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Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Thread: Everyone wants it, no one uses it
- Thread starter Banjo-Kazooie
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Yes it is. I have it in my library right now
They are emulated PS2 games. The trophies are done by monitoring memory addresses. Sony even patented it so we know exactly how they're doing it. If they were true ports they would have been properly updated to show the DS4 and replace all instances of it telling you to not remove your PS2 memory card or controller..
Which one? And both?
Catherine. Not sure about the other game you mentioned
billy beane
Banned
Lemme get that Ninja Gaiden for Xbox though Microsoft.
Did you download those games for free using your original PS2 game discs? It's a totally different situation. If they were to go to all the hassle of adding achievements to all of the games on top of the work of making them BC in the first place they'd likely have to end up charging for it which defeats the purpose of BC for me. I'd wager most don't want to pay a fee to play games they already own.
wishlist item: they emulate the custom playlist functionality and let us load up songs for games that support custom playlists. The 360 never implemented it for the OXbox emulator, and you could sort of duct tape it by starting a music playlist before launching the OXbox mode which just played the music continously while playing the game, but it'd be nice if we could actually copy songs for the One to expose to BC games.
Shil Pencer
Member
I was so hyped I thought table tennis was BC
firenze
Member
I'd be a little surprised if it doesn't show up some time leading up to the release of Crackdown 3. That's a notably omission though, was just looking through my 360 discs last night and it really stuck out.
chronic_archaic
Member
You can do it in BC games if you have a transfer kit and copy the audio to specific directories. The emulator will pick up your tracks like the OG would.
oh neat. I actually have the HDD transfer cable, i'll have to look into that. missed it while playing Burnout 3
amdb00mer
Member
Yeah, so it's ok. If it's the price to have a "free" emulation, compatible with our 15yo discs, that's fine.
Do we know if their goal is to achieve 100% backward compatibility? On both 360 and OG Xbox? And will there be improvement with BC on Xbox One X? I'd like to have most/all 360 games at 60fps on XOX.
They won't be able to do 100% on either due to some games having license issues that can't be sorted out. Also, some publishers seem to not be big supporters. Look at Capcom. Bare bones support. They seem to only support games they have no intention of re-releasing with only the exception of Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10.
Also, Phil was on Giantbomb or another show and specifically stated they have already identified what OG Xbox games they will be able to curate (bring over) to BC on Xbox One. He did mention first party in a response to a question about a specific game, can't remember the title. So it looks like it will almost be the same scenario. I just hope Sega gets on board as Otogi 1& 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta, and Gun Valkyrie deserve to be preserved.
D'ultimate
Member
How many Sega games have received the 360 BC treatment?
MilkyJoe
Member
Who gives a f*ck about achievements to the point that they wouldn't play a game if it doesn't have them?
I'd love to be able to turn them off.
amdb00mer
Member
Quite a few, but that's 360 and these are OG Xbox. Does not mean they will automatically be BC just because some 360 games were.
Which you had to buy again.
I think it'd be safe to say that the only guaranteed BC games at the moment would be the ones still currently being digitally sold on 360 since all the rights would generally still currently be in the clear to continue to be digitally sold.
So it's somewhat obvious that EA has kept up the rights for Burnout 3, so I'd expect that to come back (in fact, I almost expect them to throw it onto EA Access)
So it's somewhat obvious that EA has kept up the rights for Burnout 3, so I'd expect that to come back (in fact, I almost expect them to throw it onto EA Access)
D'ultimate
Member
I was genuinely just asking. Other than Bayonetta I couldn't think of any.
Sega games are the primary reason I wanted OG BC support. I'm hoping the go all in.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
I really want to play Splinter Cell: Double Agent and since I have never had an original Xbox, I never played the best version of that game.
I do.
in fact on PS4, I don't buy games that don't have a platinum.
everybody is not like you.
and you can turn off the notifications and its like they are not there.
anyways I just want Dead or Alive 3 and Crimson Skies.
Best version? Game also came out for PC, 360 and PS3 my man
The Xbox version is very different to the 360/PS3/PC version, it may as well be a different game altogether.
Do we know if their goal is to achieve 100% backward compatibility? On both 360 and OG Xbox? And will there be improvement with BC on Xbox One X? I'd like to have most/all 360 games at 60fps on XOX.
I'm sure it's the goal, but in practical terms, that's totally unreasonable to expect. And unfortunately re: framerates, that would require individual re-engineering, which in some cases is almost impossible for how the games were built.
This was a conversion more than an emulation, but the recent Phantom Dust release was locked to 30 fps because of how it was built.
dancrane212
Member
It was the Chaos Theory team making another game with that same engine; it's awesome.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Double Agent on PC, 360 and PS3 isn't the same game than on Xbox/PS2.
gar3
Member
Hi all,
I'm having a bit of difficulty with the DLC to Dragon Age: Origins and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on it for me. On both my Xbox 360 and Xbox One I have Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition installed. Booting the game digitally on Xbox 360 (or from the main game disc) shows and allows me to access the DLC. On Xbox One though, the DLC is not showing up as owned (it wants me to rebuy it). I have tried booting digitally, booting from the main game disc, and booting from the DLC disc. All three on Xbox One just boot the vanilla version and want me to rebuy the DLC again. I even tried going into my external HDD where Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition is stored, making sure the DLC is there and installed which it is, and booting it from there but the same scenario happens. Any ideas or thoughts about what is going on? Am I missing something?
I'm having a bit of difficulty with the DLC to Dragon Age: Origins and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on it for me. On both my Xbox 360 and Xbox One I have Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition installed. Booting the game digitally on Xbox 360 (or from the main game disc) shows and allows me to access the DLC. On Xbox One though, the DLC is not showing up as owned (it wants me to rebuy it). I have tried booting digitally, booting from the main game disc, and booting from the DLC disc. All three on Xbox One just boot the vanilla version and want me to rebuy the DLC again. I even tried going into my external HDD where Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Edition is stored, making sure the DLC is there and installed which it is, and booting it from there but the same scenario happens. Any ideas or thoughts about what is going on? Am I missing something?
D'ultimate
Member
Did you do the "manage game" install under DAO on the Xbox One?
gar3
Member
Checking "manage game" for Dragon Age: Origins shows the following:
Installed - 12
Ready to install - [blank]
Updates - [blank]
Saved data - 1
I've also done a hard reset on my Xbox One and, yes, I'm connected to the Internet and Xbox Live.
Hatefilled Vengeance
Member
It won't happen, but the BC team should look into Dreamcast BC next. There was that story awhile back about how Sega had wanted the Xbox to play Dreamcast games or whatever.
Imagine that bomb at next years E3.
D'ultimate
Member
Did you install the game from the Ultimate Edition Disk? I believe you have to do that for it to work as it's all included in the emulation 'wrapper'. If you didn't you may have to uninstall, put your disk in and reinstall it.
Use the 2nd disc to install, not the first disc.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
This. Double Agent on the original Xbox was amazing. I definitely want that BC and with achievements if possible.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Your more than likely to get Assault on Dark Athena as a 360 BC title than get Escape from Butcher Bay as an Xbox BC title.
Which is what you should want.
always crazy bacon
Banned
Why? It's included in Dark Athena on Xbox 360 anyway, and it's a better version.
Was MSR ported to anything?
Project Gotham Racing had a bunch of content from it
I was burned by MS too often with this, gave up all hope a long time ago ... ;(
fierce1289
Member
Any chance the Tony Hawk series makes it to BC? Would it be too many problems with licensing?
IMO no chance, there's a lot of licenses here: music, clothes, skateboards etc.
Also, I don't know if Activision still has rights to Tony Hawk brand.
True, but I would rather play it again without having to hook my VGA adapter and Dreamcast back up.
amdb00mer
Member
No worries man. I'm right there with ya. There are a lot of greats on OG Xbox. Gun Valkyrie did have some tough controls, but with Xbox One allowing button remapping and the Elite having paddles, I think it could actually be an even more enjoyable experience on Xbox One. I think I'll tweet Sega and see if I can get a response.
Tweeted them, let's see if they respond.
https://twitter.com/geeketernal/status/876817031517089794
amdb00mer
Member
What's interesting is that MS figured out a way for the Xbox One to identify OG Xbox discs.