The main people behind Gotham Knights are in their 50's....Because when millennials make their own games you get Foresworn and Gotham knights. They have no choice but to rip off the works of people who had more talent than them.
Oh it is a positive for me since I hate millennial games with a passion.
They don't care about a generation of new customers they can recycle a product to......I don't believe the publishers that decided they would remake yet another game did it because they really care about the new generation playing re4.
Yeah, that was shit phrasing on my part but the point was basically what you typed. They value them as fresh people to get money from while putting in minimal effort to develop new games, they don't care for them the way the original post was suggestingThey don't care about a generation of new customers they can recycle a product to......
I agree. I would take as many remakes as i can get, but not at the opportunity cost of newer games, as the grpwing trend of remakes might be suggesting.I think it's great when a newer generation of gamers can experience the worlds/characters and stories we grew up on but in higher fidelity without them having to buy old consoles and or play with outdated mechanics (if they don't want to).
How old are you? You know there was a time when we had new games coming in place of those remakes right?It's a positive.
It allows studios to churn out games faster while working on wholly new titles or new IP that take 4-6 years to develop.
Remakes can be developed in 2-3 years and allows for a more regular cadence of games. Plus it allows a whole new generation to play these games, or allows older players to experience classics in a whole new light.
It's a win all around as far as I'm concerned.
I was just being niceYeah, that was shit phrasing on my part but the point was basically what you typed. They value them as fresh people to get money from while putting in minimal effort to develop new games, they don't care for them the way the original post was suggesting
No they arent...not good ones anyway. were you born in 2000 and dont know any better?Absolute HUGE positive!
Who doesn't want the best games made even better?
If its not, don't buy, derp.
Nobody here is funding anything so stop crying about remakes and remasters and stfu about "BuT i WAat NeW gaMeS!"
New games are made all the time, play those.
Well ideally we should have games out that smoke the old ones. If the medium is progressing the way it should...I think it's great when a newer generation of gamers can experience the worlds/characters and stories we grew up on but in higher fidelity without them having to buy old consoles and or play with outdated mechanics (if they don't want to).
Also, it's awesome playing RE4 and FF7 with a slightly different take or expansion on previous scenarios. Playing through the Wall Market section in FF7R is a completely different experience from the original game.
who?I think its funny how many people hate old games
Absolute HUGE negative!Absolute HUGE positive!
Who doesn't want the best games made even better?
If its not, don't buy, derp.
How would I, or you, or anyone here fund new games? Are you daying thay since the publishers are the ones funding games, they can choose to make endless remakes over new games if they want? Now how is that a good experience for you?Nobody here is funding anything
There is no crying, only analysis of the state of the industryso stop crying about remakes and remasters and
Yes, we all play new games. We're all looking forward to new games, but we'll get fewer new games if developers keep looking for remakes to get guaranteed sales over taking a risk. People have been complaining about the lack of innovation in the AAA industry, and remakes are the wrong solution.stfu about "BuT i WAat NeW gaMeS!"
New games are made all the time, play those.
A smart person^Absolute HUGE negative!
Who doesn't want the developers of the best games ever made to make even better games?
How would I, or you, or anyone here fund new games? Are you daying thay since the publishers are the ones funding games, they can choose to make endless remakes over new games if they want? Now how is that a good experience for you?
Or are you saying since that's what we get we should just accept it and not question it at all?
Do you really want to be playing a GOW Ragnarok or elden ring remake in 2033?
There is no crying, only analysis of the state of the industry
Yes, we all play new games. We're all looking forward to new games, but we'll get fewer new games if developers keep looking for remakes to get guaranteed sales over taking a risk. People have been complaining about the lack of innovation in the AAA industry, and remakes are the wrong solution.
Again, one or two remakes a year = Great, nostalgia satisfied
Every big publisher scraping their collection for remakes = no confidence in new games = fewer new ideas being greenlit
You don't see the fact that you have to look towards indie games concerning? Remember when you looked forward to both the aaa game that had been marketed for years as well as the indie game that's been in early access for a while? And both made you excited to explore new gameplay?Indifferent. there's a are a small a lot of games that come out every year. I can understand it being concerning if you mostly just care about AAA games tho.
Half Life 2 got kinda a Remaster with that Orange Box set.No they arent...not good ones anyway. were you born in 2000 and dont know any better?
2007 for example:
God of war 2
Half life 2 ep 2
Bioshock
Mass effect
Super mario galaxy
Metroid prime 3
Uncharted
Stalker
Halo3
Modern warfare
Assassins creed
Crysis
Portal
Team fortress 2
Were released in one year. All ambitious titles. 2008 was arguably just as good.
We gettin years like that bro?
How old are you? You know there was a time when we had new games coming in place of those remakes right?
2007 had more highly anticipated new IP's released with GOTY level quality than this gen has had all 3 years....
From god of war 2 to half life 2 episode 2 to bioshock to mass effect to halo 3 to mario galaxy and much more. In one year.
So is our hobby getting better or worse?
To be honest, not really, It's almost always been sequels or games from established franchises with a smattering of original ips. If these studios weren't making remakes we'd just be more sequels and spinoffs.You don't see the fact that you have to look towards indie games concerning? Remember when you looked forward to both the aaa game that had been marketed for years as well as the indie game that's been in early access for a while? And both made you excited to explore new gameplay?
My steam wishlist is filled with exciting games but I can also be frustrated that the aaa scene seems to be slowly reducing new ip development and slowly increasing remake frequency
I agree but.... A few short years?For remakes, the most absurd was the TLOU 1 remake just a few short years after the original.
Its gone way off the rails.
God of war 2
Half life 2 ep 2
Bioshock
Mass effect
Super mario galaxy
Metroid prime 3
Uncharted
Stalker
Halo3
Modern warfare
Assassins creed
Crysis
Portal
Team fortress 2
The thing is, I can understand people who say they don't see an issue. 2023 seems to be an exception to the rule, particularly because it has a lot of the most anticipated AAA games of the past few years releasing:Halo: Combat Evolved
Dead or Alive 3
Final Fantasy X
Ico
Silent Hill 2
SSX
Grand Theft Auto III
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Onimusha: Warlords
Devil May Cry
Soul Reaver 2
Max Payne
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Yeah, the 'best-selling franchises must keep releasing games and never end' issue is a discussion for another thread, but I would much rather have sequels that improve on a lore or story core by exploring new ideas than a remake that copies gameplay and presentation, but adds layers of shiny graphics on top.To be honest, not really, It's almost always been sequels or games from established franchises with a smattering of original ips. If these studios weren't making remakes we'd just be more sequels and spinoffs.
See the thing is if I was to list my top games of the last ten years the Remakes would be HIGH on the list, simple because the originals was so damn good and in some case(not all)The thing is, I can understand people who say they don't see an issue. 2023 seems to be an exception to the rule, particularly because it has a lot of the most anticipated AAA games of the past few years releasing:
Starfield
Spiderman 2
Baldurs Gate 3
Legend of Zelda: Tears of the kingdom
Diablo 4
Street Fighter 6
Tekken 8
Final Fantasy 16
Hollow Knight Silksong
Hades 2 early access
Hi-Fi Rush
Homeworld 3
Stalker 2
Alan Wake 2, maybe
Armored Core 6?
Assassins Creed Mirage, maybe
WH40k Space Marine 2, maybe
Hogwarts Legacy
(Damn, a lot of sequels coming out this year) If they all turn out great, 2023 will probably be one to remember, but I'm more annoyed with the growing trend of remakes
Of course new isn't always better. But constantly remaking old is worse, no? Look at the first list in my op, everything on that list was released in the past 3 or 4 years and most of them are among the highest rated games of their respective years (GTA Trilogy for shame). The Metroid, RE4 and Dead space remakes are already (and will probably stay among) the highest rated games of this year. Think back to your favourite years of gaming - how many remakes were you playing?New is not always better. They’d spend millions making new tech for some big trial and error when they know a game remade sells. I’d rather play something good than watch a brand new IP bring the entire franchise down.
They only seem to remake the games that guarantee sales, i.e. the classics. My point is that if this trend continues there's a good chance the best games of 2025 might just be remakes for The Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Journey, MGS V, and Bloodborne remakes (following the 10 year minimum that TLOU remake seems to suggest)I would also get sick of hearing about classic games that didn’t age well. Why is it a classic? Games can suck that have better controls than a classic game. It doesn’t make it a classic. You could spend a fortune hunting down classic games or you could play the updated remake. It’s great to have as an option. We get brand new IP’s and then we complain about the developer losing focus. They stop focusing on what got fans onboard in the first place.
A new MGS would have very little excitement because everyone who cares about MGS knows that Konami doesn't. That's not the case for most franchises. Moving forward is the only way for the industry to survive, swimming in nostalgia will not lead to better games. The classics are always there, we should be looking to surpass them.I’m more particular with my remakes. I’d take a remake of MGS over a new or remake of Splinter Cell. For some games, moving forward hasn’t done them any good. The older game is always considered better or the writing sucks in the new game. We constantly reference the classic or better days. My guess is a lot of people aren’t getting the Classic game to complain about graphics. I think it’s great we have these big upscaled remakes.
No because sub HD games are the thing of the past and newer games require more development time.No they arent...not good ones anyway. were you born in 2000 and dont know any better?
2007 for example:
God of war 2
Half life 2 ep 2
Bioshock
Mass effect
Super mario galaxy
Metroid prime 3
Uncharted
Stalker
Halo3
Modern warfare
Assassins creed
Crysis
Portal
Team fortress 2
Were released in one year. All ambitious titles. 2008 was arguably just as good.
We gettin years like that bro?
A lot of years I reflect upon are times when Mortal Kombat 1-3 were in the arcade, Street Fighter II, and Killer Instinct were the games to play at the arcade and at home. They didn’t really have remakes, but they were the definition of why I liked the fighting game genre. I could put a bookmark on those particular games and why remaking their core was better for the franchise. MK had to go back to their more grounded, before MK4 style because 4 and Deception-Armageddon made big changes, but it wasn’t enough. SFIV went back to its roots and look how big that turned out? Those were tweaks and may not be a good example to start with, but it’s part of my reply.Of course new isn't always better. But constantly remaking old is worse, no? Look at the first list in my op, everything on that list was released in the past 3 or 4 years and most of them are among the highest rated games of their respective years (GTA Trilogy for shame). The Metroid, RE4 and Dead space remakes are already (and will probably stay among) the highest rated games of this year. Think back to your favourite years of gaming - how many remakes were you playing?
They only seem to remake the games that guarantee sales, i.e. the classics. My point is that if this trend continues there's a good chance the best games of 2025 might just be remakes for The Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Journey, MGS V, and Bloodborne remakes (following the 10 year minimum that TLOU remake seems to suggest)
A new MGS would have very little excitement because everyone who cares about MGS knows that Konami doesn't. That's not the case for most franchises. Moving forward is the only way for the industry to survive, swimming in nostalgia will not lead to better games. The classics are always there, we should be looking to surpass them.