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crinale · Jun 12, 2013

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130612_603363.html

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YosP: For network games requiring subscription or F2P games, PS+ may not be mandatory (up to the publishers).
For example, games such as Planetside 2 or DC Universe Online don't require PS+ subscription.

DirtRiver · Jun 12, 2013

I was thinking how they would go about that. Nice of them to allow some games - free-to-play at least - to play online without paying, especially big games like Planetside 2.

Hidden One · Jun 12, 2013

Thank you based Sony.

Grizzlyjin · Jun 12, 2013

Nice. Makes sense too, F2P games want as few barriers as possible to having access to the game. I can't imagine any of them would exclude those who don't have PlayStation Plus if the decision is up to them. If nearly everyone can play your game, then you have a higher chance of people sticking with it and spending money in game.

Des0lar · Jun 12, 2013

Even if I still dislike the paywall, this is a very very smart and much needed move.

F2P behind a paywall is absolutely bonkers. I hope MS follows the same route. (Who am I kidding?)

Ikuu · Jun 12, 2013

But all that money they'll be losing on the servers!

Minions · Jun 12, 2013

Sony.... can do no wrong. I hope MMO's are included in this as well (See FFXIV etc)

strikeselect · Jun 12, 2013

Good guy Sony

jimi_dini · Jun 12, 2013

They could put in codes into all new games that would allow say 2-3 weeks of "free multiplayer". Just like they currently put in codes for PSN+ trials.

That way people that buy many games wouldn't have to pay extra. Also this would be an additional incentive to buy new.

stressboy · Jun 12, 2013

Des0lar said:
Even if I still dislike the paywall, this is a very very smart and much needed move.

F2P behind a paywall is absolutely bonkers. I hope MS follows the same route. (Who am I kidding?)

LOL... MS makes you pay for Youtube access.

Blablurn · Jun 12, 2013

Like it should be. Thanks Sony.

Requiem · Jun 12, 2013

Just beautiful, I feel like pre ordering the PS4 again I'm so hyped for this machine....

Tabris · Jun 12, 2013

I haven't been a Silver member except for day 1 and once another time when I forgot to change my credit card details for auto renewal... does Silver allow you to purchase content online?

CatPee · Jun 12, 2013

This interview also seems to say that DriveClub PS+ Edition doesn't have real-time online competitive play.

Eusis · Jun 12, 2013

Des0lar said:
Even if I still dislike the paywall, this is a very very smart and much needed move.

F2P behind a paywall is absolutely bonkers. I hope MS follows the same route. (Who am I kidding?)

Yeah, this is the wisdom Microsoft was showing early in the 360 days before going "HAHAHA WHY NOT LOCK NETFLIX BEHIND IT!?" Although the real mistake there may've been KEEPING it behind Gold...

Although if it's a publisher choice that implies they DO get a cut of the revenue from Sony for Plus, and thus likely it is what's killing online passes. Hell, in a sense maybe THAT is their "anti-used" measure, that we sorta pay an insurance to keep it accessible. Well, better that than Microsoft's lunacy.

Replicant · Jun 12, 2013

stressboy said:
LOL... MS makes you pay for Youtube access.

Yikes. Are they really that greedy?

Krusenstern · Jun 12, 2013

crinale said:
YosP: For network games requiring subscription or F2P games...

For network games requiring subscription...? Is he speaking of another subscription?

gembel · Jun 12, 2013

Krusenstern said:
For network games requiring subscription...? Is he speaking of another subscription?

MMORPG like FF14

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Jun 12, 2013

Krusenstern said:
For network games requiring subscription...? Is he speaking of another subscription?

I think he's talking about MMOs that are subscription based, or services like Netflix.

Noi · Jun 12, 2013

It was mentioned in another interview, but stiff like Netflix isn't behind a paywall either. It's strictly online play and stuff developers choose to place behind it.

bobbytkc · Jun 12, 2013

This is pretty good news. Sony's practices at their worst is still more consumer friendly than Microsoft at their best.

rdrr gnr · Jun 12, 2013

Tabris said:
I haven't been a Silver member except for day 1 and once another time when I forgot to change my credit card details for auto renewal... does Silver allow you to purchase content online?

Yes, it does. But F2P online MP is still behind Gold only.

Alphahawk · Jun 12, 2013

Replicant said:
Yikes. Are they really that greedy?

Any thing on MS that MS couldn't possible profit from requires Live Gold.

Router · Jun 12, 2013

Because its stupid to put F2P behind a paywall. Yes, limit peoples ability to give you money, sure why not!?

PaulLFC · Jun 12, 2013

Replicant said:
Yikes. Are they really that greedy?

Don't they even lock the Web browser behind Gold?

Jinfash · Jun 12, 2013

crinale said:
games such as Planetside 2 or DC Universe Online don't require PS+ subscription.

bigbaldwolf86 · Jun 12, 2013

PaulLFC said:
Don't they even lock the Web browser behind Gold?

Yes they do. They have EVERYTHING behind a paywall

Canis lupus · Jun 12, 2013

PaulLFC said:
Don't they even lock the Web browser behind Gold?

Even twitter.

levitan · Jun 12, 2013

I can't believe how well they have been doing lately. Making all the right decisions...talk about 2006 Sony.

wilflare · Jun 12, 2013

so for non-F2P titles, is it up to the publisher to decide whether to put their online MP behind PS+ or not?

or is PS+ Online MP like mandated system-wide?

EDIT: but this is a good move forward at least. if they announce dedicated servers, PS+ will really be of great value.
wonder how Gaikai will be part of this... and whether there will indeed be some form of higher tier subscription

doniewhalberg · Jun 12, 2013

Sony making all the right moves. Keeps media apps above the paywall, and now staying honest when promoting *free to play* (as honest as you get with those types of games ha). Good to see.

Dragun619 · Jun 12, 2013

Awesome, I was definitely wondering if we got an answer to that but yea looks like I'm good to go with Warframe and FFXIV.

jony_m · Jun 12, 2013

PaulLFC said:
Don't they even lock the Web browser behind Gold?

Probably some shitty version of IE too

Kyon · Jun 12, 2013

Not Sony slaying again.

Yaaaaaaaasssss PUNCH!

No media apps behind pay wall

No Subscription based games or F2P games behind pay wall. YAS

MS still putting a pay wall in front of everything tho. Mess

Omega · Jun 12, 2013

Paywall done right-ish

I laughed when World of Tanks was revealed to require an XBLG. I'm sure people are lining up to pay $60/year for WoT when they can just play it on PC for free

davepoobond · Jun 12, 2013

This is the right decision.

J-Rzez · Jun 12, 2013

Well thank god that's the least they could do is have the common sense to leave F2P games fully "Free to Play".

Toxa · Jun 12, 2013

Des0lar said:
Even if I still dislike the paywall, this is a very very smart and much needed move.

F2P behind a paywall is absolutely bonkers. I hope MS follows the same route. (Who am I kidding?)

ask namco with tekken revolution

Patrickv27 · Jun 12, 2013

This is big, for me at least. Good guys Sony making it really F2P.

*Slowclap*

jediyoshi · Jun 12, 2013

Nice to see it not mandated from Sony, makes sense to keep it up to the whim of the publisher

JABEE · Jun 12, 2013

So Publishers on a individual basis can make their F2P games require Plus, but it's an Opt-In. What incentive is there for a F2P studio to not be free?

Mikey Jr. · Jun 12, 2013

F2P being, you know, FREE, is great.

Kyon · Jun 12, 2013

JABEE said:
So Publishers on a individual basis can make their F2P games require Plus, but it's an Opt-In. What incentive is there for a F2P studio to not be free?

None. Letting anyone and everyone able to play this free and make micro transactions is better than hiding your game behind a paywall. Especially people who don't want to pay for PS+ and want to play these

davepoobond · Jun 12, 2013

JABEE said:
So Publishers on a individual basis can make their F2P games require Plus, but it's an Opt-In. What incentive is there for a F2P studio to not be free?

considering that Sony will make a % of those transactions, you're still going to be paying for that online access anyway.

dark_inferno · Jun 12, 2013

Sony is now the winner right?

God... sometimes i hate those guys for being just perfect.

waypoetic · Jun 12, 2013

Awesooooome.

Evolution_1ne · Jun 12, 2013

wait wait wait wait WHAT......WHAT!!!

that's amazing news, therefore I wont celebrate until it's confirmed

Sorc3r3r · Jun 12, 2013

Good.

Kyon · Jun 12, 2013

Evolution_1ne said:
wait wait wait wait WHAT......WHAT!!!

that's amazing news, therefore I wont celebrate until it's confirmed

.................... i cant with some of you lol

GameSeeker · Jun 12, 2013

This is fantastic news. This puts PS4 ahead of Xbone and parity with PC's for F2P gaming.

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