You guys are so funny. Keep fighting the good fight.
Fact of the matter is this.
They were drunk. Evilore jumped in a shower naked. She said no sir not today. He got out. Some time later they had consensual adult sex.
Get the fuck over yourselves you narrow minded fucks.
This is true, and if you're referring to me, I was only judging this last episode.
Just noticed that m0dus got banned and the PSN themes/avatar thread got taken down, anyone knows what's up with that?
They're seeking attention.
You guys are so funny. Keep fighting the good fight.
Fact of the matter is this.
They were drunk. Evilore jumped in a shower naked. She said no sir not today. He got out. Some time later they had consensual adult sex.
Get the fuck over yourselves you narrow minded fucks.
Wait, what?
I just checked and you're right. The entire TruantPixel thread is deleted and m0dus is banned. He posted once last night though and didn't say anything ban-worthy.
Okay now how about all the other stuff?
There won't be more transparency when it comes to this site. Just look at how the moderation will be anonymous going forwardAlso I feel like Evilore should make a statement about Amir0x. The more transparency, the more trust you can win back. If we keep sweeping it under the rug the more people feel distrust/flee.
If in case something like that happens again in the future, will we sweep it under the rug too? NeoGAF needs a lawyer or a PR team.
Just be more transparent is all we're saying.
Wait, what?
I just checked and you're right. The entire TruantPixel thread is deleted and m0dus is banned. He posted once last night though and didn't say anything ban-worthy.
So it's cool if I jump naked into the shower with you mother and sister?
Resetera needs to get its house in order. I will urge anyone who is going to join that Twitter/forum be aware 4chan/gg has ALREADY infiltrated it and are posting screenshots of the mod/admin conversations, regular people conversations, peoples discord handles etc. And from those screenshots it looks like a lot of angry people shitting on other people they dont like and some really... interesting rules.
Also RESETRA needs to figure oit who on their advisors/mods whatever is leaking all your private conversations cause its painting you in a bad light.
Yikes. Theyre fucked from the start, feels bad tbh.
I really don't have anything that meaningful to say. Who knows what really happened.
But I have found this to be the greatest GAMING discussion forum there ever was, most people here understand how the industry and how gaming development works, leading to much more productive discussions. I think that alone makes this community special since it's practically unheard of to have this type of high level discussion anywhere on the internet. I've learned a lot here about how things go behind the scenes.
And the E3 and PSX threads, nothing in life comes close to that.
And the news, news is posted here way quicker than anything else, this community is on top of that shit.
Elephant in the room is the off-topic board and the political discussion it contained. Loved OT for the discussion of tv, movies, new tech, personal advice etc... But damn, the political discussion was imo, way out of hand. Kind of agree with the echo chamber sentiments. Seemed like you couldn't have a differing opinion without being labelled scum who should just die. I agree it was getting toxic, and probably turning off potential new members. (as others have said, look at reddit at the celebrations of this place burning) Definitely came off as extreme far far left, and i'd also argue that the overall tone and attitude on display here is EXACTLY how trump got elected. That sort of extremism is a little frightening for some. (the irony of trump himself being extreme is not lost on me)
As someone like myself, who simply tries to ignore the political non-sense that's been going on, seeing off-topic flooded with political threads was off-putting. Long before this happened, I always thought politics should get its own separate board.
I got a little side tracked, but my original point was this: For gaming discussion, which is what this site's main purpose is, this place is special, and I think it wrong for all these people to jump ship over the accusations of one man. You don't even know if these accusations are true. Some people do lie, even if the person in question is a known asshole, doesn't mean he did it. Maybe the woman has a grudge? Not saying he didn't do it, maybe he did, But we must consider both possibilities.
Is it worth throwing away this mostly great community over something some woman claimed on facebook? Even if he's guilty, he was accused of getting in the shower with her, nothing more. Gross? yes. But even she hasn't claimed he did anything more than that.
The extreme reaction to the situation I think solidifies some others thoughts on what was wrong with the political discussion in off topic in the first place. Extreme reactions. And that I think, is a reflection of why the US is so divided. We're all so extreme in our beliefs we don't really have adult conversations anymore (if we ever did)
I went on way longer and rambled way more than I intended but I'm done. Time to get back to actual gaming discussion and #MakeGAFgreatagain
There's been a mass exodus, pretty much all key members, influencers, and communities gone to the wind or at least find it's better to be in Discord where they are not so directly linked to sexual assault allegations, all the good mods of the past are gone, etc.Don't know why people are thinking Gaf is over.
The shitposts will die down, the mods will clean it up, and Gaf will move on.
Of course, especially if they're throwing up everywhere and leave the door open probably for that reason. Gotta show your alpha male dominance. His mother and sister would be lucky to have you.
All I can say is Ill miss some great people who have been a part of my life for a long time.
Jesus Christ. Yeah, nuke this place from orbit. Fuck Evilore and fuck his defense force of misogynistic assholes. GAF deserves to die at this point.
Other stuff? Like being "mean" to her the rest of the trip? Being pissed off? It's not like he got rejected and said fuck off and ditched her.
Grabbing a girls but at a bar?
KILL HIM! HANG HIM! OFF WITH HIS HEAD. I WANT HIM DEAD! I WANT HIS DOG DEAD!
So it's cool if I jump naked into the shower with you mother and sister?
Why does it matter if some time later they had consensual sex?
Are crimes of this nature forgiven if we go on to have a relationship with a partner?
That's where your logic is indicating. Can't be sexual harassment if they later have sex!
You are part of the reason married women who are raped by their husbands don't come out. You're not a troll account because you have a fairly high post count and been here for 3 years.
So this just means you're disgusting. Before you call me out on calling you that, you were the one to call me and others narrow minded fucks.
Either ban this guy or ban me.
If this is what NeoGAF has become then it's a lost cause and I'd rather not be a part of it.
I seriously doubt you will EVER find a forum LESS misogynistic than any version of GAF. Certainly not a gamer forum.
Ask real victims of sexual assault if they could see themselves having sex later on with the perp. I'm certain the answer would be no.
I seriously doubt you will EVER find a forum LESS misogynistic than any version of GAF. Certainly not a gamer forum.
If you were to later have consensual sex with my sister based on these same circumstances I would say, she probably had an interest in you when you jumped in the shower balls out. You don't go from "SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, CAN'T TAKE IT, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME, ME TOO", to sex with the guy later on. It doesn't work like that. Ask real victims of sexual assault if they could see themselves having sex later on with the perp. I'm certain the answer would be no. I'm not disgusting, I'm logical.
Right now there is a hoard of people defending/excusing/victim blaming sexual assault while ignoring other sexual assault incidents as they tell people to "get over it" and "move on". GAF is now as misogynistic and toxic as any gamergater forum.
Likely a request.
If you were to later have consensual sex with my sister based on these same circumstances I would say, she probably had an interest in you when you jumped in the shower balls out. You don't go from "SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, CAN'T TAKE IT, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME, ME TOO", to sex with the guy later on. It doesn't work like that. Ask real victims of sexual assault if they could see themselves having sex later on with the perp. I'm certain the answer would be no. I'm not disgusting, I'm logical.
it is not uncommon for someone who is victimized to stay/get with that person later on. the problem here is that you're incredibly uninformed. you don't really care, though, or you'd be acknowledging the rest of his behavior instead of pretending like this is some stray accusation.
There's been a mass exodus, pretty much all key members, influencers, and communities gone to the wind or at least find it's better to be in Discord where they are not so directly linked to sexual assault allegations, all the good mods of the past are gone, etc.
And you don't know why?
If you were to later have consensual sex with my sister based on these same circumstances I would say, she probably had an interest in you when you jumped in the shower balls out. You don't go from "SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, CAN'T TAKE IT, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME, ME TOO", to sex with the guy later on. It doesn't work like that. Ask real victims of sexual assault if they could see themselves having sex later on with the perp. I'm certain the answer would be no. I'm not disgusting, I'm logical.
Yes.So, in your words, would you say my three years son makes a protest when he doesn't want to eat what we fixed for him?
Id agree with you if it was just one guy doing it randomly.Leavers just ranted and wanted attention. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't try to up their act like it was some kind upper moral move to improve the lives of anybody, because it is not.
Other stuff? Like being "mean" to her the rest of the trip? Being pissed off? It's not like he got rejected and said fuck off and ditched her.
Grabbing a girls but at a bar?
KILL HIM! HANG HIM! OFF WITH HIS HEAD. I WANT HIM DEAD! I WANT HIS DOG DEAD!
Right now there is a hoard of people defending/excusing/victim blaming sexual assault while ignoring other sexual assault incidents as they tell people to "get over it" and "move on". GAF is now as misogynistic and toxic as any gamergater forum.
Yep, just checked the TruantPixel Twitter.
https://twitter.com/TruantPixel/status/922703648601362432
They're taking their GAF PS4 themes down. A reply down below says that m0dus asked to be banned.
If you were to later have consensual sex with my sister based on these same circumstances I would say, she probably had an interest in you when you jumped in the shower balls out. You don't go from "SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, CAN'T TAKE IT, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME, ME TOO", to sex with the guy later on. It doesn't work like that. Ask real victims of sexual assault if they could see themselves having sex later on with the perp. I'm certain the answer would be no. I'm not disgusting, I'm logical.
And I'm unrealistic here.
lol at people complaining about witch hunts because of their conservative beliefs - do you know where the term "witch hunt" comes from you idiots? just think about it for two seconds. and then think about how tyler dismissed this woman's claims by painting her as mentally ill.
So it's cool if I jump naked into the shower with you mother and sister?
Are crimes of this nature forgiven if we go on to have a relationship with a partner?
GAF is now as misogynistic and toxic as any gamergater forum.
Looks like a fling kind of thing and if she was really traumatized then she should not had sex with the guy later on. of shit with no real point being made here? I'm sure it's the latter.
I'm not saying I'm right in thinking that victims wouldn't later on engage in physical contact. For you comparing it to people in abusive relationships, that's an unfair comparison. It's not like Evilore and this lady were in constant contact. It's not like they were in a relationship. I don't know the whole story, and not that it's any of our business. But I don't think it's fair to say, "people are in toxic relationships all the time that they can't get out of"
Looks like a fling kind of thing and if she was really traumatized then she should not had sex with the guy later on.
Yes I know that people are stuck and can't get out of relationships with physical and mental abuse, but that is not what this was.
Can you acknowledge that, or am I just a piece of shit with no real point being made here? I'm sure it's the latter.