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More hints that AMD is building Nintendo NXs processor (VentureBeat)
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Elfforkusu
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Enter the Dragon Punch
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chaosblade
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I'm not sure backward compatibility would be guaranteed, given the Wii U's small install base it might be a good time to start fresh.
I suppose you could also look at it the other way, backward compatibility would give the Wii U games a second opportunity to bring in revenue.
Either way, I don't think an AMD APU would be all that surprising.
I suppose you could also look at it the other way, backward compatibility would give the Wii U games a second opportunity to bring in revenue.
Either way, I don't think an AMD APU would be all that surprising.
Dean Takahashi is reliable, but it doesn't sound like he has any actual sources for any of this. Just speculation
Wait, this is the same Dean Takahashi that used to write for seattlepi etc, and wrote the books on Xbox right? WTF
Wait, this is the same Dean Takahashi that used to write for seattlepi etc, and wrote the books on Xbox right? WTF
Iced Arcade
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No thanks. Hope they don't ditch BC
Let it die, Nintendo. Ditch BC if you have to.
Edited to clarify!
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, I thought that read weird. Do we have any confirmation that that's true, or is this conjecture atop conjecture?
ThoseDeafMutes
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Yeaaaahhhhh
chaosblade
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Yeah, I'm not following the logic there at all.
Mysterious
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Pls leave BC and focus on what's absolutely new. Do emulation BC if necessary
Not if it gimps the rest of the console in any way
CrAzY FiNgErS
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Since Gamecube it's been IBM CPU and AMD GPU and yes the CPU has always been based on Power PC.
SSPssp
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Yes definitely, AMD needs to stay alive otherwise its going to suck for everyone.
Let it die, Nintendo. Ditch BC if you have to.
Edited to clarify!
I understand if people don't care that much about BC, especially if it holds the system back, but I love being able to play all my old games, so I hope they keep it in.
CPU? IBM (Wii U, Wii, GameCube) and NEC (N64).
CrAzY FiNgErS
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I thought I read a quote from Iwata talking about the NX "absorbing the Wii U architecture". Not those exact words but something close.
Finale Fireworker
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sörine;172120810 said:
Because everybody knows that te NX platform will ultimately be two consoles with a shared architecture.
While the handheld will almost certainly come first, both machines are also certainly in development.
IsntChrisL
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I wonder if Nintendo will skip BC because of the small Wii U userbase. The only major plus for Nintendo including it (that I can think of) would be if they kept big Wii U games in production well after the NX launches.
I wouldn't be fussed about the lack of BC for the NX Console if it means highly rated WiiU titles received the NX Edition/Remaster treatment.
Yeah...
Yeah...
Let that dream go
I mean the article doesn't really reveal anything concrete but it seems a no brainer that AMD has a big contact with Nintendo for next year.
AMDs prior comments also make it clear this is a lot different then the usual licensing deal as there is a significant amount of funding for a new design
AMDs prior comments also make it clear this is a lot different then the usual licensing deal as there is a significant amount of funding for a new design
I think Wii emulation will be impossible with some weak-ass APU. You need a strong CPU to get Dolphin running properly on PC. Nevermind a Wii U. They should just forget about Wii/Wii U BC to be honest.
And if it's a portable hybrid, fucking forget about a second screen too. Nothing but trash.
And if it's a portable hybrid, fucking forget about a second screen too. Nothing but trash.
well, this time i wouldn't mind BC being axed. time to close the gap a bit since even cheap modern parts are decently powerful nowadays.
they could even add Wii U BC later like how MS added 360 BC to XB1.
this would also crush people's dreams of GC VC since GC requires very close power to Wii to be emulated properly.
they could even add Wii U BC later like how MS added 360 BC to XB1.
this would also crush people's dreams of GC VC since GC requires very close power to Wii to be emulated properly.
I haven't been following this...is NX supposed to be less powerful than them?
Dean most certainly has (or had?) goods. Especially when it comes to Microsoft. There was a lot Dean knew about the 360 before it was out, for example. Don't know where he's going with that one though
Less, more, a literal PC with literally off the shelf bog standard parts... It wouldn't make much of a difference in any case.
Larogue
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it's not that. its that 3rd parties wouldn't support Nintendo even if they had comparable specs.
Chances are it will be in there going by what Iwata said so I wouldn't worry if I was you. If the NX is BC hopefully they found a really good way of shrinking down the chips necessary for BC with AMD's help or something.
Let it die, Nintendo. Ditch BC if you have to.
Edited to clarify!
Yeah...lets ditch BC for games released on a 3 years old console.
Fourth Storm
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The only non-software way that AMD/Nintendo achieve Wii U bc is if they use globalfoundries, who now own the IBM CPU factories. I don't know how likely that is, but at 22nm, the Wii U CPU would be tiny. Maybe 10mm^2?
it worked fine for Sony with the PS4.
So? Fuggetaboutit. You can't design and hamstring a new system around being able to play 10-15 year-old games.
Linkstrikesback
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I mean, Wii U BC is going to be tough to implement in an accessible way on the global scale nintendo likes for BC anyway.
A lot of games require the gamepad and there's not much they can do about that, nor the fact that if the NX is even a moderate success, a large number of people won't have gamepads.
I just hope the next handheld iteration manages to include 3DS BC.
Not when it's several years late to the party again they won't. If it had launched around ps4/xbonetime with comparable specs, then they might have.
A lot of games require the gamepad and there's not much they can do about that, nor the fact that if the NX is even a moderate success, a large number of people won't have gamepads.
I just hope the next handheld iteration manages to include 3DS BC.
Not when it's several years late to the party again they won't. If it had launched around ps4/xbonetime with comparable specs, then they might have.
Zombie James
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I'm not sure what the logistics would be if they wanted to combine x86 cores and an IBM PPC core on the same chip, or if that would even be technically possible. The other option would be emulation.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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The PS3 wasn't three years old.
Granted, the Wii U won't be either, but still. The abbreviated console life-span makes BC more necessary if they don't want Wii U owners to feel burned.
Sure they would. At least, assuming there weren't other factors preventing them, which would be unlikely, at least at first. Extremely low sales like the Wii U would do it, but most publishers wouldn't preemptively swear off a platform due to such fears. And if it's AMD64-based, that already makes porting a lot easier, especially combined with comparable specs. The only other thing that might dissuade publisher out of the gate is the lack of an analogous input device, which is unlikely and wouldn't necessarily drive them away either.
OrbitalBeard
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sörine;172120810 said:
Because NX is a family of consoles.
Come on. You know this.
That being said, the fact that NX is a number of hardware configurations makes me think BC may not happen.
Ohhhh. Yeah, probably so.
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