Jaded Alyx
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Skyrim wouldn't be playable on the plane as shown, you'd drop the right joy-con trying to use the second analog and face buttons. Nice for Mario though.
Why? Do you need to use both the stick and the buttons at the same time?
Skyrim wouldn't be playable on the plane as shown, you'd drop the right joy-con trying to use the second analog and face buttons. Nice for Mario though.
You probably don't. This is basically the successor to wiimote-only multiplayer in the previous two consoles. If everything controlled great with one of them, having the standard control set be two of them would be pretty pointless.
I think it would be pretty weird if the "single con" mode introduced new types of input not available during regular two-con or pro controller play.
If they were symmetric when attached to the main Switch unit, once detached the person using Joy-con R would have the analog stick on the right and buttons on the left.
I also think the Wii U's symmetric upper sticks had a lot to do with trying to get the sticks as far from the touch screen as possible so they didn't interfere with accessing that. Though I guess if that's true, it's maybe another indication that they don't consider touch a big deal this time.
To be honest I went straight for joy-con sizes there and didn't even see that they'd concluded the screen was 6.56". Here's an alternate take, where I've scaled the joy-cons from my previous image to 94.5% width and height, which would fit with a 6.2" screen.
Probably to demonstrate that the Grip is optional.
Saw this cool reddit post
https://m.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/58legs/imagine_the_possibilities/
Makes ya wonder what they could do with this joycon idea:
Apologies if already posted.
These little controllers look uncomfortable to me. For one, because the buttons aren't centered, but also because half the controller is rounded while the other half has sharp corners.
My biggest problem is how one of those controllers has the analog stick dead center. Why couldn't they have both been symmetrically identical? Why not both be more like NES controllers. How important is it to have the analog stick below the buttons on the right side?
Ick.
My concern is that the joycon for player 2 has an analog stick smack dab in the center of the damn controller. What the hell is that shit? These controllers should be identical. I don't care how they connect to the tablet.
no, player 2's left thumb needs to stretch further into the controller in order to reach the stick.They seem to line up pretty perfectly to me.
You can buy a 3 x accel. + 3 x gyro MEMS chip for 1-2$. I'm pretty sure it's less than .50c for an hardware maker. Even adding magnetometer wouldn't increase the price much.
It did, and according to to the company that made it it supposedly was more advanced than what the Sony Move had because of the gamepad allowing a larger magnetometer.
The local multiplayer games with the joycons (what a name ffs) are gonna be slimmed down and simplified gameplay wise.
- TV MP with 2 grip or pro controllers: normal gameplay
- Tablet MP with Joycons(jesus fuck): auto drifting in Mario Kart for example.
Local tablet mp is gonna be a cute extra, and not all games are gonna support it.
Doesn't make sense to force devs to use all the gimmicks.
In short, our rumour stated that the Switch Joy-Cons would feature motion control and rumble support. I believe this is still accurate.
Our sources on this report were Sources A and B (Nintendo and Ubisoft). We have been given no reason at this point to suspect either source as inaccurate. Source B (Ubisoft) claims that the current version of Just Dance in development supports Wii Remotes, or Joy-Cons, for multiplayer play. Source A (Nintendo) confirmed Wii Remote support on dev kit, and confirmed the Joy-Cons as phasing out Wii Remotes over time. So, why not show that in the reveal trailer?
I asked Source A (Nintendo) why motion control support was not addressed in the reveal trailer. They said that the purpose of the reveal trailer was to show the consoles unique selling point in as focused a manner as possible. They say that motion support will be confirmed closer to launch, but that Nintendo does not want the brand messaging around the Switch confused at this early stage.
The grip willl have motion in it?
That would mean the grip would be included with the system so you can make a full controller.No, the Joy-Cons have motion in them. The grip holds them together so you have something like the Wii U Gamepad to be able to play Splatoon.
That would mean the grip would be included with the system so you can make a full controller.
Christ that D-pad is atrocious lol.
This was probably already brought up but I don't have the time to scour through right now.
I need to reference this rumour from LPVG:
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/
I was thinking about Splatoon and how the game relies on gyro controls. They showed in the trailer players using the pro controllers though.
It's very likely the pro controllers for Switch will be the same as the one for Wii U by having no motion controls.
So then how would I play Splatoon with gyro controls? Using the Joy-Con grip.
It somewhat didn't make sense at first why there was a Grip for the Joy-Cons and a separate Pro Controller. Why bother making a Grip in the first place when people are having preference for the Pro Controller for something traditional?
It most likely has to be that with the above rumours, the Joy-Con Grip acts like the Wii U Gamepad when the Joy-Cons are attached so you can have motion controls for games like Splatoon.
This is such a fucking messy design. Have fun juggling 2 additional parts with your "portatble" tablet.
For someone that doesn't like anything about the Switch you sure spend a lot of time posting about it.
I haven't seen the games yet.
I still plan on buying one.
This is such a fucking messy design. Have fun juggling 2 additional parts with your "portatble" tablet.
That's fair enough, but will it matter?
I might be well off here, but it seems at times that some people probably won't buy it regardless. Which is fine, I can see why people don't like Nintendo products or the type of games they produce.
Ok fair enough, I just didn't get that impression when you posted:
I took the above as a comment aimed at people who were buying the Switch, but appreciate sometimes written words can be mis-interpreted.
Looks like you're right.
This is true comedy. Whatever time they spent solving for this possibility to play with a single joy-con was not worth it.
Too right.
Who in their right mind is going to try and play with that tiny thing.
And who outside of Donald Trump has hands small enough for it to be comfortable?
The text at the mittle part literally says "Joy-Con Grip". So.
the middle bit is calle dthe joy con. Why would a simple battery pack be called the joycon?.
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Do the joycons have to be taken off when docked?
Ie can someone play on a pro controller at home, then pick up the screen and immediately play portable?
Withiout the farting around disconnecting and reconnecting joycons.
This is true comedy. Whatever time they spent solving for this possibility to play with a single joy-con was not worth it.
"Solving for?" They've had Wiimote controls since MK Wii. The Joy-con is an extension of that and seems to actually have real L/R buttons in addition to analog controls.
What is more interesting: will that headrest mount be an official accessory?
Too right.
Who in their right mind is going to try and play with that tiny thing.
And who outside of Donald Trump has hands small enough for it to be comfortable?
Who in their right mind is going to try and play with that tiny thing.
And who outside of Donald Trump has hands small enough for it to be comfortable?
the middle bit is calle dthe joy con. Why would a simple battery pack be called the joycon? I think the grip with the handle is separate like a wii wheel and the joycon itself is the actual controller and has some hidden features we do not yet know about.
Look at it here, it looks like it can come off from the controller grip.
1. It can either come off and be used as a battery pack to charge the NS handheld for another 3-5 hours extra play time (but I cant see any usb c or other ports around it so far, but it could be on the right hand side. SInce it is already a battery then it might as well have extra uses.
2. It has a touchpad. the joycon can be used on its own as a touchpad to be able to play games that need touch controls so it can transition into the tv better. Not sure if this is possible.
The joycon L and R themselves already have the ability to connect to the console and have batteries, the JOYCON is not just a charger, otherwise it would just be called a battery pack.
So the middle joy-con could be a touchpad?
doubt it. looks to me that its just a grip with possibly a battery in the middle to charge the L & R Joycons
In reality is more an accomplishment for Eurogamer and it's source, anyone that did a mock up as close as that report got super close to the final product.It's exactly what I predicted. Split controllers each with four face buttons and a stick, a battery hub for use when unattached from the screen, and with each mini controller being used for multiplayer. All the arguing in the EG leak thread was worth it for this moment of glory. GLORY.
The multiplayer they are touting just creates more complexity (and yes more options) for developers to headache over when they think about if they want to port their games to this new, unproven platform. I see only Nintendo supporting its creativity with this.
Can you connect 4 pro controllers to one system? Do you have to use the detached joy-cons for 2+ players?
What I'm wondering here is why does the Joy-Con Grip have two lines of LEDs? Wouldn't one be enough?
The guess about the LEDs in the JoyGrip do:Has anyone figured out what the 8 lights on the Joy Con grip are for?
I hate analog sticks that are not on the same level. It's why I never play anything on Xbox.
Disappointing to see, maybe next time.
The stick position is not symmetrical and is stacked lined above the action buttons because it was a necessary compromise for the 2 player local multiplayer with the 2 Joycon halves. It was the only way to reach control parity for each player in this situation.Did they use Xbox triggers too? Almost a complete replica of X1 pad.
Reaffirms asymmetrical sticks are the best.
This is something i mentioned in a previous message, was looking at some indication of an IR sensor window in the sides of the Joycons or the Switch itself. There are 2 benefits of having this: Cheap to manufacture controllers and lower battery consumption if the Joycons communicate via IR when attached.Sorry if it was already discussed:
If I remeber correctly, there was a rumor/patent about the Joy-Cons pre-reveal stating that they possibly have no electrical parts at all inside of them and that button presses would be recognised by some IR and mirror device inside of the tablet or grip controller.
Since the trailer shows people playing with the Joy-Cons detached from any other hardware, this rumor must be false, right? It would also mean that each Joy-Con needs its own battery. I'm a litte concerned about that.
I don't get the grip. Why not just get a Pro Controller?
Because they can sell the pro controller separately for an extra ~50 bucks?
Couldn't they just do that without the grip?
Couldn't they just do that without the grip? I guess maybe it's a battery issue?
It's also probably because Nintendo knows that playing the Switch as a console with the 2 joycons held separately and apart in each hand is not a comfortable experience for a lot of consumers. People want the stability and tradition of one controller in their hand and in console mode, the joycon grip provides that.
But being able to hold your hands apart was one of the best things about WiiIt's also probably because Nintendo knows that playing the Switch as a console with the 2 joycons held separately and apart in each hand is not a comfortable experience for a lot of consumers. People want the stability and tradition of one controller in their hand and in console mode, the joycon grip provides that.