KimonoNoNo
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For "broad" I read "compromised".So much generosity with language. Their focus is more "broad." Lol.
Price please.
Sony go for the jugular and undercut them on price also, will complete the circle from PS3 to X360.
For "broad" I read "compromised".So much generosity with language. Their focus is more "broad." Lol.
Price please.
"Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4"
PS4 will be even bigger.
I doubt it will be bigger than the launch PS3. I still have one. Shit is fucking HUUUUUGE.
Haaa shit, would it be the reason they didn't show it in first place ?
In other words, multiplats will target XBone but look better on PS4 and Sony exclusives will stomp everything.
Adding up every number isn't how it works :/people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
Specs didn't matter In any of the previous generations. consoles will be judge on the games they have and don't have.
Fixed that for truth.Me personally? PS4 obviously.
Me as the CEO of a multimillion dollar company? Whatever system takes the lead in sales and then port accordingly.
OMG people are already starting to aggregate the bandwidth.... I guess mission accomplished by MS
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
what the list doesn't take into account is kinect. whether we like it or not it is now a component of the Xbone and there seems to be a lot of tech in there too (a lot more than PSeye).
diverting some of their resources to kinect tech might explain why they've compromised on some of the innerds of the box itself.
Haaa shit, would it be the reason they didn't show it in first place ?
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
I doubt it will be bigger than the launch PS3. I still have one. Shit is fucking HUUUUUGE.
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
Tim Stevens 2:25 PM
[41548] Nick is saying that "to get all of this processing out of the box" is a challenge too.The new CPU core can do six CPU operations per core per cycle, on an eight-core CPU.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-architecture-panel-liveblog/
via http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62867&page=133
Don't dismiss the ESRam. In the post show they said they have 200 GB/sec bandwidth
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
Neither look stand out to me. And I'm sure they'll both be eclipsed by PC promptly. Nothing I've seen from either so far is especially impressive. I imagine PS4 will be the Xbox to the Xbox One's PS2.
I don't know much about the numbers, but they aren't substantially better than Xbox One.
It looks like a 20% or so increase on paper.
But in actuality isn't it similar to the difference between a GTX 660 and a GTX 670?
Basically that there is a factual difference, but its really rather mild?
Neither look stand out to me. And I'm sure they'll both be eclipsed by PC promptly. Nothing I've seen from either so far is especially impressive. I imagine PS4 will be the Xbox to the Xbox One's PS2.
Thanks Gamespot.
Both have been eclipsed by PC's already... at least a year ago.
Do SoC's mean lower prices than last gen?
I don't know much about the numbers, but they aren't substantially better than Xbox One.
It looks like a 20% or so increase on paper.
But in actuality isn't it similar to the difference between a GTX 660 and a GTX 670?
Basically that there is a factual difference, but its really rather mild?
Thanks Gamespot.
50% GPU advantage plus the RAM advantage is 20% increase on paper? What am I missing?
Sorry, should I be thinking the PS4 is going to completely blow away the Xbox One? Because that's realistic? I'm sure it'll be more powerful. I doubt it'll be a huge, substantial difference.
the ESRAMS thingy
I don't know much about the numbers, but they aren't substantially better than Xbox One.
It looks like a 20% or so increase on paper.
But in actuality isn't it similar to the difference between a GTX 660 and a GTX 670?
Basically that there is a factual difference, but its really rather mild?
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s
I don't know much about the numbers, but they aren't substantially better than Xbox One.
It looks like a 20% or so increase on paper.
But in actuality isn't it similar to the difference between a GTX 660 and a GTX 670?
Basically that there is a factual difference, but its really rather mild?
Where are you getting that? GPU-wise it's a 50% increase in the most prominent spec.I don't know much about the numbers, but they aren't substantially better than Xbox One.
It looks like a 20% or so increase on paper.
Tim Stevens 2:25 PM
[41548] Nick is saying that "to get all of this processing out of the box" is a challenge too.The new CPU core can do six CPU operations per core per cycle, on an eight-core CPU.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-architecture-panel-liveblog/
via http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=62867&page=133
Don't dismiss the ESRam. In the post show they said they have 200 GB/sec bandwidth
In other words, multiplats will target XBone but look better on PS4 and Sony exclusives will stomp everything.
The peeples at Anandtech forgot dah secret sauce - CLOUD COMPUTAH
I wasn't "getting" anything anywhere. I'm just asking to better understand the differences.Where are you getting that? GPU-wise it's a 50% increase in the most prominent spec.
Where are you getting that? GPU-wise it's a 50% increase in the most prominent spec.
anyway can't wait for E3
No confirmations of course, but since all the other leaks turned out true, I think it's rather likely. That would even be a 100% difference in fillrate.Did the ROP's stay the same? 16 for XB1 and 32 for PS4?
Well, you have to have arrived at the 20% number somehow - that's what I meant.I wasn't "getting" anything anywhere. I'm just asking to better understand the differences.
You should be thinking with your brain instead of your heart!
There wont be extra cost due to how similar they are. PS4 as target simply because it's more poweful makes far too much sense for a multimillion dollar company.
people forget the ESRAM, didn't they say this will give them 200 GB/s?
200 GB/s > 176 GB/s