Tom Warren from The Verge says the BOM isn't that high so he's surprised about the leaked price too.
Thanks.
I do agree if he's wrong he will probably never hear the end of it though.
Tom Warren from The Verge says the BOM isn't that high so he's surprised about the leaked price too.
That isn't now Microsoft has been pushing it though. It very much feels like their focused platform and their future. It's why the price is surprising.Did people forget that the Scorpio is fpr enthusiasts? I would love for it to be $399, but reality states otherwise.
You know what? lol.
You cannot use straight price inflation to argue the would be cost of technology where barring a production problem almost always trends downward and costerformance is continually lowering on the cost end as performance rises, never mind various economic issues that come with a company targeting their product. Scorpio's APU, while fairly large at 14nm is slightly smaller than the XBO's at 28nm while less complex due to no longer requiring the eSRAM that was responsible for it being bigger than the PS4's. MS has basically taken then freed up space coupled with the die shrink to give Scorpio's GPU greater horsepower. It probably isn't costing MS more than the XBO's APU did.
As for everything else, it's pretty much a natural progression from the PS4 in 2013 or even the Pro in 2016 which Sony half-assed to an extent.
He doesn't seem to be the kind of person to spoil something from Microsoft's conference, the price of Scorpio for that matter, that was roughly 6 hours away from being revealed, just to be able to say he called it first. It seems like he was asked to do it either as a clever ploy to create hype when MS sells it for 399 or to break the bad news softly before the actual conference since MS has already seen people complaining about being Scorpio being priced too high. Either way, I think it was rehearsed.
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Why would Geoff fake leak the price on purpose?
What would he gain from this?
Nobody saying it is a smart move. But it really depends on what Microsoft wants. If they see this as a console for the gamer crowd that want to latest and greatest, they might bet on them buying it anyway, while the rest goes for an Xbox One S. To then drop Scorpio in price later on.The problem is we're not talking about a next-gen console at the start of it's life-cycle coming after the most successful home console ever. We're talking about an expensive mid-gen revision that's expected to sell at a time where the base Xbox One has stagnated.
The worry is that this is more Sega CD than PS3.
He could be right and wrong at the same time.
The S launched with an early version for $100 more. Scorpio could do the same thing, so a +1TB version could be 499, and regular SKU could be 399 a month later.
He could have a bad source, it could be a misinformation leak to expose the internal leak as well as surprise people with the actual price. Or he could be right and the price is in line with all the expectations from DF and other press and "concerned" people will show up en masse to decry how terrible and unexpected the price is.
Given the only thing to go on is his credibility, I'm not buying into his prediction, but I'm not writing him off as being malevolent or anything either. I'm sure he thinks he is sure, but at the same time as someone who has their own show and doesn't like leaks, its very unprofessional of him to be publicly speculating like this hours before the reveal.
Personally I think it's a great deal at either price, in Day 1 with a new 4k set this fall either way.
How about Option Reality? You both are correct.How about Option C: He or one of his sources heard this from the rehearsal and he decided to report it?
If this is indeed a bait and switch "leak", then Keighley has been hanging around Kojima way too much.
And he would have played us like a fiddle.
You cannot use straight price inflation to argue the would be cost of technology where barring a production problem almost always trends downward and costerformance is continually lowering on the cost end as performance rises, never mind various economic issues that come with a company targeting their product. Scorpio's APU, while fairly large at 14nm is slightly smaller than the XBO's at 28nm while less complex due to no longer requiring the eSRAM that was responsible for it being bigger than the PS4's. MS has basically taken then freed up space coupled with the die shrink to give Scorpio's GPU greater horsepower. It probably isn't costing MS more than the XBO's APU did.
As for everything else, it's pretty much a natural progression from the PS4 in 2013 or even the Pro in 2016 which Sony half-assed to an extent.
If this is indeed a bait and switch "leak", then Keighley has been hanging around Kojima way too much.
And he would have played us like a fiddle.
He doesn't seem to be the kind of person to spoil something from Microsoft's conference, the price of Scorpio for that matter, that was roughly 6 hours away from being revealed, just to be able to say he called it first. It seems like he was asked to do it either as a clever ploy to create hype when MS sells it for 399 or to break the bad news softly before the actual conference since MS has already seen people complaining about being Scorpio being priced too high. Either way, I think it was rehearsed.
That isn't now Microsoft has been pushing it though. It very much feels like their focused platform and their future. It's why the price is surprising.
The problem is we're not talking about a next-gen console at the start of it's life-cycle coming after the most successful home console ever. We're talking about an expensive mid-gen revision that's expected to sell at a time where the base Xbox One has stagnated.
The worry is that this is more Sega CD than PS3.
I'm loving this.
Kojima and Keighley are actually two people that share a single body. They're like those siblings from Legion. That's why Kojima still looks so young. Geoff is the one who spends the most time on the outside.If this is indeed a bait and switch "leak", then Keighley has been hanging around Kojima way too much.
And he would have played us like a fiddle.
I'm not getting the impression that the vast majority is expecting $399.Is it a surprise when the vast majority of people observing this are expecting precisely that? The "surprise" would be Geoff ruining his credibility for attention on Twitter.
If this is indeed a bait and switch "leak", then Keighley has been hanging around Kojima way too much.
And he would have played us like a fiddle.
I'm betting not only was the Geoff tweet a planned 'leak', but Microsoft will actually make reference to it. Like "Scorpio will launch at $449. I bet that's a bit lower than you were expecting, huh?"
I'm betting not only was the Geoff tweet a planned 'leak', but Microsoft will actually make reference to it. Like "Scorpio will launch at $449. I bet that's a bit lower than you were expecting, huh?"
Gens are over. You have to adjust your thinking accordingly.
It's the most logical reaction, to be honest. I can't believe how many people prefer being lied to in the face than admitting Microsoft could sell this machine for a higher price than they anticipated.
Us gamers, am I right!?
Right, but if they're doing it at a private event and someone overhears and leaks, then that's letting the leaker tie their own noose.
You can't accuse Microsoft of being purposefully deceitful if that is the case. The lesson is "don't leak stuff".
It's the centerpiece of their entire conference and was a huge part of it last year. This is the thing for them. I don't find it similar to how Sony has handled the Pro at all.But they have been pushing it like that. Spencer has said from the jump it's for enthusiasts especially in regards to the tech.
He did a whole interview in regards to the pricing and made it a point to say this thing is for enthusiasts and to expect a price that matches that.
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Getting called out on a website outside of GAF by a saltlord. I've finally made it!
Why would Geoff fake leak the price on purpose?
What would he gain from this?
Microsoft is revealing the price in less than 3 hours at this point, there's no reason to lie if the truth is gonna be revealed immediately aftera paycheck
What is the BOM? Because it looks really $100 more expensive than Pro... bigger chip, 4GB addiction GDDR5, UHD drive, etc.Tom Warren from The Verge says the BOM isn't that high so he's surprised about the leaked price too.
He wouldn't but companies such as Universal and Disney give their employees false information to route out leaks on purpose on a regular basis. Imagine if a cameraman during the rehearsals who has signed out a NDA then Microsoft can pinpoint it to someone on the Galen center.
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