eighty(one)
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2464...space-no-one-can-hear-you-get-frustrated.html
PS4 vs PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2n6ye1Gvqc
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PCWorld previews Alien: Isolation, frustration permeates; PS4 vs PC video from CVG
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2464...space-no-one-can-hear-you-get-frustrated.html
PS4 vs PC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2n6ye1Gvqc
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KingHippo1967
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The video's CVG but the article isn't.
eighty(one)
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brandonh83
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Wow when that door opened at the start it made me feel embarrassed for the PS4 version. Still looks good enough but geez. I mean surely the PS4 can do that?
There seems to be more video artifacting/blurriness on the PS4 side of the video for some reason. Unless the PC version is running at higher than 1080, the sharpness should be pretty much identical; but it's not. There's also a big contrast difference, and I don't know if it's the system doing that or the television it's on.
The cutscenes on the other hand look identical.
As far as gameplay impressions, I hope it's not indicative of the final retail product. I've been really looking forward to this game, but I don't want it to feel unfair in an immersion breaking way like described in the article.
The cutscenes on the other hand look identical.
As far as gameplay impressions, I hope it's not indicative of the final retail product. I've been really looking forward to this game, but I don't want it to feel unfair in an immersion breaking way like described in the article.
SimulatedHoward
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This was starting to become a concern for me as well.
OverturePT
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Better AA makes better IQ at the same resolution.
OverturePT
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Cut-scenes look identical (pre-rendered?). Which makes me believe it has been captured correctly, only gameplay segments look different.
Dunno if better AA is responsible for this kind of picture quality difference though:
Lady Siara
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Regarding the gameplay, I noticed something similar in The Last of Us. If you hid behind cover and hadn't been spotted, enemies would hover around your location and slowly track directly to you. This would be all right if the AI was checking behind other cover or in other locations, but they gravitate immediately in your direction. It was really off-putting for a game that touted choice in gameplay.
I'm hoping this game doesn't suffer the same problem seeing as how there's only one enemy.
I'm hoping this game doesn't suffer the same problem seeing as how there's only one enemy.
OverturePT
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Not on that no, but I was referring more to the "Unless the PC version is running at higher than 1080, the sharpness should be pretty much identical" part of your post.
It's definitely weird. There's a contrast issue either in the footage or in the game itself.
exmachina64
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Dunno if better AA is responsible for this kind of picture quality difference though:
Besides the gamma being off, it could be tesselation, shadow quality, texture resolution, or AA creating a difference.
In the comics and established in the Rebellion AVP games it was hypothesized that the Alien sees you by your pheromones.
I'll wait and see on how hard it is. There is an easy mode. I kind of want it to be hard because a game like this is not going to have a lot of replay value.
Messofanego
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Gametrailers were pretty damn positive about the Gamescom build.
GT: Alien Isolation hands-on
Apparently, the Gamescom demo defaulted to the hardest difficulty (1:45), they turned it back down to medium but wished they stuck with it.
Fans of RE would like the save station system (9:18)
I didn't find it frustrating when I played it. But yeah, it's hardcore, so won't be to everyone's tastes who want an action horror game.
GT: Alien Isolation hands-on
Apparently, the Gamescom demo defaulted to the hardest difficulty (1:45), they turned it back down to medium but wished they stuck with it.
Fans of RE would like the save station system (9:18)
I didn't find it frustrating when I played it. But yeah, it's hardcore, so won't be to everyone's tastes who want an action horror game.
Cave Johnson
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pcworld said:
Typical. Using AI as a mechanic would require a lot of depth in both the player and NPC's agency. This quote only highlights the Alien as a pressure point mechanic; not rewarding creative approaches but dismissing it entirely for the sake of getting the players "tense" for the sake of. Nemesis from Biohazard 3 does an excellent job conveying this despite the fact that it is totally scripted and has limited pursuing sequence. Because it guarantees the player would always be aware for every area he/she enters because of the unpredictable pattern everytime he enters. Dahaka from PoP2 works in a similar way.
A game based around this mechanic can't even at least let the Alien work it's inherent mechanics without rubberbanding the player is a clear lack of faith in both their product and the player.
Ok, this is just bullshit. If this game is basically one giant stealth game then why the fuck would they pull off this kind of shit? So what if you are 2 or 3 steps away from the Alien, the tension would still be there, and if the AI is really persistent than this cheap monster closet set-pieces can be very irritating. Final quote below sums up exactly what I feel about this preview.
exmachina64
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So basically, they can spot you easily.
Having watched Alien again recently, this is basically how the alien acted/appeared out of nowhere in the final act.
Yeah in that case I get what you mean
I figure how video compression doesn't like low gamma that washes out the black levels and garbles the visual information plays into it as well with blocky compression artifacts.
They both don't look very ideal. The blacks aren't necessarily at "crushed" levels on PC, but a lot of visual information is lost -- more than I would like.
Meanwhile, the PS4's version looks washed out and you can see pretty much everything, and nothing is hidden by the dark. Somewhere in-between would be the sweet spot for me.
I guess some monitor/tv calibrations could help both of em in the end.
looked relly sharp in person. the video has to be a shitty capture.
CouchMaster
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Isn't the Xenomorph completely blind and only tracks its prey based on keen sense of smell and hearing? That explains why it hangs round Amanda even in large open areas. It knows you're there, doesn't matter if you're hidden from direct line of sight.
doesnt explain the fact that it basically teleports itself around the station
if you manage to outsmart it and leave it behind it should stay behind
see post 28
CouchMaster
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Maybe its only that section of GC demo which was specifically designed so they show the Alien as much as possible. The whole game can't be cat-n-mouse all the time, that would get real old, real fast.
SniperHunter
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No colours in the ps4 version wow
Because that's exactly how it worked in the movies, right? Either you want realism or you want an Alien game, you can't get really get both.
Pocky4Th3Win
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PS4 version missing AO?
Both versions seem off. The PC looks like it's got some black crushing, but it's hard to tell if it's from the video compression or not. That setting is typically always adjustable, though, so I'm not all that concerned.
Xenos do have something akin to eyes, so they can "see", just not like we do.
Not sure what to think of the cinematics. I was planning to play this in the Rift, and cinematics are a no-no for VR.
Xenos do have something akin to eyes, so they can "see", just not like we do.
Not sure what to think of the cinematics. I was planning to play this in the Rift, and cinematics are a no-no for VR.
Azure Dream
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Those are some really good critiques in the PCWorld article. The type of thing you'd want to know about before release. It'd be nice if the developers could address a few of those concerns before release, like the lack of a player shadow.
Crimsonclaw111
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Really hoping for a good game.
Wind's Howling
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The PS4 version is washed out and there is no denying that it is either the TV settings or the PS4 being set on a wrong HDMI level. If Killzone can produce an alien like environment, so can this game without downgrading the graphics substantially.