CoreyFlawless
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Sea of Thieves on PS5 reveals Microsoft's Trojan Horse to turn millions of PS5 users into Xbox users
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ManaByte
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That doesn't change the fact that you can access Office from any device with a web browser.
ManaByte
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Here's the neat part, if Sony were to release GT7 on anything other than PS5, due to the online PSN account requirement anyone playing that game on whatever device it is could be counted as a PlayStation user.
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
And that doesn't change the fact that most people don't.
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What is your point? That people playing Xbox games are playing Xbox games? I don’t understand why that would be offered as crow. That’s common sense.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
MS fans are moving goalposts faster than MS itself SoT copies on PS5, amazing
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Exactly. An Xbox branded game on a rival console does not turn the people using that rival console into Xbox gamers.
Any situation in which a game that was previously exclusive to one console appears on the direct competitor's console, means that the first console is in a lot of fucking trouble.
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ManaByte
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No but creating an Xbox account and playing a game in that ecosystem does. Which you have to do with Sea of Thieves.
FunkMiller
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Okay, so you're confusing/conflating a piece of hardware with a service.
If you're saying that Sea Of Thieves on Ps5 brings more people into using Microsoft's gaming service - you're absolutely right. But that's the same as anyone using any company's service on a Ps5: Ubi, EA, etc.
Sony still profits from this relationship. And the Xbox as a piece of hardware dies even harder.
This entire thread is basically a discussion about Microsoft's gaming service, and how it probably shouldn't share the name of their failing console brand anymore.
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BennyBlanco
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Kagoshima_Luke
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Don't some EA/Ubi games do this as well? It auto links your 3rd party account and progress/etc is trackable on the 3rd party website.
ManaByte
Gold Member
I never did that. I never mentioned hardware in the OP. People who don't know how to read derailed the thread into hardware stupidity.
I started drinking with breakfast. This thread is perfect for day drinking. Keep the memes coming.A lot of that going around in the videogame industry these days
ManaByte
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If someone is logged into an Xbox account regardless of platform they'll be counted in the MAU number. That's different than subscribers.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Of course you're right. But the Xbox weirdos will act as if this isn't a disingenuous statement by MS when they do misreport their MAU numbers. It's so stupid for Xbox, that they may just lie like this.
phaedrus
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And that’s not even a joke, I just quit the game and move on to something else as soon as a separate account is required. Make your games work on the platforms they’re on.
I was excited to try Elite Dangerous on PS5 recently, until it asked me to setup a "Frontier account" .
GTFO with that, immediately deleted the game.
Yes. That’s right. Wow. This is the megaton right here. Sony is F’d once Starfield is released on PS5 later this year. All part of the master plan. Bwhahahahahaha!
phaedrus
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Come on now, that
ManaByte
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So will this change if\when Xbox has one of their games come out day\date with the PS5 version?
Topher
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Then this is just an absolutely useless thread. Microsoft is a third party publisher on PlayStation. Just like EA is. The fact that you are just now understanding this is the only stupidity here.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Doesn't change the fact that it's now a port and in order to get those extra users, Sony would have had to bring the title to ecosystems other than their own.
It's just kind of dumb to me. Like trying to claim you own an apartment; no you don't, you just rent it. Claiming players of a game on a whole other platform as users of your own platform that's distinctively seen as NOT those other platforms, feels a bit like that.
Exactly.
In fact if/when Microsoft do begin to roll out their next generation of gaming hardware (I'm still expecting this from them), it would probably be a benefit to not use the "Xbox" brand name for those.
Yeah that name still has attachment with some diehards in America and parts of UK, but it's toxic everywhere else. At the very least, somewhat repulsive. Most of the gaming market doesn't have a lot of positive associations with the name "Xbox", not these days. Naming their gaming services & hardware with that would just likely hinder perception.
Yep.
Hey, EA was a big supporter of the 3DO right? Trip Hawkins is from EA. Trip Hawkins made the 3DO Company. The 3DO was a gaming system. The 3DO still technically exists, it physically exists in our reality.
Should EA start stating every PS5 user is a 3DO user? It's kinda true if you think about it 12D chess style
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So basically you're saying Xbox MAUs will not mean anything starting this quarter for MS and their shareholders, right?
ManaByte
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No it doesn't. 3DO went bankrupt in 2003, they sold the hardware tech to Matsushita in 1996. They've been out of the hardware market longer than Sega.
ManaByte
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Yeah but since we're reaching here anyway, why not reach even further?
You literally said:
"On" Xbox. That implies a device to me, like a console. Not a service, otherwise you could just say "in". But we both know Xbox isn't referred to normally as a service; Phil, Sarah etc. never refer to Xbox by name when speaking of a service. It's always when they're speaking about the console hardware. They have a name for their service, it's called Game Pass. It's called Microsoft Account (or whatever that one is called).
So yeah, you definitely implied hardware in the OP, intentional or not. And on that note, the idea just falls apart.
Fredrik
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Ah okay
Tbh I can see where the industry is moving quite clearly, things has been moving in baby steps in the same direction for quite some time. But Xbox console popularity dropped like a rock the last 6 months or so, as a console it’s not thriving at all, so MS is clearly more aggressive right now and pull strings they likely planned to not touch yet. Within a decade or less we’ll play Xbox games on PC, console(s), TVs, cloud, mobile, tablets, and everything will be synced, achievements, playtime, MAU, friendslists, everything.
I wish there were some leaked plans so people don’t get so triggered and think it’s trolling to say how things will likely play out.
ManaByte
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Rebel Moon is on Netflix. Fallout is on Prime Video. Shogun is on Hulu.
phaedrus
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ManaByte
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Topher
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None of those brands have hardware with the same name. "Xbox" does. If they did, you would need to clarify which you were referring to.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Those are services. Everybody knows they are services.
Xbox is a console. Everyone in gaming knows it as a console. That name is mainly associated with console hardware.
There's a...not small difference between the two.
It's actually amazing he is not in fact doing that
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Topher
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Those are services. Everybody knows they are services.
Xbox is a console. Everyone in gaming knows it as a console. That name is mainly associated with console hardware.
There's a...not small difference between the two.
It's actually amazing he is not in fact doing that
Like I said earlier, he is being intentionally ambiguous and then feigning confusion/dismay when someone brings up the hardware. Troll tactics.
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ManaByte
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Nah, it's been this way for a long time. People just don't want to acknowledge it.
Xbox network - Wikipedia
Shake Your Rump
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I am the same way.
And that’s not even a joke, I just quit the game and move on to something else as soon as a separate account is required. Make your games work on the platforms they’re on.
I bought Doom Eternal on PS5. Install and start the game… it won’t even allow me to reach the main menu without a Bethesda account. I deleted the game and immediately returned it for a refund (one of the few benefits of buying from Amazon).
I bought Skyrim Anniversary edition upgrade from Steam. Instead of the anniversary files being installed by Steam, you must login with a Bethesda account to download the upgrade. I immediately filed for a refund.
Hell, I didn’t even bother playing the Crash Bandicoot trilogy despite it being a free PS+ game because you can’t get to the title screen without agreeing to two EULAs, of one which was 26 pages long if I recall correctly.
Topher
Gold Member
Nah, it's been this way for a long time. People just don't want to acknowledge it.
Xbox network - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Xbox network
Xbox Live
Xbox Game Pass
Xbox app
None of those are just "Xbox". That is because the name "Xbox" originated out of the console and that is the base meaning of the word. If you mean something other than the console when saying "Xbox" on this forum or anywhere else then you need to be specific. Pretending all these Xbox tangents can be referred to synomously as "Xbox" is absurd.
ManaByte
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I'm sorry I'll dumb down my posts for people who can't understand there is an Xbox service in the future.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Of course. Adding another 20+ million MAUs won't mean anything to them.
But those new 20+ million MAUs wouldn't be equal to their original 20+ million MAUs that were actual Xbox gamers. How can you not understand this?
Do you also think 10 TFs on a RDNA2 GPU is the same as 10 TFs on a RDNA1 GPU?
ManaByte
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If you're playing a game with an Xbox (or MS dur hur) account you're part of Xbox MAU's. That's how it works. It doesn't matter if you're on a Xbox console, PC, a phone, tablet, PS5, or Switch.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
There's no good point he's made yet. He has a point. A bad talking point.