midnightAI
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About that ...... marketed the game as uncensored. ... you don't understand this at all.
About that ...... marketed the game as uncensored. ... you don't understand this at all.
It's hilarious to see the 'neutral' crowd in this case. They sit in their high seats, mocking both sides and doing nothing constructive regarding this issue. Instead, they make it worse by incessantly bringing up topics unrelated to the matter at hand.Well then I guess I’m a moron because I really don’t think anyone would pay $70 to get fapping material when internet exist.
You think people bought the Dead or Alive games to fap as well? Dragon’s Crown? Tomb Raider? Final Fantasy 7 remake? Or what about mods? You think those who use mods just want to fap?
Or could you see any possibility that people just want to play a great game and think it’s even better when there is some extra eye-candy?
Do folks such as yourself who say this realize that it clearly matters, since someone at the company decided to make the changes? If it didn't matter, we wouldn't have had the changes in the first place.
There's nothing hilarious about the neutral crowd, they're probably the most sane of the lot. You have the developer telling you these are the costumes they wanted in the game and a bunch of people outraged telling them to change their game. The two extremes are as bad as eachother in trying to change what the developer wants to release. It's not even like Stellar blade is a woke game now. It still has cleavage, still has a more visible ass, it has more revealing outfits than what the culture war extremists want changed.It's hilarious to see the 'neutral' crowd in this case. They sit in their high seats, mocking both sides and doing nothing constructive regarding this issue. Instead, they make it worse by incessantly bringing up topics unrelated to the matter at hand.
They forgot to analyze what happens when the 'woke' ideology wins, as it has now occurred with all major Western publications and most of the big ones in Japan too. Let's see how this unfolds in maybe 5 years if this situation persists.
Well then I guess I’m a moron because I really don’t think anyone would pay $70 to get fapping material when internet exist.
You think people bought the Dead or Alive games to fap as well? Dragon’s Crown? Tomb Raider? Final Fantasy 7 remake? Or what about mods? You think those who use mods just want to fap?
Or could you see any possibility that people just want to play a great game and think it’s even better when there is some extra eye-candy?
Saying "they meant the violence" is not fooling anyone.About that ...
Ohhh .. so it was you.which is why I also canceled Gamepass and decided to buy the Xbox games I'm interested in instead.
We absolutely can blame America. American publishers, American platform holders, American culture, pandering to American sensitivities to succeed in the American market. American companies like Blackrock and Vanguard that incentivise certain portrayals of women and alphabet inclusion. This all came out of an American state... California. Your nation likes to take credit for a lot of things but your country owns this woke shit through and through.
This is the dumbest thing I have read today...Still not censorship. And there's worst outfits than the one above.
You're a moron if you think people didn't buy the game to touch themselves. The same ones are complaining censorship like they understand the word.
No, I'm saying when they said uncensored in all regions they meant it as no region specific censorship, ie. Region parity.Saying "they meant the violence" is not fooling anyone.
I would have been more kind if they actually announced the changes. But just like with any other changes that are unpopular, the patch announcement deliberately omitted the bits that they don't want to talk about. The omission implies guilt.
Bg3 has male nudity also.. so the G's are happy therefore all the other letters can consent... is not hard to connect the dots. And probably has same sexual relations possibilities? I didnt play the game so I dont know ... checking boxes is important to this people (by this people I meant crazy twitter woke mob)OOOOOH, since it's an RPG full frontal nudity is OK.
A porn game is a porn game. Stellar Blade is Devil May Cry with extra eye-candy.Steam has full priced porn games. You believe no one, not a single person, is doing that?
You're still not addressing the majority of my argument which is this game doesn't have censorship if the creators changed one aspect of clothing. You can take off your clothes in this game which is the skimpiest suit in the game. So why is anyone complaining? Faux outrage as usual.
A porn game is a porn game. Stellar Blade is Devil May Cry with extra eye-candy.
In short people probably liked the eye-candy that was removed, simple as that.
In a longer explanation one could assume that people are also complaining because of how the industry has changed over the last decade, with past changes like the recent Lara Croft posing posters that was quietly removed through a patch in Tomb Rader trilogy. Might not be censorship this time, but the game is stuck in the line of fire here. They obviously should’ve just added the new costume as a new alternative and left the old one. I assume they’ll do that soon in a patch, they seem to listen to the noise.
And sure there are other costumes but if Polyphony removed some specific sports car, you don’t think some would complain there too even if there are many other sports cars to drive?
Why remove stuff through a patch? It’s always a bad idea imo, doesn’t matter if it’s from censorship or licensing, it’ll never be a popular thing.
That costume was never shown/advertised so they never promised that particular item. They said 30 outfits and we are getting DOUBLE of that, among other many features that usually aren't free.
Customers do a great disservice by not being able to separate the good from the bad.
By the way, Shift Up's CEO has already confirmed that this is THEIR VISION. So, by going against their vision people are literally censoring him, for the sake of "liberty".
Liberty hawks should acknowledge they are doing the dirty job of wokies in this drama. IGN France and Kotaku wouldn't do a better job.
Its only a middle ground position because its extremists that are the ones making all the noise.
When Shift-Up said no censorship they were no doubt talking to major content changes or revisions; for example forcing all blood to be green, whole sequences getting excised, limb removals and decapitations being removed to avoid higher ratings etc. You know, censorship that is/has been imposed in order to release legally in all territories.
Tweaking a couple of costumes and swapping graffiti decals is not significant in the overall context of a game which is trading just as hard on its sexy character lead in both versions!
This was my point about the moral absolutism being a shared trait of both sides. Something that has an equally chilling effect on creativity regardless of which direction its coming from, because bluntly who wants to be dealing with that sort of noise when you've spent years making a game?
The bottom line is really simple; nothing is changing except that instead of one faction of reactionaries playing chicken-little over every issue they can imagine, now we have two! Big win for gaming!
Why?Picture the same controversy if she was black and gay ... same game...same outfits.. same everything.
Bam. Nail on the head. They're gonna be their own worst enemy in this case.
But I guess they got through to Sony because they're offering refunds specifically for 'false advertising'. So we'll see what happens.
Problem is, it’s easy to say it’s their vision but since it can’t be proven that the changes aren’t not coming from Sony, or from doing a world wide uncensored version in countries where this is probably going too far, it’ll end with noise.I agree it's a dumb move and most everything you just said. The outrage is fine. But the rhetoric behind it all is dumb.
Without any proof people are saying Sony forced them to censor it and we're back to "Sony censors everything" crap which isn't true at all. The lie doesn't even make any sense given that you can just take all of your clothes off in the game.
The gore was toned down, something I am more disappointed with. But I'm not calling it censorship. Literally 90% of my original post was about this and people latched onto my little dig. I was also using rhetoric to insult the hurt feels from some weird "gamers" out there.
MK11 got hit with this too and censorship popped up, but no one forced it. They wanted the creative choice to make the females less revealing and people lost their minds. Granted, just like before, it's a very small loud minority screaming. This time trying to say the west doesn't allow beautiful women yet this is the best looking protagonist in gaming history imo.
Again, my argument was mostly about using the term censorship out of its definition. This isn't that.
Or could it be that devs adjusted it so that they could release the same version in all countries?Whether this was Sony’s doing or not, Sony has a reputation and history of censoring things in games that even family friendly Nintendo thought were OK.
So when you have uncensored costumes printed on disc, “adjusted” at the last second in a patch and these adjustments cover up skin, it’s reasonable to assume to somebody at Sony had a last minute freakout.
If this is the case, they can publicly state it this week if they want to. They definitely can’t throw Sony under the bus though.Or could it be that devs adjusted it so that they could release the same version in all countries?
It wouldn't be a controversy... thats the point.Why?
The R rated version of Galaxy Quest was never released. Poor comparison here.One of my favorite movies is censored. Galaxy Quest has a scene where Gwen (Sigourney Weaver) clearly says "fuck that" and they edited it to say "screw that" but you can tell she is actually saying fuck instead of screw.
They’re on the unpatched disc. The patch changes them. That’s censorship.The funny thing is that none of these outfits were shown before. A demo is not the final product and yet people call this censored.
Censorship is just some overused word right now.
Censorship mean imposing your moral, political, or religious views on others by changing content to conform with your moral, political, or religious values.The funny thing is that none of these outfits were shown before. A demo is not the final product and yet people call this censored.
Censorship is just some overused word right now.
If that's the game the developer wanted to release who's being censored exactly?They’re on the unpatched disc. The patch changes them. That’s censorship.
People on Reddit say they’ve been able to get a refund on PSN by claiming it was false advertising.I haven't been following, but isn't this a clear cut case of false advertising?
They’re on the unpatched disc. The patch changes them. That’s censorship.
what exactly was advertised? these outfits weren't really advertised anywhere. You could probably get a refund by saying any old thing but this isn't really any more false advertising than say a gun having its model or stats tweaked in a day one patch compared to an old build that discs were printed from.I haven't been following, but isn't this a clear cut case of false advertising?
Somehow, I doubt there would be people complaining about censorship if it was the other way around, where the patch would make some outfits more revealing. Yes I know some here have mentioned it doesn't matter and will still count as censorship, but that would probably be drowned by people celebrating the changes.If that's the game the developer wanted to release who's being censored exactly?
Go complain about actual censorship like not being able to say the words 'Jellyfish', 'poncho' or 'lmao' if you actually care about censorship.
Wrong. Do your research. They were in the trailers. Guess what? Uncensored. Stop posting spreading misinformation.The funny thing is that none of these outfits were shown before. A demo is not the final product and yet people call this censored.
Censorship is just some overused word right now.
That original tweet has just over 100 likes, in Twitter terms this is next to nothing. Her post has as much relevance as the smallest already extinct insect to the entire universe. No need to argue over her (ridiculous) points.OOOOOH, since it's an RPG full frontal nudity is OK.
You do know censorship isn't an all or nothing thing, right? To use a more well known example that was eventually changed after pushback, DMCV. They didn't cover everyone up in Burkas, but they still actively censored parts of the game. Enforced by Sony themselves, as stated by the devs.If censorship was a thing here. Every fucking outfit would have been censored.
So there is no such thing as censorship in this game.
That literally would not be censorship. Do you know what the word means?Somehow, I doubt there would be people complaining about censorship if it was the other way around, where the patch would make some outfits more revealing. Yes I know some here have mentioned it doesn't matter and will still count as censorship, but that would probably be drowned by people celebrating the changes.
Ok, so what if they released a patch where some outfits had more clothing but some were made more revealing, would that developers vision or censorship then?That literally would not be censorship
Guys, this is super censored, I can't believe Sony did this:
It’s a video game.Shift Up said the game would be released uncensored worldwide ---> The game shows signs of censorship patched in day 1 ---> People are mad about this and feel they were misled/lied to.
It's not about how slight the changes are, it's the principle.
This isn't complicated.
Ohhh .. so it was you.
If you don't care that great, no need waste your time in this thread.It’s a video game.
This isn’t that serious.
So was the horse armour...it was just dlc...now look at the shit the industry is in.MTX everywhere,battlepasses,pay to win,lootboxes. "It's not that serious"It’s a video game.
This isn’t that serious.