes went down was super odd. Didn't help that neither BB nor I were around, or inclined, to vote for one of the other two to save ourselves. I still think we learn a lot from a BB flip, even though I'm like 50/50 on him. It would settle Swamped in my mind for sure, which further illuminates some things from there.

I'm little worried about town setting themselves up for a lynch chain.

Another question: Do you think a scum would dare to go for the dumb stunt that was the "Oh, town role names must start with THE, not THAT!?", which was something BB originated.
 

Burbeting

Banned
Why are you so interested in what happened to me? Whatever happened to me was between the poisoner and me.

Also is everyone really going to ignore the points we brought up against Dr. Worm and just keep going after confirmed/already dead towns.

What the?

You are confirmed town, apparently. So any intel we can get from you should be intel we can actually trust. If you are poisoned, and you keep some vital information until the grave, it was all for nothing.
 
Why are you so interested in what happened to me? Whatever happened to me was between the poisoner and me.

Also is everyone really going to ignore the points we brought up against Dr. Worm and just keep going after confirmed/already dead towns.

For all the reasons I've already stated. And I'm sure no one has forgotten any of the points raised today but damn, son, one thing at at time.
 
I'm little worried about town setting themselves up for a lynch chain.

Another question: Do you think a scum would dare to go for the dumb stunt that was the "Oh, town role names must start with THE, not THAT!?", which was something BB originated.

DID BB start it or was LL already on it, too? I'm on mobile atm so it'll take me a minute to dig it up. There were a few people on that idea at the time and BB hollered about a theory but I'm not positive he started it.
 

Burbeting

Banned
I got it!

Every role starts with THE but Dragons claims hers starts with that. Life can you tell me if yours starts with THE

I am THE little NBSP ceasars pizza fan

and i am alligned with THE town.

Also Sexy's role started with THE not that.

Pretty sure this started that bs.
 

Lifeline

Member
What the?

You are confirmed town, apparently. So any intel we can get from you should be intel we can actually trust. If you are poisoned, and you keep some vital information until the grave, it was all for nothing.

Any information i know has already been put out there, and if you want the direct role quote, that will be provided when i'm dead Day 3.

For all the reasons I've already stated. And I'm sure no one has forgotten any of the points raised today but damn, son, one thing at at time.

Yeah, no problem dude. Take all the time scum chat needs to figure out their story and prep the good doc.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I'm little worried about town setting themselves up for a lynch chain.

Another question: Do you think a scum would dare to go for the dumb stunt that was the "Oh, town role names must start with THE, not THAT!?", which was something BB originated.

Probably not. I wouldn't. So many other weird things happened with BB though. I really struggle to believe that he somehow missed that this was Role Madness when I called it out right before I claimed.
 
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