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FFXV character designer Roberto Ferrari comments on his creations on Facebook
- Thread starter Ganon Dragmire
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Looks like a silver haired Saix with his hair down.
I do agree with what you said, BUT... as I've gotten older, I've ended up gravitating more toward Western RPGs where I do get to have my gender and sexuality represented, and away from Japanese RPGs where all of that is decided for me. Now, I can enjoy a game just fine even if I can't directly identify with the main characterUncharted and The Last of Us as two perfect examplesbut in order for that to happen, you have to give me strong characters and a good story.
And that's where JRPGs have been failing me. Back when my options were Phantasy Star or Final Fantasy VI or Valkyrie Profile or whatever, no problem. But I can't help but feeland maybe it's because I'm older nowthat the stories are getting worse and the characters more worthless in too many JRPGs compared to what we used to get. I'd rather have a no-name character with not as much writing put into them that I can customize than many of the protagonist Japanese devs are asking me to care about. Even with one of my favorite RPG brands in existence, SMT, I'm tiring of the "we're making the MC mute and devoid of a real personality so you can pretend that they're you, which doesn't actually work" thing.
Funny enough though, FFXV is one game where I had zero complaints about the cast. I mean, the story is hot garbage, but the four main boys were all fun and I grew to love them. So, I had fun playing the game. Unfortunately, I consider that to be an exception to how JRPGs are anymore, not the rule.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Well...
It's a miracle they gave her pants, but yeah that top part is still crap.
Paracelsus
Member
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fujoshi
Mainly definition #2. When Japan caters to women it basically just reverses the concept of "yuri", big group of pretty androginous boys
(and the token burly character)
It's also why the mainstream western female audience didn't get this wasn't a male/shounen power fantasy at all. They saw four males, they didn't bother to see what they looked like, they just saw Cidney dancing around and it escalated from there. The writing was on the wall when there gave you a boy band and no female party member.
isn't aranea a mercenary?
Yup .
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Why is no one talking about how this confirms that there were rewrites every 2 seconds?
Because pretty much everyone already knows that's the case?
I mean, try to find a single person that honestly believes that this was one consistent plotline since inception to release.
Probably becuse it's obvious when you play the game.
Shit i thought you were someone else. I'm saying that outfit was something that looks like it was thrown together on the fly while on the run it doesn't make sense she'd have some identical outfit made while queen.
It changing from spin off to mainline, to multiple sequels, to one title doesn't help.
That and rushed release.
So... human Umbra was hooded Ravus! x)
I definitely wouldn't call XV a rushed release. The game needed more time but it's not like they didn't have time to make this game. It was reannounced back in 2013 for gods sake. If anything it just means SE is slow and not very good at making fast developments.
LordKasual
Banned
Games are made by humans and there's a finite amount of work a group of humans can feasibly do in that kind of environment. No amount of money is going to replace the ultimate resource, which is time and energy. I'll give The Last Guardian the exact same praise for being so troubled yet still coming through and being decent despite a development lasting 2 console generations.
And even without the review scores, the game is still impressive, at the very least on an objective technical level. You may not think so, but...well, majority of the reviewers did. They majorily seem to be saying what everyone was hoping for (a revitalization of interest in the series). I guess we just have a very particular group of Final Fantasy fans here at GAF as the majority, but I personally found FFXV more interesting than the last 3 FF games combined.
FFXV is the first FF game since XII to actually push the series somewhere new, and instead of just adding a few sparkles and ribbons to the formula, they took the game into 2 different genres. And the majority of people (and fans) enoyed it. That is impressive.
...But you just used a review score to show how unimpressive XV is?
I guess we'll see how profitable it is, it had the best launch in the series thus far (if you ignore japan, its a very different market than when XIII released).
NHarmonic.
Member
Nomura was in charge of the party + Cor in design? Or only Noctis?
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I guess I've been on GFaqs too much where people are denying this lol
Wait a minute. Doesn't this basically confirm the recent leaks!? oO Way too random not to be from an actual insider.
You could also get away with simpler character designs in the old days because of graphical limitations. Many great characters of old have very simple outfits and remain just as iconic then as now. Because of our graphics now, designers have to get ultra realistic or overly dramatized in their work for it to be consider 'acceptable'. That's why we have designs like Quiet, Cidney, and Two Worlds boob ladies.
NHarmonic.
Member
Lol Cindy's design is really really tasteless and raunchy as fuck.
Oh what recent leaks?
theofficefan99
Junior Member
There was one where they stated Gentiana was supposed to be more samurai-ish.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/74675878
Wouldn't be surprised if this was accurate at one point but not anymore considering they rewrote the game every 3 months and probably even more frequently afterwards.
lol wow seriously wtf
Dark_castle
Junior Member
If my car has problems, I go to a mechanic to get my car fixed, not my dick sucked.
Not really true. The only scene you could argue that is her cleaning the regalia. Other than that, she's not treated like a sex object at all in the game, which only makes her outfit even more out of place. I dislike her design a lot, but the main reason for that is exactly because she's actually a nice character, even if not super developed.
Does Cidney suck your dick in the game? Actually, does every woman dressing in this kind of outfit suck your dick for no reason when you randomly meet them? What the fuck are you talking about?
When you go to an event and there's something stupid like booth babes, do they suck your dick as well?
Jesus Christ.
LordKasual
Banned
Unfinished, no. Rushed, obviously????
The game was delayed, and they were "speaking with Just Cause developers" about integrating flying as late as August 2015...
And they were developing the engine for the game as well...it took so long for optimization to be completed that the game looked horrible in comparison not even 3 months from release.
So an attractive girl with a skirt/shorts and heels will suck your dick? What are you even trying to say? It's not like Cindy goes around the game sucking dicks. She fixes and customizes your car.
Holy shit if true.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Nomura was in charge of the party's faces + Stella's face during Versus. When Versus became XV, the party's faces + Stella's face were redesigned by art director Yusuke Naora (and Stella was renamed to Luna). ROEN were in charge of their outfits.
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
I think he's been watching too much Brazzers.
I mean, flying was definitely just fanservice. There's one place you need the airship to reach, and they could just have you interact with something to take you there instead, in case they didn't manage to add it.
I do agree that it would benefit from more development time, absolutely, I just don't think this is the greatest example you could give.
When you know something is rushed, any half-assed feature will look like evidence of a rushed aspect, but some times they're just half-assed. Plenty of complete games have half-assed shit in them.
Didn't Naora only redesign them for Chapter 0 visuals, though? I don't see much of a difference in design ever since 2011 for the main party. Prompto being the exception.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I doubt this is true.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
VII remake faces almost none of the obstacles that versus did.
It has a team working on it, they have UE4, they know how to make HD games, the ps4 is much easier to work with, i wouldnt worry to much.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I thought Nomura was the artist for this game.
LordKasual
Banned
This could be the start of a cheap porno. Especially since she's very blatantly doing nothing that resembles a mechanic working on a car.
Here's the part where I ask you to find me gifs/videos/moments in the game where Cindy has sexual emotes designed rush blood to your dick. Because "woman wiping windows" and "woman tinkering with knobs" is not sexual.
Cindy animates like a completely normal person, her outfit is literally the only sexual thing about her. Put her in pants / jumpsuit and you guys would have nothing to say about her.
If you guys really think Cindy is as bad as Quiet, then you either didn't play FFXV or you didn't play MGSV. Or you need new eyes / sexual education.
Edit:
Don't bother posting the one from Episode Duscae where the guy put the camera on her ass, it doesn't count. Also don't bother posting the opening where the camera pans past her back for 2 seconds before doing the same thing to Cid.
Yeah I'm more willing to believe 4 chan, lol.
All in all, he ended up doing very little. Just the 4 protagonists' faces, and maybe he had a say in how they are clothed.
Clothing was due to Roen.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Nope he technically redesigned all of them, but it's mostly noticeable on Prompto and Stella->Luna.
Nomura designed the original faces of Noctis, Gladiolus, Ignis, Prompto, and Stella. ROEN designed the outfits of these 5 characters. Yusuke Naora redesigned these 5 characters after Versus XIII became XV.
All the other characters were designed by Yusuke Naora and Roberto Ferrari.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
The leak or the fact that it was rewritten every 3 months (bc the latter is in the OP)?
The leak.
NHarmonic.
Member
Why is he credited constantly on the game as rhe character designer then? I don't get it, specially after everything we've learned today...
I know, hence what I said. I doubt they just gave Roen the characters and said "Dress'em however you want", someone from S-E must have approved. Was it Nomura? Who knows, but it doesn't seem a stretch to me.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I mean, if anything the samurai/Gentiana thing may just be a lucky guess, but then again a bunch of us said "lucky guess" when another leak mentioned the opening being Ifrit and E3 being Titan.