Chobel
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no fucikn shit
Aab
abgosuteylut nopthi nyou $aid made a lick so fsense.
no fucikn shit
Aab
abgosuteylut nopthi nyou $aid made a lick so fsense.
Why would a comparatively more powerful yet less exotic set up be a curse in any manner?But why, it's my conjecture. Please give me more than "Just stop." We know the max outputs in each of the console pipelines, and we know the power outputs. I am not talking about just graphical fidelity here, I am talking in game mechanics, load times, and advantages that could be used by first parties on either console. I haven't looked as in depth into the ps4 pipeline, so I gave a light conjecture and maybe I should not have given one at all.
no fucikn shit
Aab
abgosuteylut nopthi nyou $aid made a lick so fsense.
I wonder how GAF is going to react when we see the first 900p game in the PS4's lifetime? Yes, it's a machine primed for 1080p, but don't game resolutions tend to drop over a console's lifetime as devs try to push visuals to their peak?
Just wanna throw that out there so people are prepared for the inevitable day. 1080 will always be the norm, tho.
no fucikn shit
Aab
abgosuteylut nopthi nyou $aid made a lick so fsense.
What does one do when someone's post is just one big flawed argument and baseless conjecture, though?But posting "just stop" doesn't contribute at all or point out flaws in the others' argument.
What the fuck bro.
Ahahaha at the newest CBOAT post. Barap bap bap baap, I'm lovin it.
Fuck McDonalds.
DAMN. I'd quit posting if CBOAT said this to me.
But why, it's my conjecture. Please give me more than "Just stop." We know the max outputs in each of the console pipelines, and we know the power outputs. I am not talking about just graphical fidelity here, I am talking in game mechanics, load times, and advantages that could be used by first parties on either console. I haven't looked as in depth into the ps4 pipeline, so I gave a light conjecture and maybe I should not have given one at all.
Your last sentence is how I feel about your first one, no offense.
Anyways, I really appreciate insiders like CBOAT and Proelite. And famous standing in front of yesterday's shitstorm. Crazy.
I definitely agree. I hope and believe that this PR nightmare will lead to a focused Microsoft push to regain the hearts and minds of gamers, thus leading to more software on the market.
Looking forward to this next console generation.
But why, it's my conjecture. Please give me more than "Just stop." We know the max outputs in each of the console pipelines, and we know the power outputs. I am not talking about just graphical fidelity here, I am talking in game mechanics, load times, and advantages that could be used by first parties on either console. I haven't looked as in depth into the ps4 pipeline, so I gave a light conjecture and maybe I should not have given one at all.
No it's nothing like the cell. Devs will utilize it but it will make little difference. The ESRAM is to make up for shortfalls in the architecture.So ESRAM is basically CELL-lite for devs ay? Powerful but no one outside first party devs are really gonna utilise it to its full potential, for most it will just be a pain.
Microsoft and Sony really have switched places :/
So ESRAM is basically CELL-lite for devs ay? Powerful but no one outside first party devs are really gonna utilise it to its full potential, for most it will just be a pain.
Microsoft and Sony really have switched places :/
The analogy lies in difficulty to utilise it, not so much in hidden power. When utilised well the Cell enabled the PS3 to match and/or exceed the 360's overall performance; the ESRAM will never do that. All it does is make up for the lower bandwidth of the main RAM pool in the XB1.So ESRAM is basically CELL-lite for devs ay? Powerful but no one outside first party devs are really gonna utilise it to its full potential, for most it will just be a pain.
Microsoft and Sony really have switched places :/
I'd actually be curious if someone attempts to take the cell phone approach to game consoles. MS already flirted with it with the subsidized model.
They'd have to be pretty strict about enforcing game compatibility though, and it would definitely be a long-shot (and mostly unprecedented in the console world)
What does one do when someone's post is just one big flawed argument and baseless conjecture, though?
Not enough frothing negativity?
While I simply don't agree with his technical points (very reductive and factually ridiculous) nothing warrants the dismissive attitude. Really, I'll take a reasoned approach over the ridiculous shitslinging that has pervaded the talk the last two days, even if it's something I find inherently incorrect.
Or maybe I've simply read too much 'HURR DURR XBONE' and 'LOL KILLZONE LOOKS LIKE SHIT' drivel...
Never seen CBoaT so confrontational. It's interesting, to say the least.
lol me tooI can't believe I can decipher this.
Never seen CBoaT so confrontational. It's interesting, to say the least.
no fucikn shit
Aab
abgosuteylut nopthi nyou $aid made a lick so fsense.
Ignoring the fact that, again, your technical analysis is completely without merit (or coherency), your ascribing reasons for the Xbox's design that simply didn't exist. It has ESRAM because is uses DDR3, and it uses DDR3 because Microsoft wanted 8 GB for it's larger media ambitions and using DDR3 was (wrongly) thought to be the only way to accomplish that.
This is why:I'd say help him understand where he's wrong and actually explain what esram really does and why it wouldn't work in the cases he described. Just some substance. But I understand that takes a lot of work sometimes. The dude obviously thought he was telling the truth. If someone really explained esram and why Xbox chose to go with it, I'd be happy to know, as I have no idea and I don't claim to.
Ignoring the fact that, again, your technical analysis is completely without merit (or coherency), your ascribing reasons for the Xbox's design that simply didn't exist. It has ESRAM because is uses DDR3, and it uses DDR3 because Microsoft wanted 8 GB for it's larger media ambitions and using DDR3 was (wrongly) thought to be the only way to accomplish that.
I have always said this from the very beginning, but people only like to target the parts of my posts that they don't like, and misinterpret the entirety of what I'm saying. It's just that in addition to that I've been saying that ESRAM has benefits to the system outside of the obvious bandwidth benefits based on what my friend has told me about work they're doing on the system. No more, no less.
Desperate MS is best MS as the saying goes. In a really weird way, I'm kinda glad all of this crap has happened. MS as a whole has been slipping for years. I think the triple hit of the Xbox One snafu, Windows 8 (which I'm using now), and the Surface RT (which is on my nightstand right next to me) will snap them out of the funk that they've been in. A little bit sad to see Ballmer go because he was goofy and seemed like a cool guy but at least Mattrick is gone. I think they're heading in the right direction but only time will tell.
I see complete sentences and proper punctuation so, no, it's not exactly incoherent. Factually wrong, certainly, but not the level of, say, a drunk YouTube commenter.
But offer up more than a figurative 'fuck off' now and then, if it's not a blatant troll. Really, there's nothing any more or less accurate than half the shit people spin who have little technical inclination toward what these machines can do, be it positive, negative, or hopelessly lost. Point out the flaw in the argument--then, like magic, you have a discussion going.
IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldustI see complete sentences and proper punctuation so, no, it's not exactly incoherent. Factually wrong, certainly, but not the level of, say, a drunk YouTube commenter.
But offer up more than a figurative 'fuck off' now and then, if it's not a blatant troll. Really, there's nothing any more or less accurate than half the shit people spin who have little technical inclination toward what these machines can do, be it positive, negative, or hopelessly lost. Point out the flaw in the argument--then, like magic, you have a discussion going.
What does one do when someone's post is just one big flawed argument and baseless conjecture, though?
I'd say help him understand where he's wrong and actually explain what esram really does and why it wouldn't work in the cases he described. Just some substance. But I understand that takes a lot of work sometimes. The dude obviously thought he was telling the truth. If someone really explained esram and why Xbox chose to go with it, I'd be happy to know, as I have no idea and I don't claim to.
IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldust
Iwil PM datils on esram to u or evil or bish nf need be,
IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldust
Iwil PM datils on esram to u or evil or bish nf need be,
Check your PMs.IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldust
Iwil PM datils on esram to u or evil or bish nf need be,
IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldust
Iwil PM datils on esram to u or evil or bish nf need be,
Was he even talkin to you? Am I reading this jibberish right?IMsory ndont banplees ;but tha whoel post was nfpixeldust
Iwil PM datils on esram to u or evil or bish nf need be,
This the first for me that I see you mention eSRAM negatively.