Intheflorsh
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I sent a little email begging the FCC not to ruin one of humanity's greatest achievements. I'm not optimistic.
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FCC open public comment period prior to voting to allow priority internet
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Here how to yell at the fcc,follow the steps.
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-yell-at-the-fcc-about-how-much-you-hate-its-net-1576943170
http://gizmodo.com/how-to-yell-at-the-fcc-about-how-much-you-hate-its-net-1576943170
DonasaurusRex
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no one is talking about charges we are talking about an ISP's place in the function of the WWW, the internet, or just basic networking. ISP are like an on ramp, they are NOT the internet, they are not the content and they sure as hell didn't pay for ALL the hardware nor do they manage the route used or the hardware used to route data packets/frames through the network of networks called the internet. They are a door, if you sign up with them you are in their class room that is in the building that is the internet. All they do is provide a gateway to the network of networks. All this other crap they want to add on to a connection is their stupid business. They cant go around charging on this basis, because they have no control over where stuff leaving their wans is going to route.
That's the point and it doesn't matter , all that matters is the protocols used to move the data gets it through the internet and to the right gateway then network then host then port etc etc. The isp only provides the routing from their Wan to whatever sub ip or however else they do it in your neighbourhood. But for their customers who they charge to ever be happy and experience the net they have to rely on many other wans , and private networks and server groups etc etc that are beyond their control and they don't pay for so its dumb. There's nothing spoiled about the US internet its pitiful compared not only to other countries but to what can be provided as standard.
Oh look someone who thinks that net neutrality isn't important.
Watch this video and why it's important. Also EU have adopted net neutrality..the netherlands where i live have been using net neutrality since 2011. Net neutrality meaning all data is equal..no discrimination,no throttling,blocking etc. It's all bad if there is none. It comes down to you. Your getting in slow lane,no more netflix or hulu only in a premium package for 50 dollars more! Instead of paying what your doing normally per month ISP's can block,throttle everything you do on the internet there trying to destroy what has captived the world from small startups to everyone in between.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2psly3euy78
Thanks, doing this asap
Old title was about the vote moving foward today.
Was changed to the now more important public comment period.
I say drop all of this horseshit that's not going to get you anywhere, because i think its funny that people even think the FCC rules aren't going to be immediately challenged and struck down in court.
Take all the millions of dollars you are going to spend going around in circles with all of these rules, the millions you are going to spend trying to defend them (and millions from somewhere else), and put that into a fund to match money that municipals would be willing to put up to start municipal fiber.
Take all the millions of dollars you are going to spend going around in circles with all of these rules, the millions you are going to spend trying to defend them (and millions from somewhere else), and put that into a fund to match money that municipals would be willing to put up to start municipal fiber.
Yoda
Member
The FCC's decision will be based on the politics of this vote, if you think they are going to read those comments you are sorely mistaken. It is important people know that this vote passed because the people who voted on it were appointed to the FCC on the premise they were pro net-neutrality. The vote had nothing to do with public commenting as that will happen anyway.
The proposal needs to go away. Period.
When the GOP proposes something that tries to reduce regulation of ISPs, I'll oppose that too.
You're not one of those people that thinks you have to side with a particular party on every single issue, are you?
rudieboy77
Member
Funny they have been wanting to do this since W's first term and it finally gets done with a Democrat in office. Remember that, just like all the free trade pacts, WTO, and dismantling of bank regulations happened when a Democrat was in office. And no I'm not a Republican, I'm small (d) democratic socialist.
Yeah, the problem is that this issue isn't as easy to put into a simple message that people easily understand. With SOPA, you could just say "Stop internet censorship!" and people got the idea and what was at stake. But what's the rallying cry here? "Protect net neutrality?" Most people have no idea what that is, and assume from the name that it's some vaguely bad thing they're supposed to be angry at.
Of course not. I don't want this to pass. I want them to reclassify the ISPs and fully reinstate net neutrality. I'm not trying to defend the people on the FCC who passed this, I'm trying to prevent undue support for people who, given their way, would pass an even worse version. And the GOP's goal is to not pass anything, which will lead to even less regulation than this shitty proposal.
I know. I don't support them past trying to get this proposal thrown out.
WinterSoldier
Neo Member
There's also hints that companies like Comcast plan to institute data caps again. If they do it may very well kill any chance of me going all digital this console generation.
vagabondarts
Member
Yes but at least people would have another provider to go to if they didn't like the cap. I'm just like: f_everythingpaperthrowing.gif
Cow Mengde
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Maybe a sticky of this information on Neogaf? I mean, it indirectly affects the entire community as a whole.
Yea, totally, why even bother to participate.
A big problem is that the whole "priority lanes" thing cannot be implemented in today's internet, where an ever increasing amount of websites and services are hosted on cloud computing platforms like Amazon and Azure and CDNs like Akamai. Only the really big guys like Facebook and Google actually host their own stuff and even then they sometimes rely on 3rd party CDNs sometimes (Microsoft uses Akamai's CDN for stuff like Windows updates and Xbox digital games).
With a CDN, for example, there's no easy way to know which URL belongs to who in order to decide if it's going to be prioritized or not. This was the case when an US ISP tried to throttle Netflix and actually throttled every website and service hosted on Amazon AWS (which hosted Netflix stuff back then).
With a CDN, for example, there's no easy way to know which URL belongs to who in order to decide if it's going to be prioritized or not. This was the case when an US ISP tried to throttle Netflix and actually throttled every website and service hosted on Amazon AWS (which hosted Netflix stuff back then).
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