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DF on Zelda Switch: Docked has major frame drops, portable doesn't (no score talk)
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7DollarHagane
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I do think the porting process from wiiu to switch caused some of these issues and it being a launch game is part of it too.
Considering the power of the docked unit it's really not logical to see it struggling with physics that the wiiu handles pretty well.
Considering the power of the docked unit it's really not logical to see it struggling with physics that the wiiu handles pretty well.
In massive, complex open worlds like this one, there are plenty of things going on behind the scenes that could be bottlenecks.
There are drops that happen due to stuff on screen and there are other drops that are due to these bottlenecks.
Yeah. Open-World and physics-y stuff are both problematic, and this is very much both of those. The game is checking for a lot of possible interactions.
From what I know of him, the answer is he wouldn't. I think.
Hopefully they can patch it to pick up the frame rate stability. I'll be playing it portable when I eventually get a switch, but it sucks for anyone wanting to play it docked.
It's a Zelda game, and we saw Zoras in the trailer.
EatinOlives
Member
Playing on WiiU. It's playable but definitely not what I'd consider "fine" and certainly not "rare". Plenty of areas that will always have bad drops all the time, particularly villages, forests, and nearly every time it rains heavily.
No, the resolution never changes. It might be the screen displaying minor interlacing lines when panning or moving quickly,
Everything in the world is persistent. There are visual tricks employed, but for the most part, there are thousands of concurrent assets, each with their own physics, and everything is being handled simultaneously.
I think some people are heavily discounting how impressive the technology is for a handheld; Zelda is also an incredibly demanding game for any device with its myriad assets, so 900p docked is tech wizardry itself.
I will, however, concede that a certain location in the game (without spoiling) is borderline unplayable when docked; handheld is fine.
You're missing the point. If Nintendo hadn't of implemented double buffer vsync, the game would probably be dropping a lot less frames. Double buffering means that even when there is a slight drop of say 1fps, the game drops 10fps instead. If they got rid of the double buffering we would be seeing more subtle drops like in other open world games, but instead we get this.
Looks the same to me.
I'm at work, can anyone type up their findings?
Switch holds up better in stressful situations than the WiiU. Kakarito village, or whatever it is called, has barely any issues in Switch.
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-shadow-
Member
Overworld seems mostly fine until explosions happen and both will tank. WiiU will stay around the 20fps for a bit longer than Switch. Kakariko Village seems fine on the Switch with a few stutters and the WiiU runs pretty much non stop at 20.
ShadowFox08
Member
Honestly.. when has nintendo ever patched bugs due to performance issues like frame rates?
No doubt. The Korok Forest is a gongshow. Having played dozens of hours in handheld mode it was a shock to try it docked and see the drops. Handheld only for me.
Skittzo0413
Member
Didn't they do exactly that with Splatoon?
Silent_Ocarina
Member
This reads like a bunch of nonsense. A thread about it was locked too, so we probably shouldn't put much stock into this guy.
The performance is certainly weird though. The game basically freezes almost every time I hit a Moblin down.
Garou
Member
That was for the hub-area, not gameplay.
OriginalPoe
Banned
Honestly, the game is better in handheld mode for Switch IMO. I wish they gave an unlocked framerate option so it didn't hard lock to 20/15/10 or whatever it does.
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive to framerate, but in this game's case, I just don't give a fuck.
My favorite area in Dark Souls was Blight Town and that ran like horseshit. If a game is great enough, my brain just lets this kinda shit slide.
Skittzo0413
Member
That really doesn't matter... They patched a game to improve framerate. That's what the poster I responded to was asking about.
flipswitch
Member
One welcome change gaming on the Switch is we don't have to worry about downloading huge updates. So it's like the good old days 
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.LordOcidax
Member
Nintendo devs>>>>>>>>x1000>>>Unnamed dev. Easy.
Skittzo0413
Member
I dunno, this was explicitly said at GDC:
If they literally did no optimization I'd buy this story.
I dunno, this was explicitly said at GDC:
If they literally did no optimization I'd buy this story.
Yeah, if built from the ground up I have no doubt this game could be 60fps on Switch. Technically it's very basic in many regards, the art style is absolutely carrying it and is the reason for its stunning beauty at times.
It's my great hope that there is another mainline Zelda game on Switch that is 60fps.
Garrett Hawke
Member
that shacknews link sounds like fud of the highest order.
3d zelda has never been 60fps.
3d zelda has never been 60fps.
Garrett Hawke
Member
this doesn't even make sense though?I dunno, this was explicitly said at GDC:
If they literally did no optimization I'd buy this story.
of course they optimised it, it runs better than the wii u ver in undocked switch mode + they would've had to port it to a different architecture for the switch anyway
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I'm not saying a game made from the ground up for Switch wouldn't perform better, but I certainly wouldn't put much stock into an unnamed developer from Bplus Games.I dunno, this was explicitly said at GDC:
If they literally did no optimization I'd buy this story.
lwilliams3
Member
Considering that the game was getting developed for both consoles and they didn't want the two to look or feel different, this is implying that they got it running with brute force.
ShadowFox08
Member
There's no doubt they were trying to cut corners, save money, and rush it for switch launch.. But I wonder how heavily they were thinking about not alienating wii u owners who wanted it on the wii u.
When you compare twilight princess on the cube vs Wii, the Wii version got the exact same treatment also, with the difference being only that the wii supported wide screen, it was mirrored. and had motion controls vs the cube.
When you compare twilight princess on the cube vs Wii, the Wii version got the exact same treatment also, with the difference being only that the wii supported wide screen, it was mirrored. and had motion controls vs the cube.
I wouldn't. It's not worth sacrificing the resolution gains for the 95% of the time it runs fine. If anything they just should have given more leeway to the adaptive resolution.
Leatherface
Member
Well to be fair the hub area is really the only place that had an issue.
Well, this Zelda was about breaking conventions. Maybe 60 fps was originally going to be one of them.