Customers? Why are you using the plural form?Previous Dead Rising games were banned, so no huge surprise. Still, blows for German Xbox One customers.
Do Germans even buy their localized games? I imagine ppl just import from "neighbors".
Yes, a huge majority. MediaMarkt/Saturn and Amazon are very popular and a lot of people don't have a credit card to order in the UK or somewhere else.
I think the reason is actually that the majority doesn't even have a clue about censored games.
In theory, though, these games could be sold to adults, if the store has the means to prevent children from entering. I personally object to this procedure, but I can understand where they're coming from.
Now imagine we would have the always online DRM with activation. Germans couldn't even import it. Really dodged a bullet there.
Occassionally they also ban software (indexing =/ banning), as in the case of Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2.
I never heard of actual bannings, you mean they confiscated already released copies?
The second was banned, too?
They really need to get over this.
So what is the USK saying?
(USK = German ratings company for games)
They refused to give Dead Rising 3 a rating. This enabled the BPjM (not gonna use the stupid english translation) to ban the game according to §15 Abs 2. JuSchG
Or "under" the counter.
Your local gamestore can sell it or order it for you.
Sometimes Gamestop has bigger indexed or unrated titles near launch, if you ask for it.
Not if the game is outright banned. Indexed games can be sold under the counter, all copies of banned games are to be confiscated and destroyed.
There is, it is called Steam (or your other DD service of choice)
How it is handled depends on the publisher.
Some games can be activated without problems, some with some VPN/IP trickery, and I guess some can't.
Yup, usually checks out if someone gifts you the game.
On the 360, Microsoft did not want games without a rating.
Also, even if you could play the imported copy, there will be no DLC on the Xbox Live marketplace for Germany
The second was banned, too?
Dead Rising 1, by court order.
So what is the USK saying?
(USK = German ratings company for games)
I think the rules say that if one game has been indexed, all sequels are on the index automatically.
Does Germany do this for movies too? It would be pretty ridiculous if they did it for games and not movies.
Does Germany do this for movies too? It would be pretty ridiculous if they did it for games and not movies.
Why? Nobody knows exactly what makes the US how it is, but it's a ridiculously violent country. Is it really a shock that others aren't in a rush to do things exactly as we do and try to give us a run for our on money when it comes to violent crimes per capita?
Do Germans even buy their localized games? I imagine ppl just import from "neighbors".
I think the rules say that if one game has been indexed, all sequels are on the index automatically.
They didn't rate it. I mean that's the only way that the BPJM is actually allowed to index/ban games. If USK gives a rating (from not restricted all to 18+) the BPJM isn't allowed to take action.
You know whats funny Off the Record is not banned, despite Dead Rising 2 being banned. Shows how great the system works.
Why wouldn't Germans buy their games locally?
Besides the usual price factor, there is no big reason to import.
(emphasis mine)Yes. Actually 2716 movies are indexed or banned in Germany, compared to 596 games.
Source: Wikipedia link
Censored to hell and back isn't big enough reason?
You can thank these 3 guys for it, who get to decide for the rest of adult Germans what's best for them.
It is, but most games, as in the vast majority, are "uncensored".Censored to hell and back isn't big enough reason?
Nothing a good Uncut-Patch couldn't fix. I prefer getting the uncut versions directly over steam (or torrents), though.
Is it illegal to import these games? Honest question. I have no clue how to Germany.
Indexed: legal
Banned: Illegal
Indexed: legal
Banned: Illegal
This would be a change that I would love to have, even as an option. A city full of dumb Terminators is more conceptually interesting than just plain old zombies.I guess changing the zombies into robots is not an option that's on the table.
What about personal imports, if I go myself to another EU country, buy the game therer, and bring it back with me?
Off The Record is pretty much DR2 with Frank West instead of Chuck Greene I thoughtWhy wouldn't Germans buy their games locally?
Besides the usual price factor, there is no big reason to import.
I am pretty sure, no such rule exists, and there would be many counter examples to that in many old series.
Yeah, but did the USK actually see or preview the game, or comment on it.
The news in the OP does not mention it.
And I haven't heard about the USK and Dead Rising 3 yet, but maybe I just missed that news.
Haven't played either game, but what is funny about it?
The games have different content, don't they?
What about personal imports, if I go myself to another EU country, buy the game therer, and bring it back with me?
Computerspiele unterfallen nicht den Ausnahmeregelungen zu verfassungswidrigen Symbolen. Beispielsweise ist die Verwendung in Dokumentarfilmen (§86 III StGB) oder Spielfilmen [bloße Duldung, Liesching/Schuster, a. a. O, S. 564] möglich. Da insoweit keine Jugendschutzbelange betroffen sind, verstoßen auch Erwachsene gegen das Einfuhrverbot. Ein Erziehungsprivileg gibt es hier nicht. Händlern wie auch Verbrauchern drohen bis zu drei Jahre Haft oder Geldstrafe, unabhängig vom Bestehen einer Indizierung. Der bloße Besitz ist nicht verboten [vgl. Politische-bildung-brandenburg.de]. Kommt nachträglich heraus, dass ein Spiel doch (versteckte) Symbole enthielt, muss K das Spiel nicht zurückgeben. Sammler derartiger Medien, aufgepasst: Gerichte können je nach Zahl der vorhandenen Medien ein „Vorrätighalten“ zum Zwecke der Verbreitung feststellen. In diesem Fall würde wiederum der Straftatbestand greifen.
Does Germany do this for movies too? It would be pretty ridiculous if they did it for games and not movies.
This would be a change that I would love to have, even as an option. A city full of dumb Terminators is more conceptually interesting than just plain old zombies.
That really sucks for people in Germany. Looks like they'll have to do some importing. :l
They do, but there are double standards. While Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade got a regular theatrical/video/dvd release the point and click adventure game had the swastikas removed for the German release.
On the other hand, comedy skits like this one (a spin on a German rip off of The Office) set in Nazi Germany are fair game. It's total bullshit imo.
Existing. It was founded in 1926. But since anti-semitism wasn't really a problem back then...Where was this department in the the early 1920s.
lol...what