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Small bit of Zelda Wii U info from the iJustine/Miyamoto interview.
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I haven't played Twilight Princess yet. I've heard the overworld there is 5 times OoT. If that's correct, that world will be huge.
I'm still waiting for a non offscreen video of the footage they showed at the Game Awards, being offscreen I'm quite sure we were missing lots of details and the world wasn't as empty as we felt.
I'm still waiting for a non offscreen video of the footage they showed at the Game Awards, being offscreen I'm quite sure we were missing lots of details and the world wasn't as empty as we felt.
JinjoUnchained
Member
Holy crap, Zelda Wii U will contain areas that are the same size as the Twilight Princess world?
Hype..keeps..rising! Damn you 2014, why won't you end?
Hype..keeps..rising! Damn you 2014, why won't you end?
Wut? An area even bigger than the Hyrule of Twilight Princess? This sounds awesome to be honest.
Now let's see how many dungeons they can put in there, personally I would love something akin to ALBW but expanded: Some big ass dungeons Twilight Princess style and some little dungeons littered around the world to tests items and skills.
Now let's see how many dungeons they can put in there, personally I would love something akin to ALBW but expanded: Some big ass dungeons Twilight Princess style and some little dungeons littered around the world to tests items and skills.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I hope there's a dungeon where you can bring Epona.
brandonh83
Banned
LORD...
Pretty much, so if I get this right basically Zora's Domain in Zelda U is the size of.....Twilight Princess?
I hope there's warp points because there's no way that just traveling is enough!
shadyspace
Banned
There's never been a Zelda game without warping.
Small Mailman
Member
I can't wait
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I need this game
And that there should be so much to do you'll forget what you wanted to do in the first place.
EatinOlives
Member
It sounds pretty on-point with what they've always been saying. They're doing an open-world Zelda with a Nintendo twist on that basic concept.
It sounds fantastic. It's basically what I've wanted from a Zelda game since I first played through Zelda 1 back in 2006. The linear direction that it kept going toward was just turning me off the series completely.
EDIT: I hope the game is actually challenging or at least have a Hard Mode from the beginning. I'm not talking Dark Souls levels of difficulty, but not something so piss easy it renders most of the game's internal mechanics pointless. Twilight Princess also suffered greatly from that as well.
It sounds fantastic. It's basically what I've wanted from a Zelda game since I first played through Zelda 1 back in 2006. The linear direction that it kept going toward was just turning me off the series completely.
EDIT: I hope the game is actually challenging or at least have a Hard Mode from the beginning. I'm not talking Dark Souls levels of difficulty, but not something so piss easy it renders most of the game's internal mechanics pointless. Twilight Princess also suffered greatly from that as well.
OminoMichelin
Member
I'm not sure he's saying that, though
My memories of TP are a little fuzzy, but by eyeing it, the map looks like about 4 times TP's. I might be REALLY off though.
MvmntInGrn
Member
That sounds awesome, but I hope Nintendo can pull it off.
Twilight princess is pretty big, not as big as most open world games now but pretty big. It was also dead. Big dead expanses that were boring to look at and boring to travel through.
I'm skeptical Nintendo can create a world that is big but still charming and feels hand crafted. Majora's Mask is my favorite 3D Zelda and it unsurprisingly features less open space than other 3D Zelda games. I'll take crammed with character over big, beautiful, bland expanses.
Linkstrikesback
Member
If I'm honest, I hope not. A huge world map really just means either you get ubisoft style content over the map, or barren areas. While OoT had large maps at the time, you could get from one side of the overworld to the other easily within... 5 or so minutes (and had to for that eyedrop quest!). Granted, that's not counting the gerudo desert area in OoT.
I much prefer the OoT or even as recently as Link between worlds maps, where functionally you can get from one side to the other in mere minutes, but they still feel large.
Maybe they could make it reallly dense in content, but every other 3d zelda game leads me to believe they can't, and I rather hope it doesn't degrade to Xenoblade style shiny objects and isdequests as "content" to justify the large map.
This is how I feel as well. That being said, I have cautious optimism because this team has never really let me down before. I trust them to deliver some good, focused content.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Ugh. Skyrim style overworld and "exploration", here we go.
I'd guess larger than 5x. That said it's pointless because there's nothing to do in it. TP had the worst overworld of a Zelda game.
brandonh83
Banned
Nintendo makes good games though.
deltatheta
Member
I'm not sure he's saying that, though
My memories of TP are a little fuzzy, but by eyeing it, the map looks like about 4 times TP's. I might be REALLY off though.
Zelda is usually split into about 7 areas, the main field, Zora area, Death Mountain, Lake Hylia, a forest, a desert and a town.
So you might expect it to be 6-8 times larger than TP, but if it's four times larger I think that's still consistent and Miyamoto was just exaggerating a little.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Eh, it's not great, but I'd still say it's better than the ocean of WW or the sky of SS.
But seeing as the last 3d zelda game I could say "I like this overworld!" is MM, for the same reasons I posted above, I'm not yet hopefu.
thecouncil
Banned
I wouldn't get too excited. This is basically my approach to The Wind Waker HD and we all know what people thought about that overworld.
Coffee Dog
Banned
I would be more confident if ALBW didn't prioritize exploration at the clear and obvious expense of dungeon complexity and combat balancing.
They already screwed the pooch once and they were lauded for it. I fully expect those trends to continue in this title unless Nintendo hates money.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
But ALBW had some of the best dungeons in 2D Zelda history.
That's true, I replayed Twilight Princess last month and even if the world is huge and some parts are amazing the Hyrule Fields were pretty much dead compared to areas like Zoras Domain, Death Mountain and Hyrule Castle who were full of npcs a things to do.
Well, Nintendo did create Xenoblade Chronicles that has even bigger areas but they all feel hand crafted and incredible lively thanks to animal life and also the grass, also they rewarded exploration with exp, money and breathtaking vistas (The moment you reach one of the secret areas of Gaur Plains, my god!)
MisterGrey3000
Member
I don't know, it's cool and shows how far technology has progressed but the more I look at the info in the OP the more I think "Errr..errr.. err..Yeah, yeah, but your game designers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should."
Making an overworld that's bigger than TP's whole map doesn't seem necessary and it feels like they're focusing way too much on superfluous side stuff that doesn't really contribute to Zelda core game play elements.
His comment about giant dungeons gives me hope that they'll make some good ones this time.
brandonh83
Banned
Well they sure as hell can't make everyone happy. I'm fine with what they do if it turns out to be good. ALBW was a great game. Not my favorite, but well designed and a great deal of fun just like most Zelda games. The dungeons in ALBW weren't terribly huge or complicated, but they were still fun with great pacing and some neat puzzle design.
They got build the hype, man. More will be shown along the way.
Prevolition
Member
I don't understand when people say TP was empty. There were always different enemies to kill along the away, and the horseback battles were awesome. Maybe the secret areas were limited, that is different from being barren.
As always, it heavily depends on the content of those side things.
I don't want Zelda to be the next Assassin's Creed Factory game where there's a million collectathons and boring busywork and it mostly serves as filler as you try to spend the awkwardly long time just trying to get to the destinations you actually want to go.
This is very precarious ground they're on, I hope they succeed but after some of their past few Zelda experiments I'm going to be a bit more cautious the entire lead up to this game.
I don't want Zelda to be the next Assassin's Creed Factory game where there's a million collectathons and boring busywork and it mostly serves as filler as you try to spend the awkwardly long time just trying to get to the destinations you actually want to go.
This is very precarious ground they're on, I hope they succeed but after some of their past few Zelda experiments I'm going to be a bit more cautious the entire lead up to this game.
What reason was there to fight the enemies in Hyrule field? They existed purely to be an annoyance whenever you were forced into wolf form.
I'm not sure he's saying that, though
My memories of TP are a little fuzzy, but by eyeing it, the map looks like about 4 times TP's. I might be REALLY off though.
In Tp you basically had 4 OoT Hyrule plain size connected to make the hyrule plain that circled around Hyrule castle, only 1 of these areas would be loaded in memory (hence why there were only narrow passages leading one area to the other).
Coffee Dog
Banned
Every puzzle had only one possible solution due to the one item at a time item rental system. They pretty much solved themselves. At least in the other games you had options as to what a puzzle's solutions were, not so in ALBW.
Another big problem is that all the dungeons had to be designed to be played first, so they never had any puzzles that werent immediately graspable either.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't have a problem with large, empty fields as I see them all the time. I realize it's a videogame but I don't need to be doing something strictly specific at all times. IMO chilling in the open beauty of Hyrule is a treat in of itself.
Well, ALBW had a 9999 limit from the get-go.