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[DeadManWalking]

There was not enough loot box potential. You can understand them. gg

 

[Sidon]

 

[GnomeBambino]

I'm half expecting it to be Destiny/GR:W situation where it sells incredibly well in spite of a large section of GAF writing it off.


Or it wasn't coming together. Don't think people realize just how late in the process MTs get added to a game.

Perhaps you're right. However I still maintain EA's increasing fixation on loot boxes as they seem to be included prominently in all their games now made the decision to ax the project easier for them rather than trying to save it. It's a StarWars game was it's commercial success ever going to be a concern?

 

[Kinyou]

I always thought that game was canned long ago. Well, I'm now excited for the game. Seems they want to go open world and if they give us something like KotoR then I'll be a happy camper.

I doubt that will be their direction. A multiplayer focus is more likely

 

[jayu26]

So? You got underperforming online-focused games as well - like For Honor iirc.

For Honor is doing fine. The thing is, with Gaas model what ends up happening is that even if not a lot of people buy or stick with the game, few that do end up spending a lot on them. These companies are okay with that. Of course what they really want is for them to sell a lot and lot of people to stick around to spend even more money like Overwatch. It is very hard to do those things with single player games and even if they try to do it they end up loot boxes in single player games and gamers (or at least vocal gamers) are not cool with it. At least not yet.

 

[Lifejumper]

Werent Motive supporting the now canceled SW game? I dont think they are developing their own SW game.

 

[Baraka Obama]

So EA already has a Destiny competitor in the works from Bioware. It's unlikely they would want two.

Maybe they are going all in on Open World with Lootboxes, PVP and Virtual Currency since "Linear" was specifically mentioned as an issue.

Probably something along the lines of Shadow of Mordor with a primary online focus.

 

[Eylos]

Somebody has the kill list from EA?
Edit:beaten

 

[Sephzilla]

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sorry this affects you too

also, welcome back?

 

[Yazzees]

Keep chasing that GaaS dragon, suits. I'll just stick to Dota.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Destiny 2 mediocre sales tell a lot about how large that "section of GAF" really is.

That game had a peak CC users at 1.3 mil and even in spite of being a drop from the last's debut sales, was the biggest launch at retail this year last I checked. Activision is laughing all the way to the bank at the idea that Destiny 2 had "mediocre" sales.

Perhaps you're right. However I still maintain EA's increasing fixation on loot boxes as they seem to be included prominently in all their games now made the decision to ax the project easier for them rather than trying to save it. It's a StarWars game was it's commercial success ever going to be a concern?

Which is why I think it's likely that the game may not have been coming together as well as expected. Literally the only footage ever released was this:

 

[Septimius]

Loot boxes, loot boxes for everyone!

And microtransactions!

 

[Nokterian]

EA just like activision, sets studio to only towards that makes a profit nothing more unique or cool new IP's for taking a risk.

Activision in particular have put all studio's on CoD...nothing else. All talents at Raven Software or High Moon Studios and even Radical Entertainment. All of them are sucked up or merged to just CoD stuff. Nothing more, same with EA buying studio's in the end they will be killed of.

It is a shame, it is a shame that they continue with focus groups..that shit should not happen period.

 

[Cardon]

Werent Motive supporting the now canceled SW game? I dont think they are developing their own SW game.

I thought they were just doing the single player for Battlefront 2 while working on a new non Star Wars IP.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Ugh, RIP Visceral.

And RIP single-player games in the near future.

Time to buy a Nintendo Switch.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

RIP Dead Space and Dante's Inferno. And EA probably won't greenlight American McGee's Alice 3 pitch either.

Fucking EA.

I wouldn't either after McGee exposed himself as a GG sympathizer.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Meh DICE is their most important dev so they’re alive and well

 

[t hicks]

Noooooooo
God fucking damn it

 

[jayu26]

Keep chasing that GaaS dragon, suits. I'll just stick to Dota.

I do believe Dota is considered Gaas model. So Irony?

 

[Mass Effect]

Keep chasing that GaaS dragon, suits. I'll just stick to Dota.

uh...

 

[Kill3r7]

So? You got underperforming online-focused games as well - like For Honor iirc.

For Honor was one of the best selling games during the first half of the year. I don’t think that is a good example. You could argue ME:A but that still sold fairly well, much better than most highly acclaimed titles this year. Prior to August the best selling game for the year was Wildlands.

 

[Servbot24]

Wow. From EA's comment about the development shift it sounds like I won't be playing Star Wars.

 

[PSOreo]

If the reason for the cancellation was due to it being linear then I’m never playing an EA title ever again. Can’t believe what is happening to this industry.

Hope everyone who lost their job find their feet.

 

[TheRazielim]

EA just like activision, sets studio to only towards that makes a profit nothing more unique or cool new IP's for taking a risk.
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Probably has something to do with both companies being public.

Sad for Hennig though. Two failed projects (if you count UC4) in a row. Wish she made another LoK game, but that ship has sailed I guess. Not particularly saddened by not getting the Star Wars game though, tbh the whole franchise has been shamelessly milked and would be far more interested in something more original.

 

[Hidden One]

After Hardline....It was only a matter of time...

 

[trejo]

Bye bye dead Space.

At least we got two good games out of them.

 

[JayCB]

Eurghhhh EA..

 

[iHaunter]

If the reason for the cancellation was due to it being linear then I'm never playing an EA title ever again. Can't believe what is happening to this industry.

As if linear games are bad? They just have to be done well. EA executives only look at figures.

The Last of Us was very linear, still a 10/10 in most peoples' books.

 

[GravityInsanity]

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WOW, you're back. Also, sorry.

 

[cyberevan]

Weird this happened before the release of Battlefront 2. Wont this affect its sales?

 

[Fox Mulder]

Cool, don't have to have interest in any star wars games now.

 

[Audioboxer]

Loot boxes, loot boxes for everyone!

And microtransactions!

With Star Wars being the topic of discussion here, a history lesson from 2011 might be appropriate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6-u8OIJTE

For comedic effect, I've added the Emperor's Theme from Star Wars to his talk... it seems appropriate, as EA Bioware is developing the new Star Wars MMORPG (hopefully microtransaction free!)

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

Bye bye dead Space.

At least we got two good games out of them.

One classic and above average game. Sad to hear this, dead space is one of my all time favorites

 

[Crossing Eden]

Keep chasing that GaaS dragon, suits. I'll just stick to Dota.

 

[Mr Swine]

Meh, when EA shows the next battlefield and Star Wars games everything will be forgotten and you guys will gobble up like nothing. Too bad for visceral :/

 

[jayu26]

Amy Henning please come back to ND! This affects bish too, right?

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Double fuck you EA.

Meh, when EA shows the next battlefield and Star Wars games everything will be forgotten and you guys will gobble up like nothing. Too bad for visceral :/

I don't care for Battlefield, never have. I was very excited for Amy's game. What about people like me?

 

[PSOreo]

As if linear games are bad? They just have to be done well.

The Last of Us was very linear, still a 10/10 in most peoples' books.

Exactly. I don’t mind if they’re going for something akin to the Witcher surely the reason it was linear was for the sake of telllng the story they wanted to tell?

Also am I missing something as to how this affects Bish did he work for them?

 

[Obliterator]

Destiny 2 mediocre sales tell a lot about how large that "section of GAF" really is.

It's gonna be really unfortunate for these hot takes when / if Activision actually reveals the digital split % for D2

 

[robinsxe]

First and foremost; This sucks for everyone that loses their job/are unable to move. Sorry for you folks and i hope you land on your feet.

Secondly, the gaming industry is at a crossroads here that I as a gamer (although in the minority im sure) is very disappointed about. Moving towards online-only lootboxin' season passin' teamworkin' games as a servicein' products is the worst possible thing I can imagine. My cup of tea is a refined 8-20 hour experience, something this seems like a milestone in killing.

 

[Surfside]

Probably something along the lines of Shadow of Mordor with a primary online focus.

Do you mean where the beginning is single player and the end game becomes multyplayer focused?

 

[daTRUballin]

Of course. Another studio shut down by EA. They’re the Microsoft of third party publishers. Except even worse.

 

[Kresnik258]

I can't see if it was mentioned on the last 28 pages (lol), but a quick google search of Visceral tells me the first game they developed was Future Cop: LAPD...

... aka one of my all-time favourites.

Well, that one stings (although truth be told, I didn't know they'd developed it until now).

So EA have killed Bullfrog (makers of one of my all-time favourite games, Theme Hospital); Westwood (makers of one of my all-time favouite games, Tiberian Sun) and now Visceral. Alongside the way they've gutted Maxis and Criterion.

What a day! I hope all those affected land on their feet.

 

[Boke1879]

As if linear games are bad? They just have to be done well.

The Last of Us was very linear, still a 10/10 in most peoples' books.

I think you guys are kinda missing the point when they stay that stuff.

It's not like the games will be bad. It's just in this market that's not what most people are buying in droves these days. If anything EA is seeing the market trends and are reacting.

 

[DVCY201]

Man, didn't Dead Space 3 even end with a cliffhanger? It's unfortunate we'll never see 4 without the forced BS shoved into the 3rd game.

 

[RRockman]

Keep chasing that GaaS dragon, suits. I'll just stick to Dota.

Bruv that is a Gaas Game

 

[Carcetti]

I do believe Dota is considered Gaas model. So Irony?

It's not an infinite well. Gaas games bind players into them and eat up a shitload of time. It's gonna be a market of only a few giants eventually.

 

[Ahasverus]

Amy Henning please come back to ND! This affects bish too, right?

Noo, let her return to Eidos, we need a new legacy of kain far more than an Uncharted.

 

[Revolutionary]

EA, ladies and gentlemen.
RIP Visceral

 

[Mr Swine]

Double fuck you EA.



I don't care for Battlefield, never have. I was very excited for Amy's game. What about people like me?

I’m the same, played BF3 and thought it was ok, haven’t bought a EA game since The Sims 4

 

[badb0y]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSUWFgLWGU

Jim's take with a throwback to when he called Visceral was next.