GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Fuck that Noise Daniel, I'll make you co-op with me and get us both Double Platinums*
*Hopefully!
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New Dragon's Crown trailer
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Fuck that Noise Daniel, I'll make you co-op with me and get us both Double Platinums*
*Hopefully!
SolidSnakex
Member
It probably just depends on how much you enjoy beat 'em up gameplay. It has RPG elements, and you do go to a town for items and such. But at its heart it's going to be about fighting constantly.
Sakimoto. He's probably not the only composer though, since previous Vanillaware games have all been scored by his cronies at Basiscape as well. He usually does the main themes and a bunch of tracks, leaving the rest to his other composers.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Well, I did enjoy Castle Crashers on single player so I'd be ok with single player.
I hope the platinum is easy. I haven't been trophy hunting for a few months now.
I hope the platinum is easy. I haven't been trophy hunting for a few months now.
Where has it been confirmed that Basiscape is handling the soundtrack?
(It's pretty apparent that they are from the sampled music, but I'm just curious as to whether it has been confirmed or not.)
I can't wait to play another game with them composing the music. Crimson Shroud's soundtrack was great.
Any news on NA release date?
It says so on the official site. There are only two credits - Kamitani as director, and Sakimoto as composer.
Right here: http://cdn.dragons-crown.com/images/introduction/note.png
djplaeskool
Member
Fantastic news, thanks!
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I may actually buy a Vita for this.
This is clearly a gorgeous game, but the non-elf female playable characters are straight-up shameful and embarrassing. It's almost like they're trying to fund a new Anna Sarkeesian video.
God damn it Vanillaware. Who designed these characters? Why? Their absurd proportions look calculated to titillate rather than communicate anything in-fiction about the world. This really frustrates me. Don't make me embarrassed to play your games.
God damn it Vanillaware. Who designed these characters? Why? Their absurd proportions look calculated to titillate rather than communicate anything in-fiction about the world. This really frustrates me. Don't make me embarrassed to play your games.
Karsticles
Member
That witch design is the best thing to happen in character design since Tifa Lockhart.
Edit: Damn, the idle animations are awesome. So much detail on the Fighter's armor especially.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Still want to buy the PS3 version, but I have to say that I'm less hyped than I was when the game was first revealed, just from the look of the action. Need to see normal gameplay footage that isn't just cut into a trailer to regain the hype.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Vanillaware has always had characters with exaggerated proportions.
Not sure why you're noticing this just now.
Protagonists that are as sexually exaggerated as Dragon's Crown? Please show me.
Karsticles
Member
So it only offends you when it's a protagonist?
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Shit those Amazon Thighs and Sorceress Boobies sold me Double Time
Fuck I'll buy the art book too, to keep Vanillaware in business
Crazy thing is it will be my first experience playing their games
They did something right to trigger in me to go:
"TAKE ALL MY MONEY!, ALL OF IT!"
First, a character that is the focus of player attention throughout the whole game is a bigger deal than an NPC who has little screen time.
Second, I am not "only" offended at protagonists. But I am more concerned. (I would use "embarrassed" more than "offended", however.)
Edit: Oh, only protagonists count.
What's wrong with titillation?
Yes, those male characters certainly are completely fine and normal and not exaggerated in any way.
Krauser Kat
Member
I would take much less detailed guys for animation that isnt done on super jittery 3s and 5s.
Generally, males given large muscles are considered exaggerated but not sexually exaggerated.
FlyingTeacup
Member
i might just get a vita for this game...
Let me turn that around: What's right with titillation? When do you think it serves the interest of the game or media in question and when do you feel it is extraneous or a distraction? If the answer to the second question is "never," I doubt we can have a productive conversation.
Ingueferroque
Banned
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I swear to god if this is the mindset of videogame journalism when this hits our shores and this game gets called for it or they try to get it edited
I will Rage so, so hard
Men are exaggerated by their masculine features and women are exaggerated by their feminine features. What you consider sexual is up to you.
SolidSnakex
Member
I believe so. At least based on old info. But it's probably best to wait for Atlus or Vanillaware repeats that info. Some of the old info that came out was apparently bogus.
Just wondering, but what is this from?
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GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Don't worry Jonathan, I'll be your buddy!
Huge guns and ripped abs are quite sexual for some.
I was surprised when I saw how "Big brush" Ogura's coloring looked up close; his addition of black linework for the outlines certain details really meshes very well, and makes the images look very sharp. There's nothing to draw that kind of visual-trickery contras in Kamitani's, but that might even work better for a crazy beat'em-up, as it helps things look kind of raw and vicious; and if it's all TOO sharp, we might hear many of the complains that people levy aganist Skullgirls, with too much of the action blending together.
I'd truly love to see people work modern 3D in more artistic ways; it's the one thing I really love about Capcom's 3D fighters (and even other 3D work like MonHun), they really try to capture 2D dynamics within their modeling and animation, to varying degrees.
Oh, and just off hand, even though vector animation isn't my fav, I have to give it to Vanilaware for the details they DO get in there; Watching just this trailer, and noticing little details such as how the fire before the wizard actually gleams in his eyes, is pretty nice.
The Amazon has nice huge hips, sure, but she's also a very obviously muscular woman, which makes one think more about a body-builder, rather than a super model. In context of the full game, I find the Sorceress much more ridiculous, because everything about her seem to be about the breast; it's a focal point of bascally all her animations.
And it communicates loads about the "in-fiction" about the world; none of the non-amazing charactrs seen in that trailer are as exaggerated as ANY of the main characters, males included. The status look like "normal" people; the Skeletons look normal, the non-combatants all look pretty normal; it's only Player Characters and Impressive enemies that look exaggerated.
This is a defining idea of Beat'em Ups; your characters generally are always more dynamic and crazy than noraml background characters, or even the "cannon fodder" enemies. Wheither it is by art style, animation, proportions, or coloration, this is a standard feature of the genre. The bosses are then a step beyond THAT, to make them imposing.
And at least, generally speaking, these are exaggerated adult characters. At least we're not looking at a group of obviously under-aged girls fighting in sailor outfits, where every animation ends with some sexually-themed camera angle, and clothing is purposely destroyed in suggestive ways on the female cast. And there's also nothing incredibly sexual going on in the gameplay, or even cinematics, from what we've seen so far. It all seems to begin and end at the initial designs, and it actually seems much more evenly dispersed than it could be.
I should've put quotes on that, lol.
...Really?
I could name you tens of Japanese franchises full of generic, amateurish pap cynically churned out to sell dakimakura. And I'd probably agree with you if Kamitani had made every female character a Sorceress clone. But that didn't happen, and that should be a clue to you that Kamitani wasn't just designing characters as masturbation fodder.
How does, say, the Amazon NOT tell you anything about the world of this game? She is a perfect exaggeration of a female bodybuilder. All muscle, almost 0% fat. Compare this to other games coming out of Japan. How many of them even acknowledge muscle tone in women, even women who are supposed to be physically strongmuch less put in a bodybuilder and NOT have it be a joke about how "LOL ugly" she is?
Is it intended to be "sexy" as well as exaggerated? Arguably. But titillation is not inherently evil, and this approach is so far away from artless copypaste garbage like Senran Kagura and Caladrius that I'm actually kind of flabbergasted you would conflate them.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Sounds like a show I can relate to! And other things.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
RE5 Chris says hell-fuck me-o!
Also do we know the difference between the Wizard and Sorceress besides Tits McGee?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I think the Wizard has stuff like AOE abilities while the Sorceress has things like polymorph and making potions or something like that.
They did mention something about their capabilities in a past article but I can't remember which one it is at the moment.
The Wizard is the best at straight-up damage dealing, while the Sorceress is slightly more on the party support side.
SolidSnakex
Member
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
So Sorceress is Red Mage RDM?
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Still Amazon first, Tits McGee for second play
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Still Amazon first, Tits McGee for second play