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XBOX ONE Reveal: UI faked from the start. Very choppy, and CBoaT

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This gif seems to slow down the amount of time i takes for the snap-sidebar to appear, almost twice as long actually than in the video.

It's sstill choppy but doesn't take that long to load.

Yeah, it's 5 fps choppy.
 
so fucking what?

a demo of a product that isnt anywhere near final, not working as snappy, stagged demo during presentation to demonstrate how it will work when all the kinks are worked out. sue them.

using a gif to prove a point, seriously gtfo.

Lmao. The "TV" on the side is running at such a low FPS they might as well used a PowerPoint presentation.
 
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Deleted member 8095

Unconfirmed Member
They're going to have to demo this again at E3, right? I don't mean on stage, but press demos? It'll be interesting to see how it runs there.
 

CLEEK

Member
It's still a little embarrassing, and it's probably not smart to allow video like that out to your target audience, us, who they must know will pick it apart and come to unfavourable conclusions, whether well-founded or not.

Magnus thinks the Xbox One's target audience is GAF / gamers. How cute!

As for the faking in general, I see no reason why the finished product would suffer from this. I mean, displaying a smooth thumbnail stream is hardly computationally taxing. The Xbone has plenty of non-gaming resources assigned which would make something like this relatively trivial.
 

Rapstah

Member
The Xbox One is going to be in a position to integrate with more consumers who have satellite/cable than the Comcast X1 will. That's a safe bet.

Whose idea was it to name this console the Xbox One in a world where there is a DVR box called the "XFINITY X1"? I didn't even know.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
It's shitty as hell, but it'll be cleaned up by launch almost certainly.


However, the exchange:

"I don't know the channel, what can I do?"

"Channel 13!"

What?

Man: I want to watch football! Where is it?

Girl: No problem! Xbox, channel 13.

/Jerry Springer
 
The Xbox One is going to be in a position to integrate with more consumers who have satellite/cable than the Comcast X1 will. That's a safe bet.

Yes. I'm not really arguing the X1 is going to take down the Xbox One. (The name similarity is pretty funny) What I'm saying is that we should expect cable boxes in a couple of years to have this as a normal feature. When that happens, the Xbox One loses what makes it special.
 

Takuya

Banned
and what is your agenda exactly?

Yes there is no guarantee the OS will improve but if you look at the history of first announced OS's/GAMES/CONSOLES it would be illogical to think it wont improve.

It's one thing for it to improve, which, by all means, unless they're incompetent, it will..But it's another thing to say this:

Noticed this the day the video came out

I'am sure it will be as smooth as butter come release.

I dont know why anyone would think otherwise.
 

Portugeezer

Member
That GIF is deceptive. When she says "go home" it goes to the Bing search screen off camera. The perceived delay is from her issuing another vocal command that's visually off camera.

The OS itself looks sluggish, regardless of how deceptive the gif may be (though he provided a link to the video, I don't think he was trying to mislead).

Dat 3GB reserved memory.
 
Yes. I'm not really arguing the X1 is going to take down the Xbox One. (The name similarity is pretty funny) What I'm saying is that we should expect cable boxes in a couple of years to have this as a normal feature. When that happens, the Xbox One loses what makes it special.

It loses what makes it special only if it doesn't eventually add anything new. Why do you think they want more original programming on One like that Halo series? So that you turn on your xbox right after the TV. You assume that theyll just launch the console and sit on their ass for 7 years. If 360 is any indication, itll be completely different in that time.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
The build is not 7 months old. She says "so obviously this is a early build.....we've come a super long way in 7 months, you're not even gonna believe what you see when we ship."

I'm not sure why there's so many apologists in this thread. The REAL TV UI is slow and choppy and looks like shit right now. What they showed at the event was disingenuous and fake. Sure, it's going to be better when they ship, that doesn't mean we can't judge how shitty it works at the moment. When they prove that it will be as smooth as it was when they faked it, I'll believe them.
 
Yes. I'm not really arguing the X1 is going to take down the Xbox One. (The name similarity is pretty funny) What I'm saying is that we should expect cable boxes in a couple of years to have this as a normal feature. When that happens, the Xbox One loses what makes it special.

Ya, it is pretty funny that it's called the X1. I already addressed what you're saying. I'll say it again.

How often do people swap out cable boxes though? How often is it free? How likely is it that every service is going to do it and all 100 million of those people are going to get new boxes?

It doesn't matter if those features become normal on newer boxes, you still have the issues above about distribution of it. People are much more unlikely to upgrade their cable box than they are to buy a game system and take advantage of a feature gained by it. The TV functionality is a perk, not something anyone is going to buy an Xbox 360 exclusively for.
 

Jomjom

Banned
Your receiver is essentially a centralized box that you tunnel everything through to utilize for multiple purposes. Why is it okay there, but suddenly with the Xbox One, nobody would ever want that?

I don't know about most people but people I know, including myself, who have receivers do because we demand extremely high quality video and audio. We drop thousands on top of the line receivers because they are dedicated devices for handing that. There is no way in hell a <$400 device that plays games as its main function will be anywhere close to even the worst receivers on the market. That is why.
 
The woman in the video clearly states that its abvery early build. Calm down people.

Are we allowed to critique ANYTHING on the Xbone, then?

Every time something is revealed that's negative about it (EVERYTHING), the response is "wait until it comes out, it'll be fine then". That's 5 months away. And I doubt much will change.
 

JaggedSac

Member
Yes. I'm not really arguing the X1 is going to take down the Xbox One. (The name similarity is pretty funny) What I'm saying is that we should expect cable boxes in a couple of years to have this as a normal feature. When that happens, the Xbox One loses what makes it special.

So you're saying this makes the XBone special?
 

watership

Member
The woman in the video clearly states that its abvery early build. Calm down people.

Logic and reason do not belong here. This is an XO thread. It could have had "THIS SOFTWARE IS AN EARLY BUILD" in huge white letters over the screen through the whole time and it would still be "Fuck Microsoft"
 
If anything I think this is confirmation, or at least a strong suggestion, that X1 will come out in the later part of this year near the holidays. Instead of some surprise September release or something.
 

Mrbob

Member
I loved the leading question:

"What if I want to watch Monday Night Football and don't know what channel ESPN is on?"

Really?
 
I don't know about most people but people I know, including myself, who have receivers do because we demand extremely high quality video and audio. We drop thousands on top of the line receivers because they are dedicated devices for handing that. There is no way in hell a <$400 device that plays games as its main function will be anywhere close to even the worst receivers on the market. That is why.

Look, I've got a high end setup for the reasons you outlined. My point is, the device is used to centralize functionality to streamline the setup. I funnel everything through the receiver because I don't want to have to change inputs on the receiver and the TV separately. It streamlines that connectivity. I don't expect the Xbox One to replace a receiver. I do expect it to streamline the setup with better integration.
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
So much fear mongering in this thread. It will be smooth as butter when it launches. 6 months later when they update it... THEN it will be a choppy mess.
 
Are we allowed to critique ANYTHING on the Xbone, then?

Every time something is revealed that's negative about it (EVERYTHING), the response is "wait until it comes out, it'll be fine then". That's 5 months away. And I doubt much will change.

This is why i believe that MS should just do like Sony from now on. Just tease something, then stay quiet for months on end. Theres really no point in showing unfinished products if all it will ever get you is comments on how not final it looks. No point whatsoever.
 
It loses what makes it special only if it doesn't eventually add anything new. Why do you think they want more original programming on One like that Halo series? So that you turn on your xbox right after the TV. You assume that theyll just launch the console and sit on their ass for 7 years. If 360 is any indication, itll be completely different in that time.

I don't have high expectations from their TV programming creators.
 
Ya, it is pretty funny that it's called the X1. I already addressed what you're saying. I'll say it again.

How often do people swap out cable boxes though? How often is it free? How likely is it that every service is going to do it and all 100 million of those people are going to get new boxes?

It doesn't matter if those features become normal on newer boxes, you still have the issues above about distribution of it. People are much more unlikely to upgrade their cable box than they are to buy a game system and take advantage of a feature gained by it. The TV functionality is a perk, not something anyone is going to buy an Xbox 360 exclusively for.

The same question can be asked about the Xbox One. How often do people (not gamers) buy gaming consoles? How often are gaming consoles free? I think it would be cheaper to up your cable bill a few bucks a month and get a new cable box than to drop $400 on a new console.
 

RayMaker

Banned
Most recent launch AND you didn't say "Well, if you ignore the Wii U" lol

Oh right, so lets forget all the other consoles/OS's/GAMES?

and just because the wiiu was launched most recently how does that make your point any more viable.


that's like saying 10% of the evidence supports scenario A but 90% supports scenario B, but lest go with the 10% because it fits my agenda/opinion.

very logical indeed.
 

Jomjom

Banned
Look, I've got a high end setup for the reasons you outlined. My point is, the device is used to centralize functionality to streamline the setup. I funnel everything through the receiver because I don't want to have to change inputs on the receiver and the TV separately. It streamlines that connectivity. I don't expect the Xbox One to replace a receiver. I do expect it to streamline the setup with better integration.

I understand what you are saying, but your original question is why aren't people ok with the Xbox One doing it when they are ok with receivers doing it. The fact is though that the Xbox One won't really be doing what receivers do at all. It can't centralize everything because it won't have enough ports for one simple reason, forget the quality at which it would even do it.

So basically what you get is not a device that centralizes, but really just another link in the chain that isn't necessary. Basically if you are going to do something half-assed, don't do it at all.
 
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