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F'DUPTON 3: Back in the Tub with 5.0/5.5/6/7/several Inches of RAM-Flavoured Water
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Lifesontheline
Banned
Titanfall not being 1080p will be strictly design choice IMO.I wonder how you will feel when TitanFall doesn't run at 1080p.
Oh btw check this article out-
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=536
The GPU is much more powerful than Xbox 1 (clocked higher) and much less powerful than PS4 (clocked way lower). Once again, isolating the GPU variable doesn't do much but add confusion and makes Leadbetter's, Anand's, and Tom's Hardware unreliable to try and extrapolate performance from GPU VS GPU.
I've seen that article and it misrepresents both machines, they're closed systems with different architectures not isolated gpus they're are apus. I expect both system to field better results than anand's performance charts.
Dude, this forum has a quote button, you should learn to use it for the sake of readibility.
The thing about family stuff could be true. 1h was family thing, but since they dropped that to follow up with ps4, they can assume anything about their previous policies
That stuff doesnt happen. It was incredible limited before, so why should we get even more negative press while we could beef up those idiotic restrictions, simply lying?
I too would talk great about our things we would have done which were originally limited to my ass instead of getting more anger from the people
Wickerbasket
Member
Pro Tip: you can quote people by clicking the blue quote button under their username. It also makes it easier for others to see who you're replying to.
How do you manage to get banned from System Wars? How is that even possible?
Design choice in order to easily hit 60fps? Yes, probably.
I was fine with you for the most part (entitled to your opinion and all), but this post is just...
Yeah, it is like they are migrating...
lol thanks I got that figured out now, clear as day too .
well the mods banned me but that's a whole story in itself, the posters love me, cows lems and sheeps if they still exist.
My point is, Leadbetter's article ; alongside Anand and Tom's Hardware -
ARE NOT accurate, scientific, or even remotely good metrics at extrapolating machine wide performance.
Leadbetter's article assumes all things are equal between both machines other than GPU. I've already mentioned three massive advantages PS4 has over the Xbox 1. It isn't a far fetched concept to understand that a bandwith advantage, a compute advantage, and less coding restrictions will equate to a much higher performance in favor of the PS4. C'mon mang -_-
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
So you use your first post to insult this forum and its users in a blanket statement, then tell us to "bash on," completely oblivious to the irony of that statement.
What a waste.
And then you flat out call the mods biased? Ouch.
Aquamarine
Member
A GameSpot mod said here:
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29415684/rip-mr720fan
...that Mr720Fan was bandodging. So apparently the most recent ban wasn't the only one he's received.
smallios74
Member
I wonder how you will feel when TitanFall doesn't run at 1080p
Oh btw check this article out-
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=536
The GPU is much more powerful than Xbox 1 (clocked higher) and much less powerful than PS4 (clocked way lower). Once again, isolating the GPU variable doesn't do much but add confusion and makes Leadbetter's, Anand's, and Tom's Hardware unreliable to try and extrapolate performance from GPU VS GPU.
Posted something in the old closed thread, this http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_hd_7850_and_7870_review,21.html , this shows an approx 50% increase between a 7750 and a 7850. Still dont know why they didnt use those two for the comparrsion as both are as close Tflops wise to the GPUs in the PS4/XB1.
cool gif, thanks , im glad im entitled to my opinion.I was fine with you for the most part (entitled to your opinion and all), but this post is just...
A design choice to get better visuals for the frame rate most likely.
And obviously you're right about closed versus open, but that was not his point with the benches or Anandtechs goal with that earlier article, it was merely to show how the closest comparing GPUs to the ones in the PS4 and XO perform at an open platform level, and on that basis the cards they used to replicate each consoles gpu are considerably more accurate than Leadbetter or DF's like for like.
Your first and last most likely. Welcome.
DarkLordMalik
Member
How can it be a design choice? :S
I mean it is using freaking Source Engine, which is 8 years old engine and still they can't manage to run it on 1080/60p.
Lifesontheline
Banned
Oh absolutely ps4 has an considerable advantage over the xbox one you'd be stupid to disagree. just not ultra 1080p -1600x900 difference your post displayed.
Claude Kenni
Member
Because it's easy for defensive people to assume his post is generalizing a higher percentage than he means it to just to try to invalidate the overall premise.
Does anybody really doubt that certain PS4 fans went from not fine to fine with about 5GB of RAM for games when it became a likely possibility? Many didn't, that doesn't mean those that did shouldn't be called out. It's not as simple as one specific example either, it's the train of thought of some people who already made their mind up and will interpret things in a way that confirms that.
I had about 8 there lol. they banned for absolutely nothing. they even reinstated one of my bans because they said that fanboyism was allowed and trolling was allowed and I never posted once on that username cause I forgot the username and password and this banned it again. Systemwars is a lot of fun, I will not troll here and or do the stuff I have done in the past over there. it was never bad, always for laughs, thanks for being inspector gadget though for neogaf, im sure the people in systemwars are loving this right now.
That's subjective.
The only game that interested me from Microsoft's E3 showing was KI.
And yes, I have seen Titanfall.
Winterfang
Banned
Who is the mod in charge with this topic title? He is doing a shitty ass job. The title is incomprensible.
R3TRODYCE
Member
All that anger, all that rage, lets bottle it.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Thanks, as a follow up, is that 6 confirmed to be physical, or 5.5 + 0.5 page/virtual? Just curious if the OS is still hanging on to 2GB or 2.5. 6 plus the 0.5 virtual sounds petty close to the original assumed 7GB's.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Sony has been providing quite a lot of bits and pieces that appeal to the kind of gaming audience sites like GAF host, so in a way there is quite a lot of goodwill for PS4 and I do not think it is undeserved or grossly overblown. MS has not handled its message well and tried to do some not too popular things and changed their tune massively probably after they started talked with their retail partners and saw that their policies were costing them money (Sony and MS are ultimately corporations and bottom line [short, medium, or long term] is a key factor in their policies... sometimes good intentions by their employees and what the corporation does align too).
When the PS3 launched, when PSN got hacked, when PSP and PS Vita launched, etc.... There have been tons of times in which the immediate temperature could read as Sony hating... but it was not a master plan against Sony, but just what the common thought was by many... right or wrong (Windows Vista was not a bad OS in m experience and an important technological stepping stone for MS, but clearly the average consensus was decidedly über negative beyond discussion
).BRocknRolla
Member
So this thread has straight up become people talking about the merits of the systems and their games and a bunch of people slapping each other on the back and talking about whether or not they're good at gafing.
So much for RAM discussion. I guess it's been a directionless mess the whole way through, so these juniors are just embracing it.
So much for RAM discussion. I guess it's been a directionless mess the whole way through, so these juniors are just embracing it.
I know you defend Leadbetter, but writing is on the wall and has been for a long time dude..
That dude will usually always try and spin things pro Microsoft or less favourably to Sony in any given scenario, or at least downplay the disadvantages to one over the other. This last article and his last few articles and false accounts just add further fuel to that fire. Not saying he doesn't have some merit, but anyone who genuinely relies on Leadbetter for anything other than light hearted reading fodder is doing themselves a massive disservice.
Uh, thuway isn't defending Leadbetter at all...
He did earlier in the thread lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's a lovely guy in person, but on the subject of tech talk... Well, there's many GAFers who could do a much better and fairer job.
FlutterPuffs
Member
I am actually. It's interesting where MS will take Xbox One to. I won't buy one in the near future, considering that nothing has excited me about the system yet but I'll be glad if they started kicking ass and make great games. Competition can only mean better games for us.
This doesn't mean I won't make potshots at it once in a while though.
I honestly find plenty of flaws with what he's written, but I do think this Digital Foundry Witch Hunt is a little immature. We can intelligently call him out without resorting to smear campaigning a professional's 15+ year career in the tech industry.
Oh and nib I<3u. Ramadan Mubarak (just had Iftar here in Pakistan)
velociraptor
Junior Member
Which GPU?I wonder how you will feel when TitanFall doesn't run at 1080p
Oh btw check this article out-
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=536
The GPU is much more powerful than Xbox 1 (clocked higher) and much less powerful than PS4 (clocked way lower). Once again, isolating the GPU variable doesn't do much but add confusion and makes Leadbetter's, Anand's, and Tom's Hardware unreliable to try and extrapolate performance from GPU VS GPU.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
Wow. I'm pretty new here (though I've lurked for a while), but is that the fastest ban ever?
Not that it wasn't deserved. I mean, right off the bat he's hurling insults at the forum, its users, and the mods. Then tried to act like "Oh gee shucks, I was banned from GameSpot because of reasons that somehow aren't my fault."
Bleh.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
So the juniors are on a mission for equality due to some miss placed sense of bias against MS. This shit is fasinating, someone should be taking note of this, it would make for a good book.
Well, that was quick.
You're saying that Sony has given reason for individuals to have (some sort of) passionate loyalty to a piece of unreleased plastic. Such loyalty to the point of downplaying and/or lashing out at every piece of news for the competing platform? Crazy.
R3TRODYCE
Member
I'll wait for the movie.
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