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Why is Adam Sessler tweeting about being afraid and having to leave the industry?
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I wish they just come out an say, even anonymously, just so it's out there. If there are a lot of people in the industry pissed off about this, they should name and shame and get this shit out there. If anything we've learned over the past few months is that public perception is a powerful thing and gaf doesn't fuck around when it comes to making a scene when a company is being shady.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
People need to have some common sense about this copyright thing. One company like Sony isn't going to cut off the majority of revenue due to restrictions. It seems like a broader issue to me but when you have vague terminology then these "professional game journalists" need to just keep hush and not put out cryptic words and cut to the chase. It does us nor them any service and you see people over react. Especially right now when people are in high tension mode over every little bit of news that can make one platform worse or better.
When you start having 500 posts about lack of background wallpaper then you know things are a little too sensitive.
When you start having 500 posts about lack of background wallpaper then you know things are a little too sensitive.
Devilgunman
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Oh man, he should have left long time ago. He's terrible.
The Bookerman
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Is there a decent summary on this thread cause it's damn hard to follow.
robertsan21
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obviously you have a valid point, and yes, to much shit is going down for nothing, like that wallpaper shit. its scary.
However, if its something serious that Cboat is talking about, that might be hurtful for the consumer, then they should leak it, however it its just some stupid thing like, xboned/PS4 wont have capture feature from launch then its nothing to talk about.
but this seems to be more serious than that, otherwise I dont get why Cboat and Bish hinted at it.
-Journalists are mad about something
-Cant talk about it because they aint journalists.
-Complain about it on Twitter without being clear on what is going on, includes embarrassing tweet of a journalist's wife using his account to complain about how corporations ruined their weekend.
-Seems the issue is a big deal to them and not to us, which is why is a big fucking deal to the guy that had no problem with Xbox One DRM measures.
While I still don't know what's going on I think that Twitter did more wrong than good for this Industry fellow GAFfers.
First many people in this Industry use it for both work and family/social events. They should learn to separate business and work from everything else.
Then it's how many people use it. Instead of being a place to post some news of share an opinion it's now use to vent, rant, tease (even if it's nothing special) and many pointless things. It's almost like they only seek for attention.
I like the videos Sessler put regarding interviews with the devs and so on. He's a decent worker (and maybe because this is why all this fuss is about) but I still believe that many people in the industry need to be more mature and professional, maybe even taking themselves more seriously.
There's a new gen coming for Sony and Microsoft, there will be many news. It's how you display them that defines what kind of worker in the media you are. If you feel tempted to be another Twitter teaser or mix work with emotions than you become another "someone" making some temporary noise, which, if we look back, there was plenty of such things and again, it all started on Twitter.
Will see what Sessler decides to do and will keep myself updated with this fine amazing Community.
First many people in this Industry use it for both work and family/social events. They should learn to separate business and work from everything else.
Then it's how many people use it. Instead of being a place to post some news of share an opinion it's now use to vent, rant, tease (even if it's nothing special) and many pointless things. It's almost like they only seek for attention.
I like the videos Sessler put regarding interviews with the devs and so on. He's a decent worker (and maybe because this is why all this fuss is about) but I still believe that many people in the industry need to be more mature and professional, maybe even taking themselves more seriously.
There's a new gen coming for Sony and Microsoft, there will be many news. It's how you display them that defines what kind of worker in the media you are. If you feel tempted to be another Twitter teaser or mix work with emotions than you become another "someone" making some temporary noise, which, if we look back, there was plenty of such things and again, it all started on Twitter.
Will see what Sessler decides to do and will keep myself updated with this fine amazing Community.
robertsan21
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you forgot about that Cboat quote about xbox having issues and that we wont find out until launch. seems we are talking a bit about everything in this thread
Portugeezer
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They would try to find out who leaked it to you, depending on how big said news was of course.
dang
you forgot about that Cboat quote about xbox having issues and that we wont find out until launch. seems we are talking a bit about everything in this thread
Unsurprisingly, it seems Sessler isnt concerned about that.
That seems ripe for a snowball effect. Not sure how they could stop it in other forms, like Sess(or someone) wearing a Mountain Dew shirt, not really talking about it, but getting a check for spreading the brand around based off views unofficially. Unless I'm thinking about it wrong, just seems a little over specific to target and stop.
VGChampion
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But if they blocked videos from going on YouTube that would effect many fans and supposedly this will have a nominal effect on us.
Omnistalgic
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so what's going on here? I Thought this was about Sessler and others not getting invited to the PS4 review event? Is that the big story/fuss? I'm more pissed off at Yosh saying we can't customize anything at launch.
We have absolutely no idea what's going on. There's several theories, but we don't have any solid answers yet because of stupid cryptic/vague tweeting.
The Bookerman
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Some folks talk about Youtube? PS4 review event, not being able to get debug kits?
What are those rumors about?
Steve Youngblood
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Well, there's still a concern, though. Even though you're not under an NDA, by leaking information, the company in question knows the information has been leaked and is going to seek out the source. Now, if you have any integrity whatsoever, you're obviously not going to reveal your source should you get any inquiry as to where that information came from. However, that doesn't mean the leak can't or won't get traced back to your source.
So, that's why even in the Internet age, it's understandable when people don't want to take risks. I don't think the Internet era of numerous mechanisms for information sharing alleviates concerns as much as some think.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I know what you mean but some people are just going overboard.
These consoles will still do the same great things we've been seeing and run the same great games we know are coming.
Omnistalgic
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gracias my friend...
Conjectures at this point and they may not be related, theres a review event but according to a guy from Kotaku they could easily giving the debug units there.
Bitmap Frogs
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It wouldn't surprise me.
I've said it in the past, with most of the specialized media acting like an extension of their own PR department and the loss of the stranglehold over the traditional media channels due to the rise of the internet, the middlemen (journalists) are probably looking more and more innecessary by the publishers.
Maybe we're not that far from a future where pre-release content is 100% locked by the publisher at all levels and specialized media outlets will either move post-release or become just one guy uploading whatever the publisher sends him.
What about Sir Buttocks? What's stopping him from posting? Everything he posts is probably bound by a NDA of some kind. When I worked in the NFL I was bound by an NDA so as not to affect trades by leaking information, i.e. I saw such and such in the cafeteria today.
People have specific writing and typing styles that could be analyzed, which is why his posts are so hard to read to make it harder to detect who it is.
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qizah
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If you speak up after signing an NDA you put too many things on the line. Most people are not willing to give up their job, the reputation of their employer, etc to tell people what they'll likely find out in a few days anyway.
Cboat, Thruway, BruceLeeRoy and other insiders all need to verify their sources with mods before posting, so as to ensure there are no unecessary and ill informed shitstorms.
My guess is that finding sources to corroborate said stories is nigh on impossible.
Not that I believe it affects the veracity of these insiders claims mind you.
He's not in trouble unless he gets caught.
He's been doing it for a long time, if they haven't stopped his crazy buttocks yet, then he both has the balls to do it, and knows what the fuck he's doing.
I agree, but i also think if you've signed an NDA, then putting out cryptic messages to social media is a dick move and is highly unprofessional.
Brad Grenz
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Maybe Adam heard Rev3 and some other "traditional" outlets are getting passed over for a debug unit while a bunch of the bigger streamers on YouTube and Twitch are getting them. That would suck for Sessler, but one could hardly blame Sony for going where the traffic is.
Sessler tweeted some cryptic stuff, no one knows what it's about so lots of shit getting thrown at walls.
Steve Youngblood
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I have zero interest in speculating about the motivations of insiders and why they do or don't leak some of the information they're privy to. I was just seeking to address the notion that living in the post Wiki-leaks era with stuff like Pastebin wherein there are other avenues to hand off info aside from handing over Manila envelopes of documents in parking garages in the middle of the night doesn't mean that leakers have nothing to fear when leaking information. Perhaps I was misreading the intent of the post (quite possible since I slept poorly and feel awful right now), but there seemed to be a suggestion that this stuff is easy. I.e. tell someone who's not under an NDA, let them share it publicly, and you're done. I was countering that I don't think it's that simple.
Mr Buttocks is clever though by hiding his identity through his crazy writing style. I also suspect Buttocks is not his real name; p
More power to him, he doesn't get everything right but he usually isn't far off.
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qizah
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It is unprofessional. This whole thing has been kind of stupid to watch.
FunkyPajamas
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I've always been secretly and madly in love with you.
Dictator93
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Ding ding ding.
If it is more related to the control of video footage, can you imagine the shitstorm if another Aliens:CM situation arose? Reviews over the top of blatantly touched up/straight up different footage appeared all over the place, with the stipulation being "either run this or you can't have the review at all"?
simplythebest
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Shuhei Yoshida Has No Idea Why Adam Sessler Would Have A Problem With Sony
Hypereides
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Yeah. My bet is that it's Sony.
The Elite
BOSS
Embargoes aren't something that only exist in the gaming industry. You're bound by them because breaking them WILL mean the end of your career.
HOWEVER.
Don't put out cryptic messages that tease the information either. Just keep quiet and then be prepared to discuss it when the information does come out.
shinra-bansho
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Out of curiosity, can NeoGAF be forced to comply if someone is trying to identify leaks in their organisation?
Didn't Microsoft already start preventing monetization of footage of their first party titles? I remember Rooster Teeth confirmed they had a specific deal in place so they could continue to make Red vs Blue.
pants
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Investigative journalists - We have none of these in the industry
Journalists - We have a couple willing to ask the hard questions
Reporters - We have many of these, reporting on the latest game releases and news
Critics - We have tons of these reporting their opinion on the quality of games
The problem here is you guys are expecting a) and b) from the industry, and it doesn't really exists.
Journalists - We have a couple willing to ask the hard questions
Reporters - We have many of these, reporting on the latest game releases and news
Critics - We have tons of these reporting their opinion on the quality of games
The problem here is you guys are expecting a) and b) from the industry, and it doesn't really exists.
You were clear and I understood what you were saying. I was getting at that CBOAT is already validated and trustworthy, thus capable of leaking the information. I also understand it may be a particularly threatening NDA and that is why some of these journalists are up in arms.
I'm betting this has something to do with video monetization limitations. If it does that would be terrible especially for a site like giant bomb.
Possibly forcing reviewers to sign documents that only allow them to review early with strict limitations on video monetization going forward.
Just surmising here.
Possibly forcing reviewers to sign documents that only allow them to review early with strict limitations on video monetization going forward.
Just surmising here.
No, the problem is that it doesn't exist.
WhoaIsThatMars
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Is there any word on a "review event" also happening for Xbone?
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