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Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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SkullHydra
Member
Well the Up-B needs to change somehow. It's useless right now...
I'd rather he doesn't show up in any shape, form, or fashion.
AnkiRendan
Member
How do fans over there feel about Zoroark's chances? Does he have a lot of support?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Honestly if we can have one more sonic rep I dont think Ill pick one and I love sonic...!! 
You just can't handle the superior hedgehog with angsty back story.
With the Rosalina reveal, it made me wonder if the team doesn't think up of interesting fighting styles first, and then match it to a character.
Or wonder red. "It would be too hard to implement a character from a 3D brawler into nintendo's 2d brawler. It simply can't be done."
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
That would make sense for any other fighter, except smash brothers
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I would challenge you to a fight but we probably wouldn't be able to agree on which field to battle in.
I have a thing about some of those Sonic characters. Shadow to me just feels so lazy, on Sonic Team's part.
He's dark Sonic, with a gun! And Time manipulating powers, and red streaks in his hair...
Leather jackets and pistols.... Might aswell give him tats, and what not. So "cool".
Not worse than Silver, though...
I'm not at all sure what Mac's moveset would look like, but Punch-Out is easily Nintendo's biggest untapped trove of stylish, beloved characters, and it's one of the few franchises that goes all the way back to their arcade days. The series ought to have someone around. Mac's the obvious choice, being the player character, but it'd also be a lot of fun to see someone like Soda Popinski, Super Macho Man, or King Hippo take the field. Or hell, Glass Joe for the comedy value. Opponents have a wider range of abilities to work with, too.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
He already showed up as a assist trophy in brawl, chances of him coming back again is...
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I cant believe I read some junk like this...
TheCongressman1
Member
Shadow is a perfect example of bad character design. Silver is even more perfect.
I thought Shadow was pretty cool in SA2, but he just kept getting worse as time went on.
So yeah, Knuckles or Tails would be much more fit showing up somehow.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
nah Chaos or bust.
Neat a playable mutated chao.
RealDeadOne
Member
If Lucas and Ness can learn PK moves from their teammates then Little Mac could take some of the flashy signature moves from some of the enemies he's faced. He could totally do that separate-into-three-guys thing the Indian guy does, for example
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I have made this same point. I also think that utilizing star punches in his moveset will give him that Nintendo flair, and keep him from seeming too pedestrian.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I think this would make a solid newcomer cast:
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Megaman
Pacman
Mii
Little Mac
Rosalina
Palutena
Takamaru
Chrom & Lucina
Ridley
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
*maybe an additional Zelda or Pokemon rep and this assumes they can make Ridley work which I firmly think they could if they wanted.
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Megaman
Pacman
Mii
Little Mac
Rosalina
Palutena
Takamaru
Chrom & Lucina
Ridley
Mewtwo
Dixie Kong
*maybe an additional Zelda or Pokemon rep and this assumes they can make Ridley work which I firmly think they could if they wanted.
I can't speak for Japanese fans but I believe its important how marketing has quietly but noticeably moved away from using him for advertising. He was pushed hard as the next Lucario but it ultimately failed. I mentioned it before but I could see them doing something interesting like making Zoroark transform into any character on the roster but not allow the player choose what character you can transform into for that round. It's an unique character idea that I could see Sakurai go for but other than that I'm not sure I'd want another Lucario/Mewtwo style pokemon appear when there is so much variety and choices to choose from.
How?
bad character design would mean people wouldn't like him. He is like most popular sonic character.. besides sonic.
Apparently everyone else needs to start rocking either blue or red and black.
You don;'t have to like it, to say he design isn't effective is a damn lie.
That is an interesting opinion.
Besides going fast they aren't that much alike.
Besides looking alike. which I would counter with this. They are the same animal. In sonic either you are the same
color
Knuckles reconnected peeps in the comic
And blaze the cat and big the cat
Shape
Knuckles people in the game
The hedgehogs
Or both
Vanilla and cream
This is why I never got the " his design is lazy" actually his design for people of the same species is not only consitant with in the sonic artstyle, he is visually distictive unlike knuckles people who just various shades of reds. The bunnies who are just .. vanilla and cream colored ( hehehe ) . And the cats that are just purple, cuz they cool like that.
He does not have a jacket, he should have a dante jacket. The fact that he doesn't seems like a missed opportunity.
Also doesn't tails have a plane with machine guns on it?
However while I do not believe his game meant to portray him as serious as everyone took him. Or tried, they failed at communicating that, so I completely understand you not liking him for that.
That is big the cat.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
We must decapitate Zelda to save Peach!
kunonabi
Member
I'd be all for pacman if he was the sad-sack husband again. Not interested otherwise.
Switch Dixie for Simon Belmont and I'd find that to be a perfect roster update.
TheCongressman1
Member
A lot of people like him, and a lot of people hate him. That doesn't really have anything to do with it.
First of all he was never really an interesting character, he's a pallet swap of Sonic who takes the role of an antihero, and his dark mysterious past is his motivation. That kind of trope can sometimes be forgiven or fitting, but after Shadow the Hedgehog I can absolutely not take that character seriously.
As for the way he looks, black has never seemed fitting for a main character in Sonic's universe. There's a reason the original trio were primary colors. Black and red is garish.
That's about all I'm going to say on that.
No, you just misunderstood me. My comment was supposed to diss Mike Jones
I don't mind Impa since I never switch to Zelda while playing as Sheik, but having both is as redundant as having 2 Links.
SoulUnison
Banned
nah Chaos or bust.
If Sonic gets another rep and it's not Tails there's simply no justice in the world.
I think there is more interesting Sonic characters out there. Knuckles, Bean, and Bark. Knack, and even Amy.
And it's not hard to be popular in the Sonic fandom. Most of their fanbase eat up that kind of stuff, no offense to anyone who likes them. But then again, I could just be being an Old-fart with my dislike for some of the newer characters. lol
Actually it does , it means his design was effective.
That is subjective, and people would argue other wise. But please assert your views as if they are the one true view.
Let me quote myself
Hmm seems like someone forgot that shadow isn't the only person who shares a species. And looks like another character because of that, and he still has visual distinction hmm.
I hope not, that wasn't a very strong argument.
Just kind of a 4chan-eque spew of buzzwords with little explanation.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
What about a chili dog?
I'm thinking that Paper Mario would be a natural and obvious choice for a newcomer. The character is distinct enough versus its progenitor (like Toon Link), and has starred in four of his own games now. There is also great potential for interesting paper-themed moves and stages, plus 2D characters are a concept already well established by Mr. Game and Watch.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I am unsure the argument against Little Mac that does not also apply to Villager or, hell, even Marth.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Duck Hunt Dog is more likely than a second Sonic rep.
Nobody retires Big and lives.
Come on son.
Actually it kind of is, the only other character to become super popular to any degree close to shadow is blaze. Japan however despite not really liking sonic, likes silver for some reason he still isn't very much liked, but they really like silver for some dumb reason.. Most characters get pushed to the side or forgotten even old ones. Shadow and Blaze and cream to some degree managed to cement them selves in sonic.
I like big the cat.
But I still concider him a scourge the the planet.
Just a giant add for sega fishing games
I could go for one of those.
Sonic always knew what was up.
I used to be a Mii proponent, but after Wii Fit trainer (casual char) and Villager (player avatar char), I don't really want Mii in anymore.
Awesome tempura wizard avatar btw. He or Eggplant wizard NEED to be an assist trophy.
I agree. I know people are sick of mario reps, but there are so many good characters left. Kamek, Professor E. Gadd (using all of his inventions), baby bros (ice climbers clone), paper mario, etc.
EmCeeGramr
Member
why are there sonic adventure characters in this thread
theprodigy
Member
because SmashGAF
BassForever
Member
I missed the days of people photoshopping Naruto into images