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Hideki Kamiya annoyed on twitter, tells fanboy to use his own brain
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Nobody should.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Parodying expectations by actually met this expectations...
I don't buy it.
I don't know who this AnnoyedGamer is, and seems it's not important that I ever find out.
the way it should be
Bubble Metropolis
Member
Foreigner by itself isn't necessarily bad. Saying "Hey, my friend Bill his a foreigner." is completely harmless.
But saying 'you stupid fucking foreigners'
Edit: Tempering the 'history of complaining about 'foreigners' part until I flip through his Twilog. I just remember glancing over such tweets in the past, but I may be remembering incorrectly.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Does a segment on Gametrailer, kinda like Pachter thang..they're friends as well =/
http://www.gametrailers.com/shows/annoyed-gamer/
I see what you did there.
KillerTravis
Banned
I'm sure Kamiya is crying a river because he lost his coverage. Poor man.
Stop overreacting. His comment was neither xenophobic, racist, or whatever you want to classify it as, because he was not being serious or saying with harmful intent.
Stop making a big deal out of a joke. I'm not dismissing xenophobia as a major issue in Japan, from what I've heard it is. I'm just saying that this particular tweet is nowhere near as malicious as the words "racist" and "xenophobic" would imply.
StreetsAhead
Member
He said some stupid fucking foreigners, and by all accounts there were some stupid fucking foreigners.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Sounds as important as luke plunkett to be honest.
So is it OK to call people lazy fucking spics if they're Hispanic and lazing about?
I don't know who the AnnoyedGamer is, but at least now I know to avoid him.
Terrible comparison.
StreetsAhead
Member
There's a difference between 外人 and spic.
I can't speak for previously, but the foreigner comment in this situation didn't give me any pause because the entire controversy is around an article using Kamiya as a poster boy to explain the way people in the mystical Eastern land of Japan think about PC gaming to the non-Japanese audience. So the people getting cranky about Kamiya's apathy towards PC gaming and Valve are going to be non-Japanese and so foreigners. More specifically, stupid foreigners believing Kotaku's article is a decent piece on the monolithic view of those wacky Japanese devs on PC Gaming.
Not even comparable. And are you really justifying that dumb Kotaku article?
Kacho
Member
Oh no! What will Platinum Games do without Marcus covering their games?
What a joke. Way to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Riposte
Member
It was xenophobic in so far it is expected of someone put up the extra patience required when dealing rude American (or whereever) tweeters (is that the noun?) so as to treat everyone with equal respect. At the same time I can't blame him if he decides he won't be answering any english tweets for the next few hours, as he has done in the past. Brings back memories of FFXI: JP Onry.
EDIT: Funny enough, I actually get the feeling Kamiya might be an anglophile. It would explain some aspects of Bayonetta if nothing else.
EDIT: Funny enough, I actually get the feeling Kamiya might be an anglophile. It would explain some aspects of Bayonetta if nothing else.
Kamiya was responding to this tweet in full (it was shortened in his response due to character limit):
https://twitter.com/ondgaku/status/288732948419731457
In context it doesn't appear to be sarcasm at all.
Obviously he doesn't believe all 'foreigners' are idiots, it just happens to only be English speakers that are tweeting him stupid crap all the time.
(had to censor due to work filter)
How many people here actually read that Kotaku article? I think it made some good points about specifically why PC gaming isn't popular in Japan and a lot of it is because publishers don't bother to localize their products for the market. That's definitely not blaming Japan for anything.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah but we haven't blacklisted it yet.
He's going to clean with Rain and drink Windex right?
Going off on people by calling them idiots is great. Going off on people by being racist isn't.
Read the article, doesn't justify the crappy headline.
Good points meaning inaccurate or outdated points backed up with nothing? ok
Bubble Metropolis
Member
I just don't know where you're getting him using the term 'stupid fucking foreigner' a half a dozen times, several times directly to a person, as being a joke. What're you basing that on? Him ending it with 'Satisfied?' the one time he used the phrase in English?
Imagine he isn't Japanese for a moment.
Dion Blaster
Member
"Do you eat shit?"
This is the best twitter feed ever. Can't stop laughing.
This is the best twitter feed ever. Can't stop laughing.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Seriously, dude?
Kacho
Member
What race??
Box of Bunnies
Banned
They're both mixers for a cocktail. KAMIya parties hard.
This isn't the place to be discussing the article really, so for the sake of argument I will say you're right and it's totally inaccurate.
Even if that's the case it doesn't make it OK for the man to post shit like that.
Marcus Beer is a freelance writer and opinionist. The Producer and co-host of 'Invisible Walls' on Gametrailers.com and NBC LA's resident Gaming expert. He has also handled the PR for several notable game companies in the US and UK before returning to journalism.
compared to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya
I mean, I get Marcus Beer is equally as opinionated as Hideki Kamiya, but he aint got shit on the guy. Seriously one actually had his hand in developing very memorable games, while occasionally posting something hilarious on Twitter, and the other is trying to craft an internet personality by being mad on Gametrailers podcasts and did the PR circuit on a handful of forgettable games.
Please. Marcus is a joke.
compared to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideki_Kamiya
I mean, I get Marcus Beer is equally as opinionated as Hideki Kamiya, but he aint got shit on the guy. Seriously one actually had his hand in developing very memorable games, while occasionally posting something hilarious on Twitter, and the other is trying to craft an internet personality by being mad on Gametrailers podcasts and did the PR circuit on a handful of forgettable games.
Please. Marcus is a joke.
Karsticles
Member
I could make better points by throwing darts blindfolded.
This has half-changed my mind. I'm hardly offended, but there is a bit more to it than I was seeing. Still not a big deal.
Indeed, this pretty new thread worthy.
Absolutely. Shall we appease EviLore?
Riposte
Member
I don't know if you can say he was being racist. Obviously there is a grey area there when he decides he'll be speaking Japanese and vents frustration over English tweets.
I think they used to be.
I'm going to bed soon. Someone just make it!
So saying it in Japanese makes it not racist?
Yeah, becoming the leader of all Japan coming off being a mere game director is pretty threadworthy!
call_kotaku
Member
Thank god Kamiya isn't running for office?
We really need someone to program a Kamiya twitter bot. Just mix a combination of "eat shit", "your mom", "ask capcom", some stuff about foreigners, links to old tweets that are links to older tweets, and occasionally a tweet that's only a smiley face.
Can't be that hard...
Oh come on we make threads for every tiny controversy. This one features everyone most favorite developer vs the infamous Kotaku.
Yeah, but if it was a politician would people really think, it isn't racist at all. Today someone likable said it, hence the defense force. Honestly that Fez guy got so much bullshit and you're going to let Kamiya slide?
Riposte
Member
What did he say in Japanese that deserves to be perceived as racist in the first place?
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