My 570 GTX is only about 1.4 TF. Why would a 560 be better than a 1.8 TF PS4 GPU?
Dr apoc, this is the GTX 560 TI's specs. Explain how it is beefier than the PS4 GPU when it has 50% less flops.
http://www.gpureview.com/GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-card-641.html
First of all, you keep believing in Gflops like measurement of all things. You are comparing cars based in their top speed.
Second, Xbox One GPU is rumored to be capable of 1.2Gflops (or even 850 flops if we trust what some of you posted here some weeks ago). GTX560ti is capable of 1.3GFLOPs at base clock. Then One have 16 ROPs and 48 TMUs vs 32 ROPs and 64 TMUs on Nvidia card.
Yesterday I spilled some juice reading some nonsenses, today's clique is close to that. Luckily for me, I'm well versed into cleaning sticky liquids from my keyboard.
That some people at gaf actually thinks that a HD7770 with Jaguars cores can overpower a GTX560ti behind an Intel Quad, and then they demand proofs of the contrary, goes beyond hilarity.
Please explain how you would design a better system with the same TDP.
he's just stating that he wants a more powerful system for the same price point without considering the costs in both TDP and material. Basically he wants Sony and MS to lose even more money per console than they did this past generation, or he wants to spend 7-800 dollars on a console the size of a desktop.
Let's be clear on this. This is not about how much power can you insert into any given TDP, this is about how cheap it can be. And AMD won that race because of their prices.
If you actually believe that AMD can insert more power into any given TDP than Intel or Nvidia, you won't have any problems in life, because this is a pretty irrelevant subject. But you are just a fool. Do you believe that Intel is unable to pack an 80 EU iGPU along with a dual core i3 and wipe floor with that APUs using less transistors and with smaller thermal footprint? They just aren't willing to do. Build a better system that those APUs using a TDP methric is easy as fuck. Money cost, considering other companies fees and not the cost of the silicon die per se, its another subject.
Problem here is the need some people have to believe into the almightiness of console technology instead of realize that consoles are designed to be cheap. The same stupidity of Cellvangelists 7 years ago, the same stupidity of that people that refused to believe that those consoles weren't doing 1080p/60fps until some guys bothered to count pixels using digital outputs. Here, in this same thread, there are people sharply affirmating that Jaguar architecture is more powerful than Piledriver. And not only that, but others have to prove otherwise.
If you make a poll in this forum, you will find people believing that PS4 GPU is stronger than Titan because it mounts more GDDR5 on board. And I'm not talking about a simple unexplained vote, lots of them will argue that believe with all their hearts, lack of technical knowledge and GIFs library. People here want to beat top end technology with buffed budget parts, because something in their inner impels them to those futile exercises. Because there are some sort of war to win in their minds.
APU's are convenient, cheap, performers, but they aren't high end. And their CPU part is absolutely low end. Deal with it. There is nothing bad about it because they also will be sold for cheap.
Everytime I think about some people here buying gpus on malls looking for VRAM size my keyboard suffers an agression.