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Windows Phone doubles market share in Europe, 1% behind iOS in Germany
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samus i am
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I have a friend in Germany that switched to Windows Phone this year. I thought she was crazy at the time, but she told me it is very popular over there.
My wife and I both have the 520/521 now and really like it. Prepaid has always been the best for us.
perryfarrell
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Damn, Android's big in Spain.
Almost bought a Lumia 520 myself, they seem nice little devices. Good price/value ratio.
Almost bought a Lumia 520 myself, they seem nice little devices. Good price/value ratio.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I'll fit right in when I visit then. Most excellent.
The Abominable Snowman
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I'm really happy for Windows Phone. Most slick phone I ever had.
WTF at HTC's backslide. I am starting to feel bad for them.
I remember the Windows Mobile -> Android Betrayalton and swore to never buy an HTC or Android. (I have a Galaxy now)
WTF at HTC's backslide. I am starting to feel bad for them.
I remember the Windows Mobile -> Android Betrayalton and swore to never buy an HTC or Android. (I have a Galaxy now)
lastflowers
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I think this is the most positive WP thread+comments I've ever seen.
juliushandle
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now what can MS/Nokia do in the US to gain marketshare? 520/521 isn't having as large of an impact here. people would still rather pay more for an older Galaxy S2/S3 or a budget Android.
Nice to see marketshare growing, especially here in the UK. Glad to see it in double digits. Hopefully people who are buying the 520 are impressed enough with it to want to upgrade down the line to more premium models with a much higher average selling price.
It won't last.
You can get a 920 for £200 here now, pretty tempting.
It won't last.
You can get a 920 for £200 here now, pretty tempting.
Alx
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Hey, I'm one of them !
Germany seems to have its own dynamics, but in most other countries, it looks like MS mostly benefited from the fall of BlackBerry. It's a bit sad, I had a BB not too long ago (before switching to Android and then WP8), and rather liked it. I especially love physical keyboards, that's the main thing bothering me right now with WP8.
Germany seems to have its own dynamics, but in most other countries, it looks like MS mostly benefited from the fall of BlackBerry. It's a bit sad, I had a BB not too long ago (before switching to Android and then WP8), and rather liked it. I especially love physical keyboards, that's the main thing bothering me right now with WP8.
You don't think Kantar is objective crud?
Now you dun it.
Good news to see. Crazy how much Android dominates in some markets. Hopefully with better spread of devices on carriers WP will gain more traction in the US. Tough market though. 2014 is going to be an interesting year for WP.
I was going to say price as the Lumia 520 is a bit of a bargain here in the UK but the 520/521 has been on sale in the US at $80 on PAYG a good few times so it can't be that.
I wonder if it's just lack of awareness of just how good the budget devices are from Nokia.
WP will be caught up in the specs race by that stage so that'll be one less negative against it. Interesting to see how the 1520 performs when it launches in November or so.
Kinky John
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I've been on the verge of buying a 620 or 920 for a while now. I'm hanging on until the October event to see what they announce there before parting with any cash.
It'll likely just be the 1520 and some lower end stuff like the rumoured Lumia 525. Nothing out there suggesting a 92x successor yet, I wonder if they're waiting for 8.1 to launch that.
Don't have a windows phone, but seriously, who cares?
Funky Papa
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It's the same as Surface. I don't give a toss about it as long as MS keeps pumping awesome devices I like.
There are a lot of ads for the 1020 in the US, but that it is super expensive and only available on AT&T so far. That's probably the main hurdle. AT&T is the only carrier that gets the flagship product when it is new and is competitive with the latest Apple and Samsung flagships. When the 920 versions for Verizon, TMobile, and, Sprint, came out, those carriers were a few months away from getting the S4 and now they have the 5s.
/822 owner in 'murika
On a side note, I'm interested to see if Google's Moto X phones made here can take some marketshare from Samsung.
/822 owner in 'murika
On a side note, I'm interested to see if Google's Moto X phones made here can take some marketshare from Samsung.
Yep. Maybe they should not charge licensing for the OS, to be even more charitable.
Do you want to know if they air dropped a bunch of phones on people who want a free phone or they're making a product people want to buy and are seeking out?
They are giving away windows phones for free?
RottenTanuki
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Microsoft supported older devices much better in Europe. More phones that started with WP 7.0 got updated to 7.8. I'm not sure if any were updated through official means in North America.
Wiktor
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Nokia is extremely strong brand in Europe. In USA it's petite. Even when they ruled the whole mobile market it was still weak in Europe.
Second...Lumia 520. Incredibly cheap solid phone.
Plus there's a lot of app support for WP in Europe. A lot more than in USA.
Slappers Only
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It's weird for me. I had a Windows phone for a while, and it was great. App support sucks, sure, but I hate using apps all together.
Give me a good, snappy browser and I'm happy.
Give me a good, snappy browser and I'm happy.
Bomber Bob
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NOkia still strong here
dragonelite
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Its not like i have shares in ms so why would i care.
Bitmap Frogs
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Companies stopped subsidising handsets to compete on rates.
As a result high end phones took a hit - android wide price range is clearly winning here. Huawei is becoming big here for this reason.
Kinky John
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I'm going to play it safe and wait a few weeks. The 920 was £200 on Amazon and Tesco at the weekend and I probably should have pulled the trigger - I doubt it'll get much cheaper than that.
I almost bought a red one when it was that price but I too want to wait off and see what the 1520 is like, as well as the Nexus 5 if I fancy a chance from WP.
lastflowers
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For the same 100$, you can get a iPhone 5 and the 920 (approx., replace [Flagship] with [Flagship]) on contract. What propels a consumer to buy the relatively unknown 920 or 1020 over the known quantity iPhone or Galaxy, especially when you've heard from friends that WP has no apps? At the carrier stores, you had reps actively talk badly about WP because kickbacks are higher when someone buys android/iOS kickbacks or because they owned WindowsMobile phone 5-6 years ago and the first iPhone was better? WP8 brought the OS at least to a 'known quantity' in the US, whereas before if you brought it up most people wouldn't even know what you're talking about.
In Europe there is a lot less reliance on carrier subsidies, so the pricing of the iPhone relative to WP is a much better value proposition. 100$ for lumia 520/150$ for HTC8S/450$ for lumia 920/5 as opposed to 400$ for iPhone 4S/600$ + for iPhone 5.
It's exactly the issue. Are they being bought for their price or their quality? The kind of consumers you attract matters when you desperately need traction.
Guess we'll have to wait for the announcement of their losses to find out.
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