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- Thread starter EviLore
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I'm really struggling to understand these public account suicides.
What are they trying to accomplish? Some internet karma?
Why just not come back at all. Wouldn't that make a bigger point, than coming back, adding to the traffic and post count.
ThatFrenchGuy
Banned
I think the real victim here is Tyler: with just one Facebook post, his ex may have ruined his business and life.
I'm glad you're sticking around entremet! I've seen a lot of posts talking about how the good posters have been leaving in droves but a lot of the posters I enjoy reading seem to be staying put and I'm glad you're one of those posters.
I agree a lot with you also, I've only ever been banned for what I think was favoritism for Destiny but I know there have been a few times I felt like I needed to be on good behavior in PoliGAF threads. So as I've said, I really hope something good comes from all this in the end. Have to weather the storm first before we can see our way out of it though.
psychowave
Member
So why are you here? And no matter how hard you try, you can't change the legal definition of sexual assault. Yes, sexual assault is frighteningly common. It's cool that you don't give a fuck, but you don't speak for everyone.
MikeBison
Member
As in some of the people that have left? Eh, it'll settle back into a ryththm. People will come back. New people will take their place.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Getting into a relationship later doesnt change the fact she felt assaulted. Abuse and assault can have a weird impact on people, especially when factoring in alcohol.
By hand waving her statement youre insulting every person who has ever felt they were sexually assaulted but havent had the strength to speak up
Normalcy doesnt make it right. And yes its fucking wrong to randomly grab someones ass, anywhere.
Abstruse Moose
Member
Who needs evidence when you can just point the finger. I'm glad #JustBelieveHer-gaf is getting gutted.
There is a reason we have laws, and courts, and lawyers, and police officers. If you feel like something illegal has happened to you, use the options given to you. File a police report, talk to a lawyer, press charges. Don't just go on the internet pointing fingers with no evidence.
So by your logic, Weinstein innocent?
PhantomThief
Banned
Uhh no he isnt. He fostered this kind of forum, where anyone with a slight against women is puked out at the first sighting.
Not that I dont agree with that, we should all be for empowering women, treating them with respect and not jump naked in the shower with them after they had been puking in the toilet.
Then he releases this BS statement in where he victim blames and says the girl is mentally unstable.
No matter what exactly happened ( because we dont know ) his response is garbage imo.
UnblessedSoul
Member
From what I've seen overblown is an understatemnet, seen people say oh I got banned for being a toxic troll therefore I hope the allegations are true and neogaf burns to the ground. Really disgusting how people cant take a step back and just process all current information, the mob mentality will always win sadly.
GAF ain't dead. OP just misread a situation. If I go on a road trip with a female and we're drunk in a hotel room out something I'd be trying to fuck too. She refused and he got upset. Didn't rape her. Just wasted money on a trip and didn't get any pussy. I woulda been upset too. Like always GAF overreact to the situation like everything else.
Hope you guys happy at New era.
Hope you guys happy at New era.
Poor mods got too much heat.
Sorry, that grates too much.
If they wanted less in the way of heat maybe they should have got out of the kitchen.
CaviarMeths
Member
The bigger this thread gets, the less and less I recognize any of the names or avatars. The number of people who have left was relatively small, but they were the most prominent posters and thread creators. This community is rapidly changing already and it's only been back online for a few hours.
Guess everyone will be happier for it. Those who wanted a board that was like GameFAQs, except slightly more modern, will have it. Those who came to GAF for the communities, industry talk, and not being gaslighted by the owner will find other places to congregate.
Guess everyone will be happier for it. Those who wanted a board that was like GameFAQs, except slightly more modern, will have it. Those who came to GAF for the communities, industry talk, and not being gaslighted by the owner will find other places to congregate.
No one wants to go out with a whisper I guess.
This is FUCKED.
Maedre
Banned
The thing is, we don't have enough infirmation to discuss this case. This is no handwaving. It's common sense.
Yet, it is the truth!
It's obvious that they seek attention. Why just silently pack your things if you can storm out, slamming the door in the process? So, in the end, immature behavior.
mambadragon
Banned
PhantomThief
Banned
If ppl want to be banned so what? What "attention" are they seeking?
Please enlighten me.
witchedwiz
Member
question...
some "not exactly" gaming offtopic were in the offtopic board..
like the board game topic...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825268&page=397
as the off topic is no longer reachable, what's the best way to go?
should we start a new thread in the gaming community?
let us know
some "not exactly" gaming offtopic were in the offtopic board..
like the board game topic...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825268&page=397
as the off topic is no longer reachable, what's the best way to go?
should we start a new thread in the gaming community?
let us know
If your interest only reside around big AAA release, maybe.
More_badass gone, he does great indie recommendations. Old Salesgaf is the best at their field, new people might not be as well equipped to take the mantle. There are so many communities, while niche but build a formidable presence overall, and that's what made gaf great.
It's not so easy to replace them. For years, gaf attracted some of the most hardcore specialist, or retro gamers.
How do you replace them?
HiredN00bs
Member
My wife was raped. We had evidence. We went to the police. It was incredibly humiliating for her and she didn't want to endure or live in that world any longer than the bit she experienced. You have no concept of what women face whatsoever.
This is your future, NeoGAF.
Ban me.
Abstruse Moose
Member
Hey, I think it's gross and I have never done it and would never do it. Had it happen to my gf in a bar once and it wasn't pleasant. But let's have some perspective, I wouldn't want to wreck a guy's life over it.
DasPenguin
Member
If the accuser is wrong, this is terrible for the accused.
A close friend of mine got accused of rape in the mid 90s, in a small town here in Europe. It took three weeks or so for the police to clear his name, yet some people still think (20+ years later) he was quilty. I didnt see any victim shaming from the OP. If he truly is innocent then he did what any normal person would do and defended himself.
ZeroGravity
Member
Go fuck yourself and this entire site.
The allegations span decades and nothing yet.
psychowave
Member
That was not the only time he's had a fucked up attitude towards women or victims of sexual assault.
PhantomThief
Banned
He misread the signals ( NOT HIS WORDS ) why does he say "Shes mentally unstable" ( HIS ACTUAL WORDS )
?????
How is that overreacting when his own words dont match up with what you want it to be?
If he did misread the signals thats cool, it happens. Come lut and say THAT. Not some victim blaming bullshit that this girl is mentally unstable.
Wtf dude.
Elfotografoalocado
Banned
The fact that he literally killed OT and that all the mods left is enough to show that he doesn't stand behind what he says.
We had an amazing forum here, one where women and minorities were respected, and where attacks o human dignity were not tolerated.
And now he has turned it into a place where Gamergaters run around freely.
The worst is, Tyler's own words and actions (Insulting his victim, the banning spree) put him in a worse light than his own victim's words.
BOYS BEING BOYS AMIRITE
you fucking learned nothing. Regardless of what actually happened. Gross.
Good to have you back GAF. Also have no problem to lose the part of the community who were ready to torch the place on a whim without even being interested in the full picture before losing their shit. I do understand the mods concerns for safety though, very sorry to have lost them in this craziness.
Nah, I was refering to the one you quoted. People are so ready to tell anybody else what to do and have a clear picture of what needs to be done. You just have to wonder why the world is so fucked up when people know what to do so well.I had a tipo but you quoted my post before i edited it. This was the last phrase of my post after editing it. Just to make sure
"I wouldn't be againt him temporarily distancing himself from the site if either part (him or her) took legal action, thought."
I don't care what the owner does with his position, he is not representing me and he is not working for me. It's up to him to decide what he wants for his project/job/whatever NeoGAF is to him. It's up to me to decide whether I want to continue coming here or not.
In all honesty, if I didn't find it so scary, I would chuckle everytime I see these so-called left wingers act. Good thing I'm not from the US if that's what they think the left is meant to act.
Subpar Scrub
Banned
Officerrob
Banned
For all those thinking, "I never ventured into OT, so who cares?" go take a look at gaming community. Communities like Giant Bomb, Easy Allies, Destiny 2, Hearthstone, etc, some of the most diehard gamers on this site are leaving in mass
-Mutsukki-
Member
Can't say about those other things, but serious industry talk wasn't a thing in Gaf for about 5 years, it always started and continued being a hot take compilation, most of the time fueled by some mods
This is what's left here. Sheesh.
psychowave
Member
This forum has definitely turned into the same kind of woman-hating cesspit every other gaming websites has been for a long time. How sad.
Fuck you, EviLore.
Fuck you, EviLore.
Abstruse Moose
Member
Yes, it's a horrible thing for women to go through. The justice system is far from perfect, and it will never satisfy everyone, but it's still the best we can do. The alternative is to give people the power to point and anyone they want and ruin their lives. That is a very dangerous road to go down.
I appreciate that people react to things differently, and the accuser may well have been traumatised. I just find it really convenient that she left out the part of entering into a relationship with him AFTER the event. It's obvious had she added that part to her facebook post it would have raised a lot of questions and lost a lot of impact.
I guarantee a lot of responses would have been asking her "Why did you get into a relationship with him then?"
I also want to clarify that I'm not saying it's ok to jump into a shower naked with someone that doesn't want it. However what I'm saying is given the situation it might not have been as random as some people think. None of us know what happened in the build up, there might have been flirting etc and he got mixed signals.
Regardless though, the fact she specifically said that he walked out immediately after she said no doesn't sound like the actions of a crazy sexual harasser. HAd she stated that despite asking him to leave, he still stayed, and tried touching her, then that would be different
With regards to your last comment about something being common makes it ok. That's not what I was saying. Rape and murder is common in certain towns, that doesn't mean it's ok. My personal opinion on grabbing someone's ass in a club is that it's not as major as some people think it is.
I think the most important thing is the context of the situation. There's a difference with walking up to a co-worker and grabbing their ass completely out of the blue or some random person in the street, and in a club where there's been flirting, conversation etc.
But on the internet there's no grey area, it's black and white.
Paasei
Member
Nailed it. The first part is exactly the reason why I never posted in the political threads on the OT, and later one didn't even bother reading them anymore. There were some cool topics there though, such as sports and that mafia game I have been willing to join etc. Hope to see those back some day.
CJY
Banned
Dont really understand people coming on here just to express their distaste and to say goodbye to the site. Its pretty clear youll be back posting, or at the very least lurking.
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