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What bothers me more than anything about the hardware/tech itself is the lack of official word on whether or not the system is region locked.
Is there any reason to expect this to be not region locked?
What bothers me more than anything about the hardware/tech itself is the lack of official word on whether or not the system is region locked.
I'm not so sure. When there are multiplatform games. There's going to be a lot of talk comparing the minute differences between the three.
Given NoA's shitty track record for bringing games over, there's no way they can sell me a U unless it's $100 or less if it's region locked like the wii.Is there any reason to expect this to be not region locked?
Am I the only gaffer who is sick and tired of hearing Wii-U tech talk?
I'm not so sure. When there are multiplatform games. There's going to be a lot of talk comparing the minute differences between the three.
Am I the only gaffer who is sick and tired of hearing Wii-U tech talk?
Yes, and since the Wii U appears to be more in-between graphical generations compared to the Wii, you can expect some more head-to-head comparisons. Not only to the PS4 and Durango, but to the 360, PS3, Vita, future iPads, and PC.
Dude, we will never know the full extent of what the WiiU can and can't do, what Nintendo can squeeze out of it. 3DS tech talk is still abundant. We won't stop hearing tech talk, ever.
Sorry but no. WiiU is maybe just a tad better the PS360. In fact, there will be games that will still perform better on PS360 then WiiU due to the relatively slow CPU used.
I don't expect to be any multiplatform games on PS4 and Durango and will appear only on WiiU because of it's technical ability.
Well, on exception to this is Kid Icarus, which is very original and full of ideas; while it uses an established character, it is basically a reboot of the entire premise and creates a fully fleshed out universe. It also has original play mechanics.
However, the portable scene could be suffering from the same general malaise as the entire industry, that is true I think. There are not a lot of chances being take on entirely new IP and/or unusual and inventive ideas. There are a few games to watch out for on 3DS like Code of Princess from Atlus.
Am I the only gaffer who is sick and tired of hearing Wii-U tech talk?
This is only because the specs haven't been detailed yet. Once they are, this talk will shift over to something else, like how Nintendo failed or participated comparably in the current gen/mid-gen war.
I need to explain this further to let this clear out a bit.
The talk will probaly shift only for some people who aren't pushing the tech talk them selfs, I can confirm to you this will be the case for most of those guys who were discussing it since speculation threads.
I am a tech guy, when we know full specs, i won't shift anyone, I talk about tech, that's what I like, i don't talk about anything else much, a few exeptions here and there.
You may see the result as a shift because those people who normally don't talk about it won't be pulled into the discussion, but it won't really happen for all those who brought the information of tech.
As a matter of fact, I will go elsewhere to discuss tech about something else that comes up. I won't shift my primary talk at all, just re-locate to another topic of tech, whatever, maybe by the time we're done here those freaking IDTech5 mod tools would be released ...
I registered on this forum just because of WiiU (but not limited to) tech talk.
I there's nothing about tech to talk about, i don't talk at all.
I need to explain this further to let this clear out a bit.
The talk will probaly shift only for some people who aren't pushing the tech talk them selfs, I can confirm to you this will be the case for most of those guys who were discussing it since speculation threads.
I am a tech guy, when we know full specs, i won't shift anyone, I talk about tech, that's what I like, i don't talk about anything else much, a few exeptions here and there.
You may see the result as a shift because those people who normally don't talk about it won't be pulled into the discussion, but it won't really happen for all those who brought the information of tech.
As a matter of fact, I will go elsewhere to discuss tech about something else that comes up. I won't shift my primary talk at all, just re-locate to another topic of tech, whatever, maybe by the time we're done here those freaking IDTech5 mod tools would be released ...
I registered on this forum just because of WiiU (but not limited to) tech talk.
I there's nothing about tech to talk about, i don't talk at all.
Please stop with your "facts". We know nothing yet. Just rumors and speculations.
Sorry but no. WiiU is maybe just a tad better the PS360. In fact, there will be games that will still perform better on PS360 then WiiU due to the relatively slow CPU used.
The ongoing system specs information so far leaked is zeroing on a tight and consistent performance range of WiiU. Nothing so far points to it being a powerhouse or indeed, being anywhere near a order of magnitude better then the current HD twins.
"I Tech Talk, Deal With It !"
And the funniest part is yet to come, when we'll be able to compare the tech of different systems.
"Oh look, X is so much stronger than Y for theoretical calculation, geometry, etc, but Y is more efficient for textures, however, it lacks of this exotic feature of Z which is pretty interesting !"
The ongoing system specs information so far leaked is zeroing on a tight and consistent performance range of WiiU.
Nothing so far points to it being a powerhouse or indeed, being anywhere near a order of magnitude better then the current HD twins.
I hope you're joking. I find it funny to read, because it's basically guys trying to show other guys how much they (think they) know about console hardware.. some even completely ignore that and list whatever retail pc component they feel would do the job better.. but the point is neither side know anything, yet they argue like they know everything.
Can't wait to play the games.
How do you accept a fact that isn't a fact? You've been saying the exact same fucking thing over and over again, it's not going to make this any more true now than it did in the past.Right now I've accepted that Wii U will be on par with PS3/360 tech wise.
The ongoing system specs information so far leaked is zeroing on a tight and consistent performance range of WiiU. Nothing so far points to it being a powerhouse or indeed, being anywhere near a order of magnitude better then the current HD twins.
Man when this system launches a lot of people are going to eat crow.
Man when this system launches a lot of people are going to eat crow.
We haven't talked "to death" of the awesome potential of Wii U panorama view for food ...
So basically, you elect to believe the sources that say the things you want to hear, and dismiss the sources that say things you don't want to hear. This is how these Wii U threads work, right?If you have actually been keeping up with the rumors then you would know thats exactly what it is.
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Sorry but no. WiiU is maybe just a tad better the PS360. In fact, there will be games that will still perform better on PS360 then WiiU due to the relatively slow CPU used.
I don't expect to be any multiplatform games on PS4 and Durango and will appear only on WiiU because of it's technical ability.
Sorry but no. WiiU is maybe just a tad better the PS360. In fact, there will be games that will still perform better on PS360 then WiiU due to the relatively slow CPU used.
I don't expect to be any multiplatform games on PS4 and Durango and will appear only on WiiU because of it's technical ability.
People from both sides of the fence believe what they want to hear.So basically, you elect to believe the sources that say the things you want to hear, and dismiss the sources that say things you don't want to hear. This is how these Wii U threads work, right?
Me, I believe in physics. Which means I'm reasonably confident that the GPU will draw less than 40W.
If you have actually been keeping up with the rumors then you would know thats exactly what it is.
From what we've heard from BG and IM specifically say 1.5 is the minimum as far as ram. 3 times more than the 360 (and faster you can be assured),
32MB EDRAM (3.2 times more than the 360), a modern GPU, and a CPU based on new architecture that most people don't understand so they
immediately act like they can directly compare it to PS3 360, which is absurd.
Not to mention the dedicated audio DSP, (audio eats tons of resources on 360 games), and the OoOE capabilities of the CPU alone will allow for MUCH
more efficient processing.
What people don't understand is you can't simply compare the numbers directly or compare them at all without having knowledge of how the system works.
Nintendo loves to create incredibly balanced systems that use the absolute most out of their hardware.
When creating the Gamecube it was pretty much Nintendo's mission to create a system that had no bottlenecks, something that is very easy to do on the 360.
They still have this philosophy when creating systems, and it will pay off with the choices they have made.
Man when this system launches a lot of people are going to eat crow.
Is there any reason to expect this to be not region locked?
May I please help talk this to death with you? Or at least talk it to a career-ending injury?
And since we seem to be the only ones interested in VR-type applications of the gamepad, may I appeal to you again for an answer to this question I posed a couple of days ago??
And for the rest of you guys, it's still tech talk. Really!
When it launches? I think you mean a year or two after launch, as I don't think anybody is suggesting that the launch lineup demonstrates how awesome the hardware is.
Sorry but no.
That is all.
No, you are wrong. A couple dudes in a forum have declared Nintendos new console to be poorly crafted weak junk. This is probably due to the fact that the engineers that work for them are incredibly uneducated and lazy, and they were probably hired by drawing straws and not ability. Everyone knows how lazy, uneducated, and undedicated the engineers that work for Japans multi billionaire electronics companies are.
You want tech savvy brilliance, you must consult dudes in forums.
Skyrim was limited to 2GB on PC, a lot of games go this route... that is even pushing the 1080p and even 1600p resolutions that some people play at, a lower resolution does require less ram, so as long as "next gen" doesn't exceed 720p for the majority of games, 2GB should be more than enough.
Think of it this way, currently PS3 uses 256MB ram and a separate pool of faster 256MB ram, it's very limited ram wise, using 1024MB ram is a very noticeable increase, especially considering that the bandwidth should also increase, allowing less need for a buffer (larger ram) and Wii U likely is using at least this for games, in fact it could be using over 1536MB of ram while holding to 720p or 1080p resolutions, just as the PS3/360 have been doing for the last 7 years.
PCs however mostly limit their system memory usage to 2GBs (likely in order to not bog down the system)
AAA budget games made the port easy between PCs and 360, even though the 360 has 1/4th that amount of ram (without even touching the PC's GPU video memory that has in large part been at least 1GB ram for the last 5 years) So where exactly is the worry with Wii U? anyone who truly understands these numbers can see that at 720p, even 1GB shouldn't hinder a game unless it's poorly coded.
You are a fad...along with all the other " Nintendo doomers" out there. I rolled my eyes so hard they got stuck in the back of my head for a moment...
Right now I've accepted that Wii U will be on par with PS3/360 tech wise. Maybe it's marginally stronger, I don't really give a shit. It's not worth the headache to talk/argue about it.
I just want games.
When it launches? I think you mean a year or two after launch, as I don't think anybody is suggesting that the launch lineup demonstrates how awesome the hardware is.
I don't expect to be any multiplatform games on PS4 and Durango and will appear only on WiiU because of it's technical ability.
Hmm.
This is an interesting claim. Would you like to bet on it?
"No game will appear in the same form on Wii U and PS4/Nextbox" should be pretty cut and dry.
Given that he didn't honor his bet when it came to WiiU is on par with PS360 claim, what makes you think he would do another bet or stay to it?
He's pointing to physical HW inspection as well as developer interviews. That will give us much more detailed info from which we can calculate equivalents and hopefully as accurate estimations.
A game being, content-wise, the same on Wii U as other systems should not be difficult to judge.
It will help, but there will still be a massive element of guesswork as there will be so much custom stuff in there. No matter what is found in there, people will still be saying the hardware is garbage/has immeasurable untapped power, and it'll still be very hard to prove them wrong.
Surely every game on the Wii U will, by definition, have extra content simply because of the stuff happening on the extra screen.
Plus, it's a pretty long-term bet for him don't you think? This generation will probably last somewhere close to ten years, and he won't be able to claim victory until the very last Wii U game is released!