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GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
It's the "It's good enough" mentality

I know! If I had two options: One was more reliable, was cheaper and was better, and both played the games I'm interested in ... Why the hell would I choose the least reliable, most expensive, and worse alternative?! Please explain. I can't understand this level of brand loyalty. It's insanity.
 

Daeva

Banned
Can someone give me a summery of what happened in this thread pls

Cboat predicted the future again. Teh Xbox will have some troubles with 1080p for sure. Angry people followed him but he cast a spell and disappeared.

The following words were left in the dirt: xyalz woant evahz4 caetchez dae maXgick manz.

He left no trace of the bidet.
 
I know! If I had two options: One was more reliable, was cheaper and was better, and both played the games I'm interested in ... Why the hell would I choose the least reliable, most expensive, and worse alternative?! Please explain. I can't understand this level of brand loyalty.
From reading his post, exclusive games. He said he's getting both for their exclusives.

I will be buying an extended warranty for my 'Bone because of this (actually, because of the 360). Not gonna skip it, though.
 
Can someone give me a summery of what happened in this thread pls

Cboat states 1080p will be rare on XB1, 720p - 900p will be norm due to ESram solution

Dark souls discussion for some reason

bunch of arguements

Cboat also said something about risks and upclocks too but not clear
 

SnakeEyes

Banned
No, this is what will happen:

-> Adoption of the consoles will greatly favor Sony worldwide and Sony will regain significant market share in NA.
-> The price difference is a gamer changer and even fanboys are aware of this. The power difference is just icing on the cake for Sony
-> At least Sony isn't ramming Kinect 2.0 down peoples throats and has had a consistent philosophy from day one. The entire Xbox One unveiling and the aftermath has been a debacle. Microsoft gave us essentially PS3 2.0 in terms of arrogance and messaging.
-> Microsoft will try to moneyhat third parties but they'll have to break the bank by doing such a thing because there will be more PS4 consoles sold worldwide. Sony will continue to invest in their first parties and won't give a shit what kind of back room deals Microsoft tries to do.
-> In the end, the first battle has already been fought and won by Sony with their messaging, price point, and the power of their console. Things won't ramp up for either console until 2014 for either console, however.
NOW it's /thread.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
From reading his post, exclusive games. He said he's getting both for their exclusives.

I will be buying an extended warranty for my 'Bone because of this (actually, because of the 360). Not gonna skip it, though.

But he ends with this:

I'm not entirely sure of how to read the last part of CBoaT's post, but it seems to me like the mention of risk everywhere could mean potential hardware issues. This alone isn't enough for me to cancel my preorder, but it'll likely lead to my buying an extended warranty.

If anything more concrete should arise about possible hardware issues for the Xbox One, then that preorder will be done for sure.

Which suggest he will be willing to both keep and cancel his preorder! Which negates any of his other thoughts on why he's buying an X1.
 
I know! If I had two options: One was more reliable, was cheaper and was better, and both played the games I'm interested in ... Why the hell would I choose the least reliable, most expensive, and worse alternative?! Please explain. I can't understand this level of brand loyalty. It's insanity.

Especially when that same brand gave you the finger a couple of months ago

From reading his post, exclusive games. He said he's getting both for their exclusives.

I will be buying an extended warranty for my 'Bone because of this (actually, because of the 360). Not gonna skip it, though.

Makes sense. Just the way it was written. To each his/her own
 
But he ends with this:



Which suggest he will be willing to both keep and cancel his preorder! Which negates any of his other thoughts on why he's buying an X1.
I think he meant that he'd cancel if there was any further clarification to Cboat's hints. I'd probably cancel if more official word of hardware issues came out. I got bit once for early adopting a MS console.

Off-topic on-topic: Demon's Souls 2? If true... HRRNG
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
I think he meant that he'd cancel if there was any further clarification to Cboat's hints. I'd probably cancel if more official word of hardware issues came out. I got bit once for early adopting a MS console.

Off-topic on-topic: Demon's Souls 2? If true... HRRNG

But wouldn't the logical thing to do be to cancel your preorder and wait to see if consumers start to complain? I doubt MS would officially announce hardware problems before the launch! This is putting the cart before the horse.
 

reKon

Banned
how many juniors were slayed in the past few days from this thread alone? I didn't notice anyone getting banned, but I saw people referring to that earlier.
 
so you are saying you'd cancel your preorder if Microsoft announced they had hardware issues before launch?
: /
I'd cancel my pre-order if another high profile source cited hardware issues before launch. No, I don't expect MS to be honest about their product (especially after the PR shitshow this launch has been). Is that really so crazy/hard to understand?

If issues occur after launch, I can always return it to Amazon.
 

viveks86

Member
I'd cancel my pre-order if another high profile source cited hardware issues before launch. No, I don't expect MS to be honest about their product (especially after the PR shitshow this launch has been). Is that really so crazy/hard to understand?

If issues occur after launch, I can always return it to Amazon.

Hey relax man. He was just picking on your choice of words. You said "official". Official => MS. :)
 
No, this is what will happen:

-> Adoption of the consoles will greatly favor Sony worldwide and Sony will regain significant market share in NA.
-> The price difference is a gamer changer and even fanboys are aware of this. The power difference is just icing on the cake for Sony
-> At least Sony isn't ramming Kinect 2.0 down peoples throats and has had a consistent philosophy from day one. The entire Xbox One unveiling and the aftermath has been a debacle. Microsoft gave us essentially PS3 2.0 in terms of arrogance and messaging.
-> Microsoft will try to moneyhat third parties but they'll have to break the bank by doing such a thing because there will be more PS4 consoles sold worldwide. Sony will continue to invest in their first parties and won't give a shit what kind of back room deals Microsoft tries to do.
-> In the end, the first battle has already been fought and won by Sony with their messaging, price point, and the power of their console. Things won't ramp up for either console until 2014 for either console, however.

Agree with everything.

However people will only predict what they want to see happen, this goes for all sizes of TEH CONSOLE WARZ. This is spot on for me though.
 

Codeblew

Member
From reading his post, exclusive games. He said he's getting both for their exclusives.

I will be buying an extended warranty for my 'Bone because of this (actually, because of the 360). Not gonna skip it, though.

Maybe this is CBOATS master plan. Maybe he works in the warranty department and his bonus is based on how many warranties he can sell.
 

FStop7

Banned
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Oh wow... I'm pretty sure I saw this when it originally aired. <3 La Parka.

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I know! If I had two options: One was more reliable, was cheaper and was better, and both played the games I'm interested in ... Why the hell would I choose the least reliable, most expensive, and worse alternative?! Please explain. I can't understand this level of brand loyalty. It's insanity.

MS had a delayed mind control mechanism in the 360 to keep the faithful from going astray, no matter how bad things got. That's the only logical explanation to me... XD
 

viveks86

Member
I know! If I had two options: One was more reliable, was cheaper and was better, and both played the games I'm interested in ... Why the hell would I choose the least reliable, most expensive, and worse alternative?! Please explain. I can't understand this level of brand loyalty. It's insanity.

Exclusives, I guess. I think people are more loyal to games like Halo, Gears, Forza etc than the Xbox itself. Also... USA? I'm serious. I've actually heard some people here say that they would rather give their money to a local company!!!

(Shrugs)
 

Gxgear

Member
how many juniors were slayed in the past few days from this thread alone? I didn't notice anyone getting banned, but I saw people referring to that earlier.

Would love to see a junior memorial thread so I can catch up on all the funnies.
 

viveks86

Member
how many juniors were slayed in the past few days from this thread alone? I didn't notice anyone getting banned, but I saw people referring to that earlier.

I saw 4 disappear in a span of 10 minutes! Then I started crying uncontrollably and left.
 
Exclusives, I guess. I think people are more loyal to games like Halo, Gears, Forza etc than the Xbox itself. Also... USA? I'm serious. I've actually heard some people here say that they would rather give their money to a local company!!!

(Shrugs)

Yup. Believe it or not that makes a lot of sense. And it's not necessarily a conscious decision. MS has been a big part of American tech for a long time. Sony has always been too but it feels foreign in a way. I feel like with some people here, Xbox is the only gaming console in existence

Edit: especially among American males. That's why Sony advertising during football games is smart.
 

Skenzin

Banned
Can someone give me a summery of what happened in this thread pls

-CBOAT made some more ambigiuos comments that were interpretted into console war lore.
*making non factual comments like 'yield problems'.. All chips have yield problem, chip fabrication business is about dealing with yield problems. All consoles have production and yield issues.
*1080p not going to happen for most Xbox One games.. I think thats common sense, no insider needed to call that.

I just dont see how this information could not have been deduced by anyone who regularly follows this stuff.
 
-CBOAT made some more ambigiuos comments that were interpretted into console war lore.
*making non factual comments like 'yield problems'.. All chips have yield problem, chip fabrication business is about dealing with yield problems. All consoles have production and yield issues.
*1080p not going to happen for most Xbox One games.. I think thats common sense, no insider needed to call that.

I just dont see how this information could not have been deduced by anyone who regularly follows this stuff.

You don't think it's true so obviously anyone who regularly follows this stuff can't deduce that claim. We'll have to wait and see what happens. The 1080p claim I agree with you.
 

viveks86

Member
Yup. Believe it or not that makes a lot of sense. And it's not necessarily a conscious decision. MS has been a big part of American tech for a long time. Sony has always been too but it feels foreign in a way. I feel like with some people here, Xbox is the only gaming console in existence

Edit: especially among American males. That's why Sony advertising during football games is smart.

What's ironic is that every single one of us here drives a Toyota or a Honda (intentional hyperbole)
 
-CBOAT made some more ambigiuos comments that were interpretted into console war lore.
*making non factual comments like 'yield problems'.. All chips have yield problem, chip fabrication business is about dealing with yield problems. All consoles have production and yield issues.
*1080p not going to happen for most Xbox One games.. I think thats common sense, no insider needed to call that.

I just dont see how this information could not have been deduced by anyone who regularly follows this stuff.

I pretty much accepted that the X1 would probably be 900p.
Still sucks too good thing i have an gaming rig for my multiplat gaming unless many of my friends will game on consoles.
 
-CBOAT made some more ambigiuos comments that were interpretted into console war lore.
*making non factual comments like 'yield problems'.. All chips have yield problem, chip fabrication business is about dealing with yield problems. All consoles have production and yield issues.
*1080p not going to happen for most Xbox One games.. I think thats common sense, no insider needed to call that.

I just dont see how this information could not have been deduced by anyone who regularly follows this stuff.

Right because all of us thought the trouble XB1 was having hitting 1080P was due to the ESram right?

This is new info even if you can't see it
 

Hubble

Member
One thing I don't understand is Forza 5 is 1080p which surprised the crap out of me being a launch title. A LAUNCH title. I fully did not expect a launch title to be 1080p. After developers get more familiar with the system, wouldn't the XBO be able to do 1080p more easily?

I honestly am not convinced either the PS4 and XBO is fully capable in providing full 1080p with eye candy resolutions based on the hardware but consoles are much different than PCs, so we shall see. And I know I sort of contradicted myself.
 
One thing I don't understand is Forza 5 is 1080p which surprised the crap out of me being a launch title. A LAUNCH title. I fully did not expect a launch title to be 1080p. After developers get more familiar with the system, wouldn't the XBO be able to do 1080p more easily?
You had launch titles for the PS3 running at full 1080p. There is always a trade-off though, and if you spend your resources on getting a high resolution then you might not have enough left to do all the other cool things you want to do with the game. This hasn't changed and we might still get games running in 600p five years from now.
 
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