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Albert Penello downplays XBO/PS4 difference in Tomb Raider; "we just shipped"

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Yoshi

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The difference between 30fps and 60fps is minor? If that's the case, drop your price to 250€, because, in fact, a factor of two on a very important aspect is apparently minor.
 

Beardz

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"You know what? Their console (PS4) has more raw power than ours and that's ok because we allocated our resources on making a better ecosystem that I think (in the long run) you will notice and appreciate.

This is a marathon not a speed race and based on that and the things to come, we're confident we can deviler the value of being part of the Xbox family

Your friend and PR Albert Penello".
 

Duxxy3

Member
What qualifies as a big deal then? 720p v. 1080p no big deal. 30fps v. 60fps, no big deal. If these things are no big deal, then how can you sell the XB1/PS4 as a "big deal" compared to the previous generations? Aight cool, no big difference between x360 and XB1, stick with x360 then.

Exactly, if the difference is no big deal... why not just keep your old console instead? Why buy next gen?
 
Is there any reason he wasn't banned for, what is and has been, lying and deceiving through PR speak on GAF?

Non-Microsoft employed "shills" have been banned for the same kind of posts, shouldn't this apply even more to an actual Microsoft Director?
He doesn't actually post since launch.

I wonder why.
 

AkuMifune

Banned
Everybody wants to focus on frame rate, there is Tomb Raider, there is a resolution thing going on and OK, there could be a lot of reasons why that could be true...

Hah! I hate to kick a dead horse, but this is hilarious. It should be shocking to see someone from such a large corporation act like a clueless petulant child and yet, here we are again.
 
“I think if you look at the title which we launch, which were multiplatform titles. The bulk of them were the same. I think there were 12 titles were released on both platforms [PS4 and Xbox One], leaving three, all of them had the same performance on both boxes. Everybody wants to focus on frame rate, there is Tomb Raider, there is a resolution thing going on and OK, there could be a lot of reasons why that could be true but we are just a [few] weeks in, we just shipped, it’s a long generation. People who bought an Xbox One are going to be in for an awesome generation of games that are only going to get better. I think these little things get way overblown versus like the quality of the games and the real differences in experiences which are pretty minor,” he said.

I have a feeling, for Albert, it's going to feel even longer.
 
People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. They CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think they don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way they’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

Albert?
 
Albert Penello said: "I will ask two questions of the detractors, honest questions.

2. If it comes out after we launch that the difference between 3rd party games is maybe single-digit FPS between the two platforms, will I get an apology or concession?"

Are you trying to tell me that Albert was actually dropping PR crap? I cannot believe it, he would not do that...
 

Carl

Member
So he thinks Ryse is the best looking game on any platform, and because of that opinion, they're both as powerful as eachother...

Makes sense
 

Bgamer90

Banned
Were any launch multiplatform games the EXACT same on both platforms? Some differences were more minor than others, but I'm pretty sure they all favoured the PS4 in either performance, resolution, or effects

Majority of them were 1080p on both but they had better visual effects on the PS4.

I could only see smaller digital titles being exactly the same on both.
 

Mrbob

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I see Albert disappeared from GAF and back to his Xbox haven because he knows we won't put up with his garbage commentary.
 
Microsoft should have learned by now to just keep their damn mouth shut about things like this and try to talk up the real, legitimate positives of their system. Unfortunately, graphics superiority is not an area where they beat their competition.

Continually trying to spin their weakness as "not that bad" continues a narrative of them being on the defensive and trying to downplay their weaknesses vs hearing about why Xbox one is a great system worth buying.

Basically, just shut up about it already.
 

chrislowe

Member
actually, i bought a graphicscard with DDR3 to my PC last summer. It SUCKED on framerates, and I didnt have so much money so I bought the same graphicscard but with DDR5 instead.. it worked awesome so....
 

amardilo

Member
I don't really think Albert Penello can say much else really.

So far the Xbox One seems weaker than the PS4, but as he works for Xbox I don't think he can come out and say they made a weaker box and there is nothing they can do about it now.
 

Goon Boon

Banned
They should be proud that they got a slower version of the PS4 version, instead of an up port of a Wii U version, even if its only because the Wii U version doesn't exist.
 

alterno69

Banned
Someone list all the multi platform games available and their differences, he says it's only three games that perform better on PS4, i doubt it but i'm too lazy to check.
 

cilonen

Member
Does Ryse look better than Killzone?

I need gifs.

Thread hilarity aside, Killzone does have little rough patches that jumped out at me. The textures of the supposedly flowing traffic on the roads of the city as you do that epic flyover at the start jumped out at me as being oddly lower res than the rest of the environment for some reason.
 

Takao

Banned
I like the idea that only Microsoft's hardware efficiency can improve over time, because the PS4 totally wasn't launched a few weeks ago too ...
 

Revven

Member
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Unbelievable. I just... can't...

It boils down to:

"I believe we have some secret sauce that hasn't been used yet!"
 

swcpig

Banned
Ugh. If you have something new to say or some secret detail that you know and no one else knows then just figure out a way actually say it.

Reality is there is a disparity between the two platforms. Accept it, move on, and promote other differences like NFL streaming, upcoming exclusives, and the like. Man... every time he says something it's deflection, spin, and then just emptiness.

If it's about games, which it really is, just shut up and let the games do the talking.
 
I don't really think Albert Penello can say much else really.

So far the Xbox One seems weaker than the PS4, but as he works for Xbox I don't think he can come out and say they made a weaker box and there is nothing they can do about it now.

Sometimes, it's better to say nothing.
 

impact

Banned
What do you guys expect him to say? "Yes, all multiplatform titles run and look superior on PS4. at a cheaper price and will continue to do so. Buy Xbox One in stores now!" MS pays him to spew bullshit so that's what he does! Wish I had that job.
 

liquidtmd

Banned
and I know what is going behind the scenes and I have access to more information about some of this thing than a lot of people...

and this makes any difference between 30fps and 60fps on a specific game....how?

Keep going Al, you're doing great!

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He seems to imply there are current issues with xbone development ecosystem which may be hindering it's gaming performance.


Hopefully, Ms can iron these issues out.

Yeah, pretty interesting that he's willing to admit there are development issues to reduce the controversy about hardware differences. We'll have to see in a year from now.
 
Microsoft should have learned by now to just keep their damn mouth shut about things like this and try to talk up the real, legitimate positives of their system. Unfortunately, graphics superiority is not an area where they beat their competition.

Continually trying to spin their weakness as "not that bad" continues a narrative of them being on the defensive and trying to downplay their weaknesses vs hearing about why Xbox one is a great system worth buying.

Basically, just shut up about it already.

Exactly, but unfortunately for us, this is actually a good way for PR people to get more money out of MS.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
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Seriously beyond this gif I just cant express myself correctly after reading those 2 quotes from our good friend Mr. Penello.
 
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