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[UnObtainium17]

No pointless 10 minutes desert walk.
No pointless 10 minutes drugued in a market walk
No pointless 10 minutes hallucination at the end of the game.

It could be good!

Drake was high moments in the game was like 45 mins combined.. GOd that was awful.
I like the desert walking though.

From Wafflemonster on Facepunch
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1325168&p=42868670

damn that was good find. cant wait.


I'm also hoping for a mechanics closer to TLOU than Uncharted. day 1!

To Richmond, dont listen to U3 haters. U3 has its faults (w.c game doesnt? ) but still was a great game, U2 was just one heck of a game to top.

That was the best moment of the entire game. Loved it.

For me that was one of the best moments (and best cutscene) in the Uncharted franchise.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Uncharted 3 was awesome for this moment alone

And the parts that came right before that. U3 had the highest highs of the series and the lowest lows.

 

[purnoman3000]

Everyone saying this isn't uncharted 4, just uncharted....? Did you all miss the 4 scrawled into the skull at the end of the teaser?




.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Look, we get it. You don't like UC3. Now please move on and contribute to what this thread is about or stay out of it.

Thanks.

So in a thread where the director of UC3 is heading this game as the first thing announced about it, I am not allowed to talk about not liking UC3.

The OP should be updated with a mod's note to clarify what this thread is actually about because I am not sure I understood that certain subjects were off limits despite being mentioned in the title.

 

[Mariolee]

Taking a chapter from Sakurai and naming it Uncharted for PS4 for those "four" puns.

Just Sony copying more from Nintendo.

 

[ZeroRay]

Uncharted 3 was a badly designed game that has already aged much worse than the first two. Most defenders of the game that I've seen here can't even objectively articulate a counterargument and get brash and defensive pretty quick.

Now, am I going to blame Justin Richmond, et al? A little. But I still believe it was mostly to do with ND simply stating a release date way too early and paying for it.

There were glimpses of great ideas within UC3 such as the ship graveyard and the tank on support beams, but they weren't executed well - again - due to what I hope was a lack of time to test and polish.

 

[kasane]

All signs point to:

-pirates
-catholicism
-freemasons

 

[RoadHazard]

Uncharted 3 was awesome for this moment alone

That was pretty great, except for Elena looking weird. No idea why they had to change her, she looked pretty much perfect in U2.

I really liked U3 overall, it just wasn't as good as 2.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

has anyone done a rewind analysis or anything?

 

[Spinluck]

Every thread leading up to the release of this game will probably be a this Uncharted is better than that Uncharted dick waving contest. Don't care, cause I get me another Uncharted :-3 from Naughty Dog. Part of me wants Drake back, but I'd be ok if they do a reboot or bring Drake back and allow us to play flash backs.

I hope they go all out on MP.

 

[tino]

If its about the OG Drake, its going to be allovermyface.jpg

I wish DMC franchise had gone in similar direction: reboot with Dante's father as protagonist.

 

[Stark]

Every thread leading up to the release of this game will probably be a this Uncharted is better than that Uncharted dick waving contest. Don't care, cause I get me another Uncharted :-3 from Naughty Dog. Part of me wants Drake back, but I'd be ok if they do a reboot or bring Drake back and allow us to play flash backs.

I hope they go all out on MP.

Even if it's Sir Francis, I bet he'll look like Drake and be voiced by Nolan North. Probably won't feel that much different on that aspect.

 

[Zalman]

Personally, I'd like to see Drake return. He's a pretty likeable character.

 

[MYE]

NooooooooOOOOoooo

Not Uncharted goddammit ND!!!! Ugh

 

[Spinluck]

Wow, that would be funny.

But a bit ridiculous don't you think? Unless Sir Francis is a charming smart ass.

 

[LastNac]

I've really grown to dislike how ridiculously little credit they got for finally making true on the promise, (not to mention numerous request from everyone) of adding nice exploration and puzzles to Uncharted. UC3 was great in this regard. So many nice puzzles, so many slow moments where you could explore and soak in the environment. Whole first half of UC3 almost was like that, while the puzzles in UC1 and 2 were so trivial in comparison. In that sense, I like to say that they've finally put some more adventure in their action adventure game. I'm not sure if it's different voices coming out of woodworks after the UC3 was released, but It sure sounded like a lot of people just really wanted more shooting like in UC2.

Yes, UC3 was not as cohesive as 2, but it had other qualities for which it should be recognized for.

Its my favorite of the 3 because of the emphasis placed on those slower moments. I also loved the adventure feel that this one really gave off in comparison to the almost static settings of the other. I loved the animations and the fact that Drake seemed more involved with all of his movements and interactions.

I will never get the audience that goes to Uncharted just for the shooting, it baffles me. Frankly, if someone just wants more shooting than they should go somewhere else.

 

[Shai-Tan]

I'm excited to see how it turns out. There are a lot of directions they can go in to improve the formula. I think the rush to fall release held back UC3 in some ways so hopefully they get the time to experiment. It seemed like they didn't get enough time to polish and perfect the changes to the combat loop in that game and the story has become a little too much of a window dressing for a series of set pieces. In good action movies the action scenes have a story structure or are in context of what happened before and what happens next.. It isn't only an excuse to show cool stuff happen. They have always understood the importance of the characters but the relationships aren't as satisfying as they could be. I think I could appreciate the minimalism more if there was less status quo in their banter. We got attached to the Nate, Elena and Sully characters in the first game through learning about them as they learn about each other. By the third game it's like let's just put this in stasis while we save the world. I don't think this sequelitus is unique to this series as a lot of action series go down that path where the stakes are raised so high that the character development gets crowded out.

 

[Creaking]

While after playing Max Payne 3, I do think Naughty Dog could certainly tighten up their shooting (though their cover system is infinitely better), just the thought of some Uncharted locales with that Naughty Dog fidelity...

 

[Stark]

Wow, that would be funny.

But a bit ridiculous don't you think? Unless Sir Francis is a charming smart ass.

Who knows. I know it's certainly not the first time.

But at the very least, Nolan North would definitely be voicing him. I'm fine with either. I think this new Uncharted will be a blend of the best of The Last of Us and previous Uncharted's but expanded upon.

 

[RedRedSuit]

Its my favorite of the 3 because of the emphasis placed on those slower moments. I also loved the adventure feel that this one really gave off in comparison to the almost static settings of the other. I loved the animations and the fact that Drake seemed more involved with all of his movements and interactions.

I will never get the audience that goes to Uncharted just for the shooting, it baffles me. Frankly, if someone just wants more shooting than they should go somewhere else.

I don't "just" want more shooting, but I do want

(a) gameplay of substance;

and

(b) the shooting, when present, to take place in well designed battles.

Uncharted 3 simultaneously had less shooting -- which it replaced with too much obnoxious walking forward/running forward while being chased, and with not enough cool puzzles -- but also was significantly worse at level design when it came to the shooting. So basically it was a regression on (a) and a regression on (b) without much to compensate for it.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Everyone saying this isn't uncharted 4, just uncharted....? Did you all miss the 4 scrawled into the skull at the end of the teaser?

Um, what? It's four strokes being etched onto the forehead. Hardly a numeral.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

More of the same, please. And by same, I mean 2.

Played through all three for the first time in June/July this year, loved every minute (except for parts of 3) and I would very much prefer if they stick with the tried-and-true formula.

Don't change a thing. I will buy.

 

[Claude Kenni]

Leave the thread please...

No dissent allowed? Even when it's buried amongst the hype?

 

[timetokill]

Bummer. Wish I could be excited for this, but I just can't. Was hoping for a new IP.
I hope this game ends up being good and all but Uncharted just inspires a "meh" reaction in me.

That said, if it's a new character that's a good start.

 

[Tagg9]

Everyone saying this isn't uncharted 4, just uncharted....? Did you all miss the 4 scrawled into the skull at the end of the teaser?

What, this? I don't think so.

 

[The Praiseworthy]

Finally we will see the true power of the next gen... please a teaser trailer!

 

[gdt]

Excite! I'll admit I'll be disappointed if we don't get Nate/Elena/Sully.

 

[nampad]

A new IP would have been great but Uncharted also makes me happy, I love the series. If it's about Sir Francis Drake it would even be both

I just hope they fix the gunplay from Uncharted 3. Let me shoot those helmet's off and go for a headshot again instead of the heavys being bullet sponges.

 

[Famassu]

And the parts that came right before that. U3 had the highest highs of the series and the lowest lows.

Uncharted 1, as a whole, is the lowest low of the franchise. Not even at its worst is U3 as bad as Uncharted 1 is at its best. It's so bad in comparison to 2, 3 and Golden Abyss. It was originally a good start for the franchise (with plenty of flaws), but in retrospect & with the advancements they've made since, it's not that good a game.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

People still going on about Team A and B in Nd lol. Such ignorance.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

I hope this is not about Francis, I love Nate, Elena and Sully, they should start a new Franchise if they want to do a game about pirates -,-

 

[Stark]

People still going on about Team A and B in Nd lol. Such ignorance.

Especially considering a lot of "U3" staff worked on TLOU.

 

[JimiNutz]

On the one hand Im pleased that it's not just Uncharted 4 with same characters etc.

Not gonna lie though, pretty crushed that Naughty Dog is doing ANOTHER Uncharted so soon. Give me something completely new for this new generation dammit!!!

 

[rdrr gnr]

Bummer. Wish I could be excited for this, but I just can't. Was hoping for a new IP.
I hope this game ends up being good and all but Uncharted just inspires a "meh" reaction in me.

That said, if it's a new character that's a good start.

No.

 

[NearRivers]

Yesssss! So excited for this, and very relieved that Naughty Dog are still at the helm of the series. This is exactly what i needed. Along with The Last of Us DLC they're knocking it out of the park and almost singlehandedly making gaming worth it for me atm. Now to spend far too long analysing the teaser.

 

[LuuKyK]

On the one hand Im pleased that it's not just Uncharted 4 with same characters etc.

Not gonna lie though, pretty crushed that Naughty Dog is doing ANOTHER Uncharted so soon. Give me something completely new for this new generation dammit!!!

They gave you The Last of Us. And U3 is two years old already, by the time U4 releases it will probably 3, so I don't get the AGAIN complaint. Its a lucrative series, you honestly expected Sony to drop it? And ND already proved it can handle two projects at the same time, so after this Uncharted game there will be a new IP most probably.

 

[ZeroRay]

Especially considering a lot of "U3" staff worked on TLOU.

Lead designer on UC3 was also lead designer on TLOU.

Again, I think it's mostly a lack of time that made UC3 as bad as it was. But UC3 left a sour, sour taste in my mouth. The disappointment was almost as bad MGS4 was.

Uncharted 1, as a whole, is the lowest low of the franchise. Not even at its worst is U3 as bad as Uncharted 1 is at its best. It's so bad in comparison to 2, 3 and Golden Abyss. It was originally a good start for the franchise (with plenty of flaws), but in retrospect & with the advancements they've made since, it's not that good a game.

Uncharted 1 is a solid TPS with the best AI in the series. Mechanics are a bit loose and hit detection is questionable, but I sure as hell enjoyed my time with it a lot more than I did with 3.

Beaten it like 7 times.

 

[Mdk7]

Frankly? I'm a little disappointed.
Not that i don't like the series (even if i'm honestly a little tired of it), but i did wanted to see Naughty Dog doing something brand new.
:/

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I don't get the feeling that it's new protagonists at all. The narrator in the video to me is someone who has a bone to pick with Nathan for some wrong (real or perceived) in the past.

 

[TEH-CJ]

God damn it...

what happened to the space game ND was rumoured to be developing?

 

[RedRedSuit]

They gave you The Last of Us. And U3 is two years old already, by the time U4 releases it will probably 3, so I don't get the AGAIN complaint. Its a lucrative series, you honestly expected Sony to drop it? And ND already proved it can handle two projects at the same time, so after this Uncharted game there will be a new IP most probably.

Ha, I like the edited in "most probably."

Nah, most probably there will be no new IPs from them for a while. They gambled with TLoU and won, actually somehow outselling Uncharted -- they're going to ride that one next.

 

[terrier]

can't wait to see some real gameplay, Uncharted is one of the games that defined past generation, and i am sure ND learned from the few mistakes that made U3 not as acclaimed as U2. That said, haters gonna hate no matter what they do so Uncharted fans, i m sure we will enjoy the game,there hasn't been an Uncharted game for a long time now, i am sure they will deliver.

 

[RyanardoDaVinci]

Pretty fucking much.

Although, I did enjoy the SP in U3. MP will most likely be shit though. I don't get how they ruined the near perfection that was pre-1.05 U2.

ND just needs to invite the GAF crew over when they have the MP up and running, we'll find every speck of unbalance and buggery and help them to get Uncharted MP back where it belongs -- pre-1.05 and no kickback, loadout, powerplay, Crutch Booster, Tbolt bullshit.

I'm sorry, but all of you Justin Richmond/ Uncharted 3 haters can GTFO(nicest way I can think to put it.)

Don't piss on my parade. I am getting what I want from the team that I want to make it. Keep on dribbling that nonsensical hyperbole. I will buy what ever copies you guys don't.

Please follow UC3 as a template, ND, please. I want to do more than just shootbang.

Richmond deserves every bit of hate he gets because he was the U2 MP Director, which means he was in charge of the biggest pull-the-rug-out-from-under-you I've ever fucking seen. The shit of 1.05 completely changed the game, making the fundamental aspect of the game (i.e. traversing shit) practically worthless by essentially making everyone giant walking heads -- and this was done FOUR MONTHS into the life of the MP! How does that work?!

Also, the complete inability for his U3 team to not notice the glaring flaws with the aiming, at launch and throughout all development, actually. Interestingly, the aiming problem was nonexistent in both the beta and launch MP; so, how the devs can bounce between modes every damn day of the week and not notice the difference is completely beyond me -- especially when, the very first time you aim a gun in the game, I literally exclaimed, "The FUCK is this?!"

U3 SP was decent, it did a few things (graphics, ... uh, sand?) better than its predecessors, but it did other things (story, pacing, set pieces, combat, animations) much worse.

If they can make U4 twice as good as U3, we'll have something half as good as U2.

 

[Mr. Fix]

I could have sworn that Druckmann confirmed two teams at his keynote.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Not gonna lie though, pretty crushed that Naughty Dog is doing ANOTHER Uncharted so soon. Give me something completely new for this new generation dammit!!!

If you think 3 years between releases is too soon, I have some Ubisoft franchises I'd like to introduce you to.

 

[disastermouse]

Was kind of hoping they'd do something different.

Yep. Still willing to give it a chance.

 

[LastNac]

I don't "just" want more shooting, but I do want

(a) gameplay of substance;

and

(b) the shooting, when present, to take place in well designed battles.

Uncharted 3 simultaneously had less shooting -- which it replaced with too much obnoxious walking forward/running forward while being chased, and with not enough cool puzzles -- but also was significantly worse at level design when it came to the shooting. So basically it was a regression on (a) and a regression on (b) without much to compensate for it.

This is the one series(as seen with Uncharted 3) that offers the one experience I want the most from this entire medium. Why can't I just have one for me and others like me?

Uncharted 3 had the best puzzles of the series. The fact that you just chalk up the desert scene as "obnoxious " shows the context is lost on you. I'm analytical in nature, to look at things like T.S. Eliot and see how it fits here. I have a love for classic cinema, some of the dynamic camera angles are breathtaking, from watching a rat crawl on pipes to the desert. I love the melee combat, seeing Drake's animation and contextual sensitivity are a real treat.

At the end of the day, if you are looking for a shooter you can move on to the countless ones that exist, but this is why I spend $400. Experiences like Uncharted 3(and hopefully UC4) dont just sell me a Playstation, they keep me invested in this medium both financially and emotionally. It might sound melodramatic, but if these experiences didn't exist I would have no reason to still want to pick up a controller.

As long as the exist, so will my interest and passion.

 

[TheBear]

The unchartered games left me a bit cold, but the last of us was amazing so hopefully some of that magic rubs off

 

[Yagharek]

Uncharted 3 was a disappointing game for me. The supposedly poignant story moments fell flat, the platforming was still linear and has no room for alternative paths, and it was glitchy. I ended up falling through scenery especially in the latter escape sequences.

Hopefully this one is of far better quality like part 2.

 

[Stark]

Lead designer on UC3 was also lead designer on TLOU.

Again, I think it's mostly a lack of time that made UC3 as bad as it was. But UC3 left a sour, sour taste in my mouth. The disappointment was almost as bad MGS4 was.

Yeah, exactly. The "TLOU" staff also probably have moved onto 'Uncharted' they shift around a lot. And I agree, it was probably because of the time constraints. I remember SolidSnakex posting a transcript of Wells & Balestra talking about the nightmare they had with the game and it certainly sounded like a big negative effect on the games development.