BobTheFork
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I can't say directly but I lived near one of those huge flagship GS stores. They only had 20 ps2 for preorder to begin with and then it was cut back to 10 when Sony couldn't meet demand
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Gamestop PS4 preorder reserve slots more than double of XB1?
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I can't say directly but I lived near one of those huge flagship GS stores. They only had 20 ps2 for preorder to begin with and then it was cut back to 10 when Sony couldn't meet demand
Felix Lighter
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The only situation that I think would have prevented that would be third party subsidized model deals (cable companies for example) that haven't been worked out in time but you're right, they probably wouldn't have even announced the price if they foresaw a subsidized model coming in the near future.
I think going by GS numbers can be misleading. I really think MS is going to be pushing mass market more. Walmart, Target, Toys r us, Amazon and bestbuy could see much higher allocations than GS. Nintendo does that and MS vould be following suit. I remember when I was a buyer for EBGames the arguments our Nintendo buyer had with Nintendo that we were getting 1/10 of the allocation Toys R us got.
bunbun777
Member
Not sure if this is the place to mention it, but I went back to Amazon and noticed that 'launch ps4' has been replaced with 'standard ps4' which are the same units but standard is not guaranteed to ship immediately when ps4 is released. I preordered a 'launch version' so hopefully I will have one sent out in the first wave.
Dead Prince
Banned
tbh i rather have microsoft around. we need more push for games even if microsoft does moneyhat. it allows for more games from both end.
BobTheFork
Member
Check you email. Also if you highlight each version on that page, it should note one as having been purchased.
Sony is doing a big Smartphone like launch
Smartphones like Galaxy S4 or Iphone have shown that firms can sell millions of a device Day 1, why should it be different for a console if they didn´t fuck up the Hardware Design? I am not saying that PS4 will get Iphone/GalaxyS4 First week like sales, that would be to optimistic :>
Bare in mind it's UK only, though it is the second largest region - but it's all I have easy access to. I might be able to secure the data for the entire company though.
Regardless - it'll be tomorrow afternoon before I can post anything.
Dead Prince
Banned
can hear microsoft already
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Sony is doing a big Smartphone like launch
Smartphones like Galaxy S4 or Iphone have shown that firms can sell millions of a device Day 1, why should it be different for a console if they didn´t fuck up the Hardware Design? I am not saying that PS4 will get Iphone/GalaxyS4 First week like sales, that would be to optimistic :>
Pretty much, get as many of those things out there as possible, and still be reliable of course. Sony is a lot more prepared for this than anybody, especially MS, was expecting. You imagine on day one in the US the user base for the PS4 is 3-4 times larger than the Xbox? That should only keep growing, and doesn't even consider other markets.
Off-Kilter
Banned
I can confirm that it is a similar situation in a few Gamestops near me.
binarymelon
Member
Spoke with someone at my local EBGames (same company as Gamestop), and he says every time they hit their allocation limit it gets increased so they think MS is just trying to generate demand by making people think the numbers are low.
crazygambit
Member
I've never liked two consoles being essentially the same from 2 different manufacturers. The price of the extra console you need to experience all the games you're interested in is probably more than any benefit you get from increased competition (since the sole console would still compete with PC and other forms of entertainment).
Kinda like Bluray and HDDVD. Everyone seemed to agree the movie market wasn't big enough for 2 competing format, but for some reason the gaming market is? I really wouldn't bat an eye if one of the manufacturers exited the market.
there is something called family plan where you can share your games with up to 10 people on xbox live. maybe gamestop is salty about that.
Eh, dunno if I buy that. I don't think MS would turn away $100 preorders just to create a vague demand spike.
Every single console that Sony and MS produces this holiday will be sold.
So we might have on our hands the biggest console launch if the demand and supply is there this time (and the preorder allocations seems to indicate ample supply).
la flama blanca
Banned
Details on that policy are still cloudy as fuck.
You're right, it is hard to extrapolate off of Gamestop numbers alone. But I would be surprised if the other big retailers weren't clamoring for every console they can get from Sony.
flyingmonkeywhoa
Banned
They should send you an email. They're the same apparently
WolfForager
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PSY・S;63594426 said:
I have no idea what's happening in this video...
Must be some new Gamestop push for carding, since I did too. I rarely got carded for a while, but my last two purchases I got carded for. I haven't even been carded for alcohol in years. I'm 27.
JohnnySasaki86
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When I picked up TLOU today the manager also said there allotment for PS4 increased today. He didn't mention XBone, but I specifically asked about PS4. I also asked if it was Sony increasing their numbers, he said no he didn't think so, and that he thought that Gamestop was already given a specific amount(quite large it seems), and then based on what stores were performing the best with reserves, they were given more. Another wards Gamestop is holding back a portion of their allotment.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yeah I get all my games from them apart from a few GAME exclusives, but I've always pre-ordered from a store and linedup for console launches, this is the first time I've done it online so, just wondering how they are, thanks
Tallshortman
Member
Well that moneyhat will cost a lot more if they do.
But PS4 is going to be equally sold out and not sitting on store shelves. Worldwide launch, super high demand.
Fantasy Final
Member
I preodered my PS4 here in Quebec and I was the 18th, asked the GameStop guy how much people preordered the Xbone and it was 5.
Tallshortman
Member
Exactly, people keep forgetting several of their big time investors have wanted to shut down the xbox division in the past, even with the 360 being profitable. It's just not profitable enough in their eyes to justify the huge resources invested into it, not to mention the multiple billions they lost on the xb1. If xbone bombs hard enough to warrant a new console in 5 years it's more likely they exit the business than actually go through with such a quick relaunch.
Hawk269
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I have a good friend that is a Manager at Gamestop and he informed me that so far, every morning they receive additional quantity to reserve for the PS4. He then said that normally around noon or so they get additional quantity for the X1. They did have one day where they did not get additional X1 allocation, but the next day they were allowed to have more.
He was shocked at how many they have been allowed to sell for both platforms and at this particular location he had more X1's than PS4's reserved (as of this morning). While I was there 2 people came in to pre-order, 1 was for the PS4 and one for the X1. He said they are getting a lot of calls and for his store it is a great sign that there is so much interest in both of the consoles.
It seems like each location is different because the other store in-town he told me had almost a 3:1 X1 over the PS4, but in his store it was a close with a bit more X1's, but nothing to make a big deal out of. The last thing he told me was that X1 pre-orders for games was much higher, which continues the 360's attach rate history and seems to be applying to the X1. Again, this is early, so not drawing any definitive numbers.
He was shocked at how many they have been allowed to sell for both platforms and at this particular location he had more X1's than PS4's reserved (as of this morning). While I was there 2 people came in to pre-order, 1 was for the PS4 and one for the X1. He said they are getting a lot of calls and for his store it is a great sign that there is so much interest in both of the consoles.
It seems like each location is different because the other store in-town he told me had almost a 3:1 X1 over the PS4, but in his store it was a close with a bit more X1's, but nothing to make a big deal out of. The last thing he told me was that X1 pre-orders for games was much higher, which continues the 360's attach rate history and seems to be applying to the X1. Again, this is early, so not drawing any definitive numbers.
mine too, mostly.
Dead Prince
Banned
went to best buy to pick up Left With Bugs and they said the ratio of ps4 to xbox is well over double.
That's odd, because it's completely opposite of what the story is online for many of the largest retailers. PS4's outselling X1's, PS4 software outselling X1, etc.
Launch should be extremely interesting.
Yeah_its_Bob
Member
I checked the bestbuy I worked at. PS4 was at 60 while X1 at like 30
But online retailers are much different than what's going on at the ground level. There are gamestops, best buys, and walmarts in many different areas.
Each area can have a different demographic. Just like the poster you quoted stated in on area the Xbone has higher preorder.
Most of the stories on this site point the the PS4 is ahead in other areas. You have to take it on a store by store basis. Like you said Launch will be interesting. Make no mistake. Both of these consoles will sell out when they launch for the rest of the year.
Where'd you get those numbers? Secret sources? Did you sneak into local gamestops and count? Did you guess?
ThisWreckage
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I posted this news in a thread yesterday. My local Gamestop had 25 PS4s and 8 Ones that they could fill. They may be able to increase that number based on demand.
If Sony ends up winning in NA then the One is truly fucked. It would almost be PS2 levels of domination for Sony.
If Sony ends up winning in NA then the One is truly fucked. It would almost be PS2 levels of domination for Sony.
Lagspike_exe
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Basicaly. Because they sure as hell aren't winning Europe. And Japan... Well, better not mention it to MS execs. Losing US would be catastrophic to MS.
demosthenes
Member
I feel like this is a game of Risk now.
ProfessorMoran
Member
They need to keep their eyes on the ball which is trying to compete against the likes of Apple and Google, the real threat to their OS cashcow, some people think they can just spend all their cash to prop up the xbone when things go south but their cash is much better spent elsewhere than on a game industry they don't really give a shit about.
My local EB said they have 70 pre-orders for the PS4 so far, first allocation, didn't ask about the xbone.
demosthenes
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They're looking beyond the video game console. MS believes what happened with the smart phone will happen in the living room. There will be a convergence of all devices into a single device. XB1 is the stepping stone to the next set top box.
Mr.Wreckless
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People get too caught up in "winning" and "losing".
The Wii and PS3 sold more units than the 360 worldwide but do you think MS thought they "lost" last gen? Im pretty sure they did pretty well with the number of games and Gold subscriptions they sold.
If they can pull enough people into their ecosystem to turn a profit i dont think they will see it as losing.
The Wii and PS3 sold more units than the 360 worldwide but do you think MS thought they "lost" last gen? Im pretty sure they did pretty well with the number of games and Gold subscriptions they sold.
If they can pull enough people into their ecosystem to turn a profit i dont think they will see it as losing.
Alebrije
Member
Xbone Yields problem perhaps....
fwiw Major Nelson tweeted out that they added more allocation to their store and Amazon
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson
Just released: more #XboxOne Day One Editions are available for pre-order: MS Store http://mjr.mn/MSStoreDay1 or Amazon http://mjr.mn/Xboxone
Kind of funny you can still get a launch guaranteed unit. I figured all the pre-orders would be gone the night they went up. Guess I'm still in the mind set of how badly the 360 and Wii were launched
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson
Just released: more #XboxOne Day One Editions are available for pre-order: MS Store http://mjr.mn/MSStoreDay1 or Amazon http://mjr.mn/Xboxone
Kind of funny you can still get a launch guaranteed unit. I figured all the pre-orders would be gone the night they went up. Guess I'm still in the mind set of how badly the 360 and Wii were launched
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
On one hand, you can think like this:
After Apple launched the iphone, google created the android, and many other companies copied after. Currently, smartphones are everywhere, and the old phone is mostly dead. If XB1 is the stepping stone, other box manufacturers will attempt to create the same type of thing, and gaming boxes will change forever.
On the other hand, you can think like this:
XB1 has a decent idea in creating an all in one box, but there's no way that all other box makers will stick a gaming machine in their product to compete(the exception being social games). My FIOS box can play some games, but they're not putting hardcore titles on it, and the same with the cable box I had before it.
I would like to point out that initially, Sony did try to market the PS3 as a media box that played some great games(bluray player that plays games). That initially went over like a lead balloon due to the price. As time went on, when bluray beat out HDDVD, more people decided that it's a gaming machine with a pretty good bluray player in it.
Sony also tried a shared computing concept first. The PS3 promise was that the box, when connected to the net, could find other PS3 consoles, and borrow processing power as needed from consoles which were not using all of the power of the cell. Ultimately, this was used most for the Folding at Home project, and nothing else.
What MS is doing now is just an evolution of some of these concepts IMO.
Not sure. Says on EBGames.ca that:
Xbox One Console - Day One Edition (Quantities Extremely Limited)
Maybe thats why the XBone will launch only in 22(?) countries. Microsoft knows that they can't produce enough so they focus on countries where they have (had?) an established market. It wouldn't suprise me if its really sold out this holiday. (Because they didn't even supply that many units.)