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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

Neiteio

Member
Well, we will find out soon, won't we?
Not necessarily. It's quite possible the characters exist and were prepped for E3, but Nintendo may have done so as backup in case they didn't generate the hype they wanted. Hence why they started with two... then unveiled a third. They could go about this in any number of ways, any number of combinations. There's no guarantee we'll see anything tomorrow. But I strongly suspect our prophet is right on the money when to comes to these six being planned at some point.
 

Salsa

Member
SAKURAI PLS #2:

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no one got shit on him

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Neiteio

Member
Well the guy who posted it here is the guy who runs Gematsu. His source is the one who told him the characters. He probably didn't post it on Gematsu since he couldn't confirm them. He posted them jokingly in a Smash thread here and no one batted an eye. Turned out it was half true, meaning the other half is 99.9% likely.
Ah, so when he posted it here, he WAS the Gematsu guy, and he was passing along what his source had said. That makes sense.
 

Not

Banned
I really hope so.

Dojo is the best way to hype up the game.


If they only do Dojo via Miiverse it'd be extremely stupid. It'd basically be like only marketing to Wii U owners


I can't tell if you guys are joking with this subject... they're going to include as many characters as they have the time and budget for. The number of new characters is a vague goal that may change with time. We remember the cut characters on the Brawl disc right?

I said "expectation"
 

Ryce

Member
Here's my ever-changing post-reveal roster. My old "roster prediction topic" roster can fuck right off.

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I'd have said that SSB4's roster wouldn't exceed 45, but since 12 characters were revealed well over a year before the game's release I've got a feeling the roster might surpass 50. I kept all the Brawl characters because Sakurai (and his huge development team) might finally have the time and resources to make the game he planned from the very beginning, without any cuts.

Toad
Toad's popular, the only remaining original Mario Kart character, and he has a major role in the upcoming Super Mario 3D World. Given that Sakurai included Villager despite his feelings about Animal Crossing in the days of Brawl, I feel like this might be the game where Toad finally breaks free from Peach's move set. I could actually see that being a part of his CG introduction trailer -- Peach goes to pull Toad out but he isn't there, and as she looks around confused he jumps into battle and kicks her out of the frame or something.

Dixie Kong
She was planned for Brawl and makes her return to the mainline Donkey Kong games in the upcoming Tropical Freeze. She also has just enough name value to be considered a major character, which every Smash Bros. game needs in its newcomer roster.

Ridley
I don't feel like explaining him. Metroid's big enough to warrant another character, and he's the obvious choice. He'll probably be unlockable.

Palutena
Another safe, obvious pick.

Chrom
Ditto.

Mewtwo
A heavily requested veteran who's being brought back into the fold with X and Y. His new forme(s) will probably be worked in somehow, too. Unlockable, obviously.

Zoroark
Despite GAF largely considering him a failed attempt at replacing Lucario and irrelevant with the arrival of X and Y, Black/White and Black 2/White 2 still spent three years at the forefront of the Pokémon universe. You can't just pretend a generation didn't exist. Plusle & Minun were planned for Brawl, so we know Sakurai thinks all generations introduced after the last Smash Bros. deserve characters. The fifth generation games sold a ton, too.

Mii
I'm just going with the leak here.

Sheriff
He'd be a fun unlockable historical character in the vein of G&W or R.O.B. He's Nintendo's first character.

Takamaru
A popular retro character to placate the Japanese fan base. He's sort of relevant with Nintendo Land, too.

Little Mac
A popular retro character to placate the Western fan base. Also, leak.

Pac-Man
Leak! He'd have been on my roster regardless, though.

Oh, and Toon Link might be swapped out for LTTP Link.
 

Meelow

Banned
The only disappointing thing I got to say is how Skyloft visually doesn't look any better than Skyloft in Skyward Sword, hopefully by the time it releases the visuals get better.
 

Toad.T

Banned

Mr.Men and Little Miss. I... I just... who in the... WHY in the...
I can't even think of why, out of every CN, AS/Toonami or boomerang character, you would pick them.

I now oddly want them for Ultra Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion XXXL, though...
 
Little Mac and Pac-Man are fine. But the Mii? Ugh, it's expected, but still disappointing for me.

I just want Shulk revealed as a playable character with his own reveal trailer sooner or later, and then everything will be perfect for this game.
 
Not necessarily. It's quite possible the characters exist and were prepped for E3, but Nintendo may have done so as backup in case they didn't generate the hype they wanted. Hence why they started with two... then unveiled a third.

If you need that many mental gymnastics to claim your leak was correct, your leak was wrong.
 

Neiteio

Member
If you need that many mental gymnastics to claim your leak was correct, your leak was wrong.
What? No. Did you not notice Wii Fit Trainer was her own separate trailer? They can dole out these characters however they want. There's nothing to preclude the possibility the trailers are ready, but Nintendo is playing their debut by ear.

Again: How did someone guess Villager and Wii Fit Trainer? Tell me that. Prior to the Direct, Sakurai had explicitly ruled out Villager. And no one -- not even the roster makers with Flipnote Frog -- had ever considered Wii Fit Trainer. So tell me, how could a person "guess" six characters, and be completely right so far?
 

Not

Banned
The only disappointing thing I got to say is how Skyloft visually doesn't look any better than Skyloft in Skyward Sword, hopefully by the time it releases the visuals get better.

They probably just ported and re-rezzed the model from SS
 

Ryce

Member
What? No. Did you not notice Wii Fit Trainer was her own separate trailer? They can dole out these characters however they want. There's nothing to preclude the possibility the trailers are ready, but Nintendo is playing their debut by ear.

Again: How did someone guess Villager and Wii Fit Trainer? Tell me that. Prior to the Direct, Sakurai had explicitly ruled out Villager. And no one -- not even the roster makers with Flipnote Frog -- had ever considered Wii Fit Trainer. So tell me, how could a person "guess" six characters, and be completely right so far?
Exactly. It's not like just one of the revealed characters is on the list of six; all three of them are. Statistically -- literally, from a mathematical standpoint -- that's improbable to the point of practical impossibility.
 

Neiteio

Member
You need to tell us where this came from.

I must have more. Please.
Go to press.nintendo.com/e32013

Username: Nintendo
Password: E32013

Scroll down to Smash, download the press kit

Ignis Fatuus said:
What? Yes.

If you claim that six characters will be revealed at E3 and only three of them are, you were wrong. Period. It's not ambiguous.
Yes, it'd be wrong as worded. Only because the leaker saw the six and assumed they'd all be shown at E3. It wouldn't be wrong in the sense that those characters exist and are coming.

Think of how this source may have found out what he did. Perhaps he's some middle-man handling the media assets behind the scenes. He may look at six trailers, each for a different newcomer, and assume they'll all be shown. But as with any media event, the one's running the show ultimately call that.

As Ryce pointed out, this source has been 100% right so far, half of his predictions confirmed, and two of those three characters are ones people either had ruled out or never considered. I believe the source that these characters are real. Whether their timing is set in stone, we don't know.
 

Nemesis_

Member
I don't know about you guys but anyone who guessed that a Villager from Animal Crossing and fucking Wii Fit Trainer would be playable, along with Megaman is kind of on to something.

I think it's rather telling that nobody in our own prediction thread guessed Wii Fit Trainer. Not even a guess.
 

ffdgh

Member
I don't know about you guys but anyone who guessed that a Villager from Animal Crossing and fucking Wii Fit Trainer would be playable, along with Megaman is kind of on to something.

I think it's rather telling that nobody in our own prediction thread guessed Wii Fit Trainer. Not even a guess.

An ac character was wanted since brawl.

Wft? No nope noway.
 

Neiteio

Member
You didn't debunk anything. It's cute that you care so much though.
I care enough to explain myself, but if you're not capable of understanding what I say, so be it.

Perhaps we're arguing different things. Are you challenging the notion that this source knows of characters in the game? Do you think him calling Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Mega Man was just a lucky guess?
 
id have no problem with mii if the move list is enjoyable. Adds a personal touch to being in the game and taking on classic characters.

You could have a four player battle with all miis, itd be hilarious.

edit: as long as the mii is your actual mii, which i wouldn't see why it wouldn't be
 

L Thammy

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k so, so far I have:

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ReiGun

Member
I don't know about you guys but anyone who guessed that a Villager from Animal Crossing and fucking Wii Fit Trainer would be playable, along with Megaman is kind of on to something.

I think it's rather telling that nobody in our own prediction thread guessed Wii Fit Trainer. Not even a guess.

I'm pretty sure she single handedly destroyed every single fanmade roster in the world.

You'd have to be insane to guess that.
 
What? Yes.

If you claim that six characters will be revealed at E3 and only three of them are, you were wrong. Period. It's not ambiguous.

The point isn't about the amount of characters to revealed at E3 but rather which characters.
PR plans can change. Even on short notice.

Especially considering the source of information even nailed down the official names of all these characters (in particular "Wii Fit Trainer" and "Villager") - given how ambiguous the names of these characters have been up to this point, and some keep calling the Wii Fit Trainer "Wii Fit Girl" or whatever, it should show that there's something up.

It would be quite the uncanny coincidence otherwise.
 

Thorakai

Member
I'm now expecting a Trendsetter character to be in this game Sakurai. I have absolutely no idea about the game but we need some fabulous style in Smash Bros. damn it!!! Plus it would be great to see the fallout from such a reveal.
 

NeonZ

Member
The only disappointing thing I got to say is how Skyloft visually doesn't look any better than Skyloft in Skyward Sword, hopefully by the time it releases the visuals get better.

I don't think it will. They didn't touch on Delfino Island in Brawl. If it were a static arean, it could be redone, but considering how they'll show various parts of the island and such, they'll likely reuse most assets, aside from maybe changing some textures and such. IIRC, Great Bay in Melee also reused assets for the background, although the area itself had new assets.
 
Are you challenging the notion that this source knows of characters in the game? Do you think him calling Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Mega Man was just a lucky guess?

I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that it was a guess. I do think the rest of the names on that list are likely characters. If the other three characters are a no show tomorrow then I would be very skeptical about taking his word as gospel and spreading it around like it's fact. I don't really give a shit beyond that.
 
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