Neuromancer
Member
So the frame rate only really drops in the rain with a ton of cars? I don't anticipate having a problem with this game. I'm looking forward to next week.
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Digital Foundry: Project CARS Performance Analysis (PS4/XB1)
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Or because it's not announced yet... Obviously Polyphony is working on something (GT7 or prologue) but there's nothing to be excited for until there's at least a release window.
What's with the PS4's double vision? I've seen several shots with this on the PS4, but not the Xbox One.
Temporal AA.
Although it looks shocking in static images, I personally struggle to see it when the game is in motion.
Summer Haze
Banned
What's with the PS4's double vision? I've seen several shots with this on the PS4, but not the Xbox One.
A side effect from the temporal AA solution, I think.
So, the whole outrage against DF was practically for nothing? Lol.
That whole thread of blood and wars, all the mighty warriors for what?
The game still looks quite good on consoles and the framerate is not that horrible. I mean, it wouldn't be an issue normally for other games, but this is a racing sim that has as main selling points speed and graphics and this analysis is not pretty with either.
That whole thread of blood and wars, all the mighty warriors for what?
The game still looks quite good on consoles and the framerate is not that horrible. I mean, it wouldn't be an issue normally for other games, but this is a racing sim that has as main selling points speed and graphics and this analysis is not pretty with either.
Backfoggen
Banned
As expected the frame rate is still bad just like in the preview version.
This is part of the game for a console owner... It should be scrutinised. It's a mess. A sim racer on the new gen consoles should not be dropping from 60 fps to 30 fps. That is awful.
They should be reducing the rain effects and number of cars to ensure that frame-rate doesn't drop so much. Very poor optimisation on their part.
And a lot of gamers do care about fps dropping from 60-30. It is extremely noticeable imo.
Summer Haze
Banned
Man, I'm so disappointed with the framerate and screen-tearing. Ugh. Usually I'll just pass on the game and never really think about it again, like with AC:U, but I really wanted this to be solid on console. I was ready for sim racers again.
Sigh.
Sigh.
Nah, there's pics of it on the last page, no rain and pretty big drops.
Dictator93
Member
bare in mind that is worst case scenario stuff. seems the game holds 60 under most conditions.
i wonder, does the actual career mode place you into such tight packed grids on some of these troublesome tracks, in night, and heavy rain? is all that user configurable? or is all of this only accessible as a set up in custom races?
Summer Haze
Banned
Gross. Pie charts are too sugary.
flipswitch
Member
No purchase for me now. I wanted a rock solid 60fps, GT5/6 couldn't do it and unfortunately project cars can't either. Frame rate should be priority and reduce whatever to maintain 60fps.
I'm a little surprised to see temporal AA on a fast moving game.
With that many vehicles on screen at a time, and this level of weather effects, I think that's an impossible ask. Unprecedented as far as consoles go. You could always just stick to races with non absurd numbers of cars if you care that much about the frame rate, or even avoid rain races altogether.
End of the day, I prefer these things being in the game at the cost of the frame rate, than them being taken out altogether. Aside from the worst case scenario's, I think it holds up pretty well overall.
SMS said it gave the PS4 version a better overall IQ with a smaller impact on performance.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Cripes...
Summer Haze
Banned
This. They should have done whatever was necessary. Turn down the shadow quality, tone down rain effects, turn down number of cars on-track, reduce the poly-count on the cars...anything that needs to be done to get a stable framerate and to get rid of that awful screen-tearing, which for me is even worse than framerate drops.
flipswitch
Member
What about if I'm playing the career mode and it has weather events? I wouldn't have mind if they used dynamic resolution like in Wipeout HD.
That would just result in another flavour of outrage. 30fps lock? Yet another outrage. This is the age of entitled outrage and games shall be torn apart, slaughtered, killed, then murdered and killed again at launch
)SMS have been foreshadowing the console performance of their game for a long time now, you just had to figure it out.
There is obvious ghosting on the silhouette, and screen tearing right there in the logo! It was right in front of us the whole time.
Da Project Code.
Ourf, that can't be advertising it at 60 fps if it can only hit it certain scenarios? Looks like the framerate is quite high most of the time but when it dips, it dips down low! Kind of disappointing as they have been advertising it a 60fps title but very understandable from the game position due to the visuals, technology and amount of cars on track.
Summer Haze
Banned
They don't have to be taken out completely, just toned down.
everthustodeadbeats
Member
If I really care about 60fps, I'll turn off weather.
It's no big deal.
It's no big deal.
Quite.
To be honest I think the novelty of racing in the rain will soon wear off (it did for me in Dr!v£clu3 after less than two days) so I'm disappointed, but not too bothered, by performance hits in torrential downpours.
i asked this, poorly, above but does the career mode force these settings and massive drops on the player, or does the game scale number of cars (and less likely, weather), based on the track? in other words, the game could be designed where you normally wouldnt run into these scenarios, and only get them if the user configures a race under worst case scenarios.
if the game doesnt do this, it ought to.
Summer Haze
Banned
Can you customize weather effects and/or number of on-track cars in career mode, or are they set in stone?
Birgitte2004
Member
I am literally at the point where I don't understand why the "60 fps or die" people even own a console or really even read a console thread.
And I get the idea most don't own a console, and only read console threads to talk about how superior PC is and/or how much consoles suck.
And I get the idea most don't own a console, and only read console threads to talk about how superior PC is and/or how much consoles suck.
Or they just have a much bigger team with a much bigger budget while only having to focus on one platform. Considering SMS size and budget, I would say Project Cars turned out very well.
not sure. i *think weather is customizable though
It already does:
Same goes pretty much for multiplayer, you won't get those 30fps drops in MP and most likely not in career. Most of the time in the career mode it's hitting near 60 fps.
The weather is set, but you can choose the number of opponents. In quick races you can select the weather progression too.
i'm afraid any weather in fm6 will be poorly implemented, at least visually. racing in the rain is good for variety, but once the newness wears off, its good conditions for me. i'd prefer that fm6 skipped weather entirely, or maybe made it a preset thing for a few simpler tracks. i'm sure i'm in the minority though.
Summer Haze
Banned
Hmm, interesting. I may still consider buying it if turning down the number of opponents improves the framerate/screen-tearing.
Blimey, your crystal ball is good, can you tell me this weeks winning lottery numbers?
The drops in weather still aren't that bad when it's 20 cars though, where it sticks to the upper 50's mostly. It only starts getting really hairy when it's rain coupled with a huge number of cars, in this instance 45 cars.
Again, these are stress tests, you are very unlikely to hit low framerates during either career or multiplayer.
i'm afraid, as in, its what i expect. not as in heres how it will be. i wasnt impressed with its inclusion in fh2 and that was at 30fps. we'll see though, hope i'm wrong.
What's with the PS4's double vision? I've seen several shots with this on the PS4, but not the Xbox One.
Ghosting due to an extra temporal AA pass. More noticeable in static images, but a dev says it produces better IQ in motion.
Summer Haze
Banned
Lol.
What about tearing? Honestly, I could deal with the dips...but I despise screen-tearing.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Honestly, watching the effects on/off video, it only really drops hard when it's raining or begins to rain.
No rain sees the frame-rate remain mostly in the 50s.
MrJustinius
Member
I quote Ian Bell (head of SMS) over at WMD in relation to console performance:
"It's definitely better than Driveclub.
The only heat we should get is from large congratulatory slaps on the arse."
lol
"It's definitely better than Driveclub.
The only heat we should get is from large congratulatory slaps on the arse."
lol