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[Weiss]

Question for digital readers: Are there certain things you have to read in print?

I'm trying to read the classic Howard the Duck comics on comixology, and for the life of me I cannot do it. I get a greater glimpse at the art with the panel by panel view, but it feels awkward.

This is the first time I've read a comic this old on comixology, so that may be why.

 

[Aizo]

Question for digital readers: Are there certain things you have to read in print?

I'd personally prefer to read everything physically, but it's just not feasible for how often I move around internationally. The things I do always get physically are manga (because it's considerably cheaper in Japan to buy used manga in perfect condition), graphic novels that don't have digital editions, and I sometimes double dip to buy physical editions of comics I really love.

There is nothing I have to read in print, though.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Manga take up a good bit of space after a while, though. I feel for those people hoarding 80+ volumes of One Piece.

 

[Messi]

Debut at NYCC - Hazel and Isabel

 

[VeeP]

Man Detective Comics finally comes out tmw. I've been waiting for this next issue for a long time... spoilers:

Spoiler

Tim !

 

[MHWilliams]

It's just Marvel doesn't know what to do, DC stepped up their game while Marvel keeps stumbling around.

When yesterday's reveal happened, I just rolled my eyes because they punked out and Legacy not feeling like a new step but the same thing with things moved around, I'm cynical as fuck with them right now.

2012-2015 pre Wars was so fucking good and hit a lot of good spots and now, they have no idea what to do now, it's like $599 PS3 era Sony.

I want them to do better, I want them to succeed in books, I want the new kids to succeed but fuck me, so many fuck ups and Empire was my tipping point.

I'm flabbergasted with them, Green Arrow and Flash, those 2 books alone are fucking aces. Marvel has good shit but they aren't marketing that correctly.

I want people to read Hawkeye, Jean Grey, Gwenpool and the books they axed before now but no, they need to talk about what happened in Venomverse and Secret Empire and there's a mini event after the mini-mini event.

Ahhhhhh... yours is a love hate. You really want Marvel to better and they've spent the past two years flailing around in the dark. I can understand why that would be frustrating. I think they probably at least another year left of rough waters. Probably whatever follows Legacy in the "Marvel Now" style annual linewide rethinks.

I think DC has another two years before they start getting a big head, make a few mistakes, and the bigger talent starts to focus more on their own projects. I do think Young Animal, Milestone, and Dark Matter will help stave some of that off though.

I've gone through too much darkness to worry about it too much. Been reading Marvel since X-tinction Agenda and DC since Zero Hour, so there's a whole lot of bad in the years following. I lived through The Crossing, Heroes Reborn, No-nose Feral Wolverine, Demon Punisher, Superman Blue/Red, Chuck Austen's X-Men, Marville and the rest of the Jemas era, Identity Crisis, and Countdown. The light will return again.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Ahhhhhh... yours is a love hate. You really want Marvel to better and they've spent the past two years flailing around in the dark. I can understand why that would be frustrating. I think they probably at least another year left of rough waters. Probably whatever follows Legacy in the "Marvel Now" style annual linewide rethinks.

I think DC has another two years before they start getting a big head, make a few mistakes, and the bigger talent starts to focus more on their own projects. I do think Young Animal, Milestone, and Dark Matter will help stave some of that off though.

We've got that far to go? I thought by this time next year we'd all be shitting on DC and making DiDio jokes again while buying up all those $5.99 Marvel books.

 

[Messi]

We've got that far to go? I thought by this time next year we'd all be shitting on DC and making DiDio jokes again while buying up all those $5.99 Marvel books.

It's possible it happens before then. Comic fans are fickle.

 

[Aizo]

Manga take up a good bit of space after a while, though. I feel for those people hoarding 80+ volumes of One Piece.

I have 40 volumes of Berserk. It's also rough.

And then... there's this. It weighs over 20kg. 19 volumes of my favorite manga magazine. Kill me.

 

[Ross61]

DC still makes mistakes, they just don't make huge blunders or something that pisses off comic fans like Marvel has been doing lately. DC making a lot of good moves with their recent ventures that the mistakes make people go "Eh, whatever DC." They're just glad New 52 era is over and DC is better as a whole while trying to improve still. Marvel is trying to improve but there changes come with even more some VERY questionable decisions. Like a 5$ weekly title????? I mean I would check it out off the creative team alone but not for 5$ weekly.

 

[Sandfox]

DC still makes mistakes, they just don't make huge blunders or something that pisses off comic fans like Marvel has been doing lately. DC making a lot of good moves with their recent ventures that the mistakes make people go "Eh, whatever DC." They're just glad New 52 era is over and DC is better as a whole while trying to improve still. Marvel is trying to improve but there changes come with even more some VERY questionable decisions. Like a 5$ weekly title????? I mean I would check it out off the creative team alone but not for 5$ weekly.

I would be surprised if the second issue of the weekly book is $5.

Something like Generations should've been $4.

 

[Messi]

DC still makes mistakes, they just don't make huge blunders or something that pisses off comic fans like Marvel has been doing lately. DC making a lot of good moves with their recent ventures that the mistakes make people go "Eh, whatever DC." They're just glad New 52 era is over and DC is better as a whole while trying to improve still. Marvel is trying to improve but there changes come with even more some VERY questionable decisions. Like a 5$ weekly title????? I mean I would check it out off the creative team alone but not for 5$ weekly.

Almost certain the first issue is longer than the rest and the rest will be 3.99 which is still a lot but they are also cutting Uncanny Avengers and USAvengers for the duration so if you are already buying those books it ain't bad. Quality has to be there for that price though. But I don't doubt the quality of 80% of that team.

After catching up on Infamous Iron-Man... It is a massive cock tease if this doesn't lead to some legitimate Fantastic 4 stuff. I could see Bendis being on that if it's bit Aaron, that's a very Marvel move. But this entire second half of the story has been playing with the Fantastic 4

 

[MHWilliams]

DC still makes mistakes, they just don't make huge blunders or something that pisses off comic fans like Marvel has been doing lately. DC making a lot of good moves with their recent ventures that the mistakes make people go "Eh, whatever DC." They're just glad New 52 era is over and DC is better as a whole while trying to improve still. Marvel is trying to improve but there changes come with even more some VERY questionable decisions. Like a 5$ weekly title????? I mean I would check it out off the creative team alone but not for 5$ weekly.

I mean, DC is a year and some change out from Rebirth. They were in a really rough spot and I think that's part of what's feeding into them making all the right moves.

Marvel hit Secret Wars finale and just stalled the fuck out. It's honestly the most mystifying fall I've seen in a while. Usually, it's a slow nightmarish thing.

 

[Messi]

I mean, DC is a year and some change out from Rebirth. They were in a really rough spot and I think that's part of what's feeding into them making all the right moves.

Marvel hit Secret Wars finale and just stalled the fuck out. It's honestly the most mystifying fall I've seen in a while. Usually, it's a slow nightmarish thing.

They had nobody at the time who could continue that big scale momentum Hickman left them with. I think that dude is now Aaron. The mainline direction has been awful since then. The underlying books remain good to great in many cases.

 

[Freezasaurus]

I have 40 volumes of Berserk. It's also rough.

And then... there's this. It weighs over 20kg. 19 volumes of my favorite manga magazine. Kill me.

I have Berserk boxed up. But even heavier than that is those 12 Gundam Origin hardcovers. Those things weigh a ton. Maybe literally.

Marvel hit Secret Wars finale and just stalled the fuck out. It's honestly the most mystifying fall I've seen in a while. Usually, it's a slow nightmarish thing.

I imagine it was something like Ultimatum taking place in the Marvel offices.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Jim Zub should stick to Glitterbomb and nothing else.

Give me a Man-Thing book set in the Bronx.

We'd all read the first issue.

 

[Messi]

Jim Zub should stick to Glitterbomb and nothing else.

We'd all read the first issue.

Wayward is far and away his best book. I could do without more Glitterbomb.

 

[VanWinkle]

They had nobody at the time who could continue that big scale momentum Hickman left them with. I think that dude is now Aaron. The mainline direction has been awful since then. The underlying books remain good to great in many cases.

Do we know Aaron's capability with handling big stories? How was Original Sin?

Jim Zub should stick to Glitterbomb and nothing else.

We'd all read the first issue.

BK, this is way off topic from your post, but have you read Mike Grell's Green Arrow? I think you would adore it.

 

[caliph95]

Jim Zub should stick to Glitterbomb and nothing else.

We'd all read the first issue.

Wayward is far and away his best book. I could do without more Glitterbomb.

Yeah no put me in the camp that prefers he keeps going with Wayward as well

 

[Messi]

Do we know Aaron's capability with handling big stories? How was Original Sin?



BK, this is way off topic from your post, but have you read Mike Grell's Green Arrow? I think you would adore it.

I didn't like it but I think he has grown majorly in a short space of time. People here didn't hate it apart from the nick fury whisper thing.

His Thor run is like one big event lol

 

[Sou Da]

We've got that far to go? I thought by this time next year we'd all be shitting on DC and making DiDio jokes again while buying up all those $5.99 Marvel books.

It's possible it happens before then. Comic fans are fickle.

I mean, DC is a year and some change out from Rebirth. They were in a really rough spot and I think that's part of what's feeding into them making all the right moves.

Marvel hit Secret Wars finale and just stalled the fuck out. It's honestly the most mystifying fall I've seen in a while. Usually, it's a slow nightmarish thing.

I'm telling you: Ethan Sciver, head of Milestone.

 

[Messi]

I'm telling you: Ethan Sciver, head of Milestone.

Got any of them Doomsday Clock spoilers

 

[MHWilliams]

They had nobody at the time who could continue that big scale momentum Hickman left them with. I think that dude is now Aaron. The mainline direction has been awful since then. The underlying books remain good to great in many cases.

Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. Marvel still puts out good books, but the overall perception of the line is rough, because the books at the top (Avengers, X-Men) aren't all that hot. They need a direction. There have been some hints in Legacy, but not enough to fully right the ship.

 

[Messi]

Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier. Marvel still puts out good books, but the overall perception of the line is rough, because the books at the top (Avengers, X-Men) aren't all that hot. They need a direction. There have been some hints in Legacy, but not enough to fully right the ship.

I can't believe they didn't put Aaron on Avengers that seems like a Slam dunk. Maybe he doesn't want it. I'm glad to see he is staying with Thor.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Wayward is far and away his best book. I could do without more Glitterbomb.

Yeah no put me in the camp that prefers he keeps going with Wayward as well

I forgot about Wayward.

BK, this is way off topic from your post, but have you read Mike Grell's Green Arrow? I think you would adore it.

I have not.

 

[Messi]

I forgot about Wayward.


I have not.

I am surprised you remembered Glitterbomb, you and the other 5 fans must have good memories.

Pls understand. I mean well.

 

[Sandfox]

I can't believe they didn't put Aaron on Avengers that seems like a Slam dunk. Maybe he doesn't want it. I'm glad to see he is staying with Thor.

Jim Zub said that the weekly arc is the "final hurrah" for the current era of the Avengers team, so we'll see what's coming next.

 

[Messi]

Jim Zub said that the weekly arc is the "final hurrah" for the current era of the Avengers team, so we'll see what's coming next.

How long is the weekly thing?

Boyz remember Avengers BC. That's still happening right?

 

[duckroll]

Is Marvel Legacy #1 worth picking up if I don't care at all about the current sate of Marvel continuity or whatever crossover shit they are doing next, but want cool art and self-contained stories? This is the one with Marvel heroes in ancient lore as gods right?

 

[Messi]

Is Marvel Legacy #1 worth picking up if I don't care at all about the current sate of Marvel continuity or whatever crossover shit they are doing next, but want cool art and self-contained stories? This is the one with Marvel heroes in ancient lore as gods right?

No, this is the book that sets the table for going forward. I believe the BC Avengers are featured though. This looks like the wrong book for you.

 

[Sandfox]

How long is the weekly thing?

Boyz remember Avengers BC. That's still happening right?

It's three months long starting in January.

Aaron said on Twitter today that he's not writing a Avengers BC book. He's working on something new for Legacy that they will returning in and the seeds for the book are planted in the one-shot.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I am surprised you remembered Glitterbomb, you and the other 5 fans must have good memories.

Pls understand. I mean well.

A new issue came out last week

 

[error4041]

Rosenberg has 4 books (Secret Warriors, Punisher, Hawkeye/Winter Soldier team-up and Jean Grey mini) going on in Marvel Legacy, I bet by this time next year he'll be on completely different books.

 

[Messi]

It's three months long starting in January.

Aaron said on Twitter today that he's not writing a Avengers BC book. He's working on something new for Legacy that they will returning in and the seeds for the book are planted in the one-shot.

Well that's an interesting tease.

A new issue came out last week

Christ I even put it in the OP.

Rosenberg has 4 books (Secret Warriors, Punisher, Hawkeye/Winter Soldier team-up and Jean Grey mini) going on in Marvel Legacy, I bet by this time next year he'll be on completely different books.

Is Tales of Suspense not designed to switch writers quickly? Punisher I can see him staying on, secret warriors will be canned and jeans book is a mini. Safe bets imo.

I'd hope with him becoming exclusive he would move to bigger books tbh.

 

[Sandfox]

Well that's an interesting tease.



Christ I even put it in the OP.



Is Tales of Suspense not designed to switch writers quickly? Punisher I can see him staying on, secret warriors will be canned and jeans book is a mini. Safe bets imo.

Tales of Suspense is a mini as well.

The new Avengers lineup is looking pretty crazy so it will be interesting to see what they do with the team next.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Christ I even put it in the OP.

Well well well someone's a bit forgetful

 

[Messi]

Well well well someone's a bit forgetful

I buy a lot of books...

 

[mreddie]

Yup they also have : Kelly Thompson, Christopher Hastings, Brandon Montclare and Amy Reeder, Ryan North, Chip Zdarsky, Dennis Hopeless, Mariko Tamaki, Kieron Gillen, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Greg Pak, Tom Taylor, Jason Latour and David F Walker.

So forgive me for not thinking these writers are a bunch of talentless scrubs. Every one of these peoples books are worth reading. That's before you get to Bendis who is currently doing 3-4 books containing some of the best work of his career and Slott finishing up a stellar run on Silver Surfer regardless of how you feel about his Spider-man.

Marvels problems are not talent related. They are a management and vision issue. There are many legit books being published by them right now once you step away from the event.

This, the talent is there but they are still focused on the old guard. Spencer was the first to bat. Aaron I hope can bring it on a large scale after Sin. Again, Sin didn't suck but it's a bit off plus the whisper thing.

 

[error4041]

Is Tales of Suspense not designed to switch writers quickly? Punisher I can see him staying on, secret warriors will be canned and jeans book is a mini. Safe bets imo.

I'd hope with him becoming exclusive he would move to bigger books tbh.

I would say he is solidly middle tier right now which is impressive since a year ago all he had was the Civil War II Kingpin tie-in and a Quake one-shot. depending on how his upcoming slate of books is received, I could see him climbing even higher in time for the next relaunch.

 

[BKatastrophe]

This, the talent is there but they are still focused on the old guard. Spencer was the first to bat. Aaron I hope can bring it on a large scale after Sin. Again, Sin didn't suck but it's a bit off plus the whisper thing.

The whisper was so cool

 

[VanWinkle]

I didn't like it but I think he has grown majorly in a short space of time. People here didn't hate it apart from the nick fury whisper thing.

His Thor run is like one big event lol

Thor is wonderful stuff. But it's still basically confined to one superhero.

I have not.

Please do.

 

[BKatastrophe]

Please do.

 

[duckroll]

No, this is the book that sets the table for going forward. I believe the BC Avengers are featured though. This looks like the wrong book for you.

Am I confused then? I remember a thread some time back with an upcoming book with that stuff in it and kickass art.

 

[Aizo]

I have Berserk boxed up. But even heavier than that is those 12 Gundam Origin hardcovers. Those things weigh a ton. Maybe literally.

I own those. The box I posted still weighs more and is much larger

 

[Sandfox]

Am I confused then? I remember a thread some time back with an upcoming book with that stuff in it and kickass art.

You got the right book, but it's mostly setting up future stories in the Marvel Universe.

 

[duckroll]

You got the right book, but it's mostly setting up future stories in the Marvel Universe.

All I wanna know is whether I'll have a good time with the book even if I don't care to read future stories or follow the immediate events much.

 

[Aizo]

All I wanna know is whether I'll have a good time with the book even if I don't care to read future stories or follow the immediate events much.

It's a little early to say, isn't it? It's not out for a few hours for pretty much everyone. I think the talent on the book is very good, so it convinced me to buy it.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I'm gonna be honest here

Fernando Blanco is a discount Mikel Janin

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Legacy got the goods

 

[Ross61]

I'm gonna be honest here

Fernando Blanco is a discount Mikel Janin

Ehhhh, he’s a great artist in his own right. I don’t know if I could compare his style to Mikel Janin. Plus he has way better movement and paneling imo.