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make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I'm terribly vexed.
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TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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I'm terribly vexed.
JetBlackPanda
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Why would they ever officially state this?
QuantumBro
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NullPointer
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24fps
Everything negative about XBone seems to be ultimatly caused by the broadened scope of the platform and the abandonment of gaming as the primary focus. This explains the hate XBone is getting. It's not just the bad facts, it's the (from a gamer's perspective) stupid cause of these facts.
PlanetSmasher
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It's really not looking good for Microsoft right now.
Is it just me, or do I hear a Cloister Bell ringing? I almost feel like if the XBone is this bad off, MS must have bribed the shit out of a ton of third parties to keep their games away from PS4. With the shape the system is in right now, they can't possibly feel optimistic about the strength of their platform on its own merits. It's mind-boggling.
Is it just me, or do I hear a Cloister Bell ringing? I almost feel like if the XBone is this bad off, MS must have bribed the shit out of a ton of third parties to keep their games away from PS4. With the shape the system is in right now, they can't possibly feel optimistic about the strength of their platform on its own merits. It's mind-boggling.
In what magical world does a company come out with a press release telling everyone they had to downclock their console's speed because of production problems? If you wait for the game company to explicitly announce that they messed up before you believe it, then I guess you haven't believed much since home gaming began.
lies. unless you mean bluray - then great.
SuperEpicGuy
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And its RROD all over again.
Aw, hell no. Then again it's a TV experience as movies are 24fps.
I don't think there's any way for them not to. Right? Don't they have to confirm the specs at some point?
>>yes, i'm a noob when it comes to this stuff, so please understand my lack of understanding.
Fox Mulder
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Well if you can't carry anything but achievements and friends lists over to the new BC-less consoles, then who really cares?
MS busted their ass to get the 360 were it is, but a lot of their success came from Sony completely fucking up the launch of the ps3 and killing their momentum from two straight generations. If MS can launch the Xbone with great games and a nice price, they should be able to keep momentum rolling into a new gen.
PlanetSmasher
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They don't have to ANNOUNCE the specs if they don't want to. But eventually, someone will crack one open and find out what's inside.
So cinematic!
TacticalFox88
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Okay, this post made me fucking lose it. hahaha
Factually proving stories... Sigh, I think this proves my point to where this has escalated to.
Yeah I am canceling my auto-renew as of now. We will see if they bust out some rad shit at e3...
Honestly that rumor does not hold up. If it is true then this is borderline "huston, we have a problem" situation.
At this point, I'm only waiting for someone to reveal that Crazy Buttocks is in fact Michael Pachter. That would be an awesome mindfuck.
16-year-old me thought the PS2 was the best thing in the world. How times have changed.
You think they'll officially state they have ESRAM issues? Purposefully give themselves bad press?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
NullPointer
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Right. Its a feature ;P
Goes right alongside their thinking in making the console dimensions 16:9
Rising_Hei
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It won't play bluray, correct me if i'm wrong
TrojanBlade
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Can someone with knowledge of how 3rd parties work answer this:
Since now we know that X1 is pretty much less powerful than the PS4, can the 3rd party devs make the PS4 version better in everyway they can? Can MS tie their hand down and ask them not to do that? After seeing all this, I will be pissed if PS4 version of multi games are same as the X1 version when in reality they should be closer to the PC version.
Since now we know that X1 is pretty much less powerful than the PS4, can the 3rd party devs make the PS4 version better in everyway they can? Can MS tie their hand down and ask them not to do that? After seeing all this, I will be pissed if PS4 version of multi games are same as the X1 version when in reality they should be closer to the PC version.
Canis lupus
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Who said the 15 exclusives would all be shown at e3?
Respect Microsoft for not forgetting about GamesCom!
Yeah more like " i didn't read OP"
nailbombxx
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Jack of all trades, competent at none.
PS4 is essentially the same architecture but better in every way. The same code will likely run faster on PS4 without developers even having to make the effort. However yes, further optimisations may not happen but this is where Sony first party comes in. Eventually third party developers will have to compete with Sony first party so this will force them to optimise for PS4.
dragonelite
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Wow will this go into gaming history on how not to launch a console.
Not sure if WiiU pr is better or Xboned pr
Not sure if WiiU pr is better or Xboned pr
And I truly believe that is literally what MS would have to do to have you stop defending them.
Windom Earle
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Dat OP update. Holy shit MS, I'm so out.
Hahaha, that would be amazing
Some people think they can, but history shows they cannot. Xbox 1 and GameCube games often ran and looked better than PS2, despite PS2 being the undisputed king of the videogame landscape at the time.
Microsoft does not have that much leverage to force all publishers to do this, they do not control the video game industry, far from it.
Third party games will look and run better, how much, depends on the developer. The best looking games for both consoles will obviously be first party stuff.
Third parties are not going to artificially handicap their games just to appease Microsoft, for no other reason than they had a beer with Don Mattrick at E3?
Somebody with a different console may pay the same money to get a higher quality version of the same game.
That same person may then be able to sell said game easily once bored of it.
The market at large may realise this to and no longer buy your console in large enough numbers to mean not only is your version of the games not as good, you don't get as many games as people with the other console.
You could always skype your nan and watch TV instead though....
Rising_Hei
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I think that it all depends on how good Xbox 1 does.
If it does as good as PS3, better or slighty worse... they'd have power to avoid PS4 from getting benefits.
If no one cares about Xbox 1 and it does really really BAD compared to PS4 and MS tries to put them under pressure, publishers and devs would just say: fuck off Microsoft.
I think that it's no secret that Microsoft has very shady policies in these cases
Corronchilejano
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This'll go pretty much the same way as programming on the PS3: Some bla bla bla here, and devs finally going "you know what? This is a bitch".
The difference is, there is no untapped theoretical potential, only untapped theoretical problems.
Fox Mulder
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This won't be the first gen where there's been a difference in power. Devs will do multi platform releases like normal.
It's all a question of ROI. If they sell more games on one platform because it's the game is graphically superior, then you will see a difference between the two consoles. If it doesn't bring in more profits, games on both platforms will look the same.
Just look at the PC. Powerful hardware doesn't guarantee a great difference.
Third parties are in competition with other thrid parties. If one company starts gimping its games, those games will lose attractivity compared to games from companies that don't. So, as long as the effort/benefit-ration of optimizing games is positive, developers will optimize them.
NullPointer
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Brad Grenz
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The show they skipped last year?
JetBlackPanda
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Xboned is pretty good too.
If I could go back in time and show this shit to myself 2 months ago I would not believe it.
its out of control.
GoofsterStud
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Yes and with little to no optimization required.
No, otherwise this would of happened repeatedly. PS2 to Xbox being a prime example. All they can do is ask for the base game or comparable. 3DO and Jaguar are other prime examples.
No, the PC can and will be superior (given the budget) in every way. Just imagine X1: Entry Level PC, PS4 Medium(lower end of medium) PC (significant improvement over X1 but not earth shattering), none are close to a high end PC (earth shattering). With how similar the architecture is to PCs, expect PC games to look even better.
scytherage
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Microsoft is making a lot of mistakes, that's a fact. But Sony also made a lot of promises at their event, which aren't getting as much scrutiny. That Gaikai stuff, for instance. Is that really going to work? I hope they can show a practical application of it, live, no smoke and mirrors.
I really wouldn't commit to any specific platform at this point. Just enjoy the fireworks...that's e3 for you.
I really wouldn't commit to any specific platform at this point. Just enjoy the fireworks...that's e3 for you.
maquiladora
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Would have been a better choice than The Price Is Right.
For as long as it took developers to even figure out how to squeeze their games into PS3's hardware, I can see the ease of development this time meaning an easier time for developers which leaves them more time to make the game look better on specific hardware. If they're no longer wresting with the Playstation hardware to produce a quality gaming experience like they had to do the previous 2 generations, and not only are they getting the easiest system to develop for but also by far the strongest, I don't see how they wouldn't at least devote some time in making it look better than the other system ports.
Quadraphonic
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It's never really had that much of a disparity. In the previous years, you developed your game on the console that was going to sell the most. It's why virtually all multiplayer games on the Xbox1/GameCube were 2 player, even if they had 4 ports, because the PS2 had 2 ports.
If MS started offering to hold back other builds, you'd hear about that right quick. That's anticompetitive right there.
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