BigBadShamoo
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I don't think the NCAA effected viewership, APEX aired during the super bowl and it STILL had impressive stream numbers. It's just you either know about it or you don't.
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Final Round 2015 - Fighting Game Tournament - March 20th - 22nd
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The Super Bowl certainly hurt viewership numbers. It couldn't break over 75,000 for Smash 4 until the Superbowl ended when it peaked at 98,000 for the grand finals of Smash 4, and then peaked around 112,000 for the Leffen-Mang0 match in Melee.
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theprodigy
Member
if everything didn't get pushed back so much cause of the venue disaster, it could have probably peaked even higher, Melee got hit by the SF4 Evo timeslot
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Eh that might be true, but it didn't effect me, I was watching both at the same damn time lol. Superbowl on the tv at my friends superbowl party and APEX on my phone lol. It was an awesome weekend.
do you think the disaster helped viewership? Gaming sites reported about it
KidA Seven
Member
Not sure about that. I think the venue disaster brought extra attention to the event.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
The disaster definitely helped the online streaming numbers grow as it's pretty much just another link or tweet that goes out telling people about the event.
sf2fanatic
Member
I was in Vegas all weekend and missed FR. Any SFV gameplay/exhibition?
Highlight of my time there was accidentally thumbing Pokchop in the eye. Straight Ric Flair'd his ass.
Great tournament and loved the new venue. Was my first time there since I had been skipping ever since they stopedp having it on Buford Highway (shorter trip for me). Gonna upload this Zoolander-esque picture of Inkognito soon.
Great tournament and loved the new venue. Was my first time there since I had been skipping ever since they stopedp having it on Buford Highway (shorter trip for me). Gonna upload this Zoolander-esque picture of Inkognito soon.
Gunslinger
Member
What are you guys talking about the viewership is growing. Back in 2011 or 2012 you would get 15k views max for a major finals. Now they are reaching 60k. Evolution had around 80k viewers in 2012 and 150k+ in 2014. Just like viewership participation number going up too. Majors wasn't getting more than 100-150 for SFIV during 2010-11 but now they are reaching 500+ more large majors alone.
SloaneRisette
Member
Nope
It's not a stretch to want more views, especially in the face of LoL/Dota 2/what have you. I think it's fantastic we're getting like 150k views at Evo, but of course we all want this community to blow up and be huge.
It'll just take time, if it gets to the level of MOBAs at all.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Thank you. Pity, would have loved to see Dieminion in top 3.
And what venue disaster are you guys talking about? This is news to me.
Immortal Technique
Member
when APEX's hotel venue got condemned and they had to scramble to find another location. It was a big story that got talked about a lot on the Internets, so I agree that ultimately it helped the viewership numbers despite messing with the schedule
Gunslinger
Member
The reason for that MOBAs are f2p man. Anyone can get into it. Besides as soon as you log in you are bombarded with stream ads. Capcom needs to implement something like this on their game. Where as soon as you boot up the game there's a huge ad for the stream in the game menu. Plus i feel personally fighting games scare lot of people off due to their very high skill cap entry level. Casuals can pick up LoL and fight against bots in a co-op scenario. Allowing them to slowly get into the game and things like that.
Heck NRS and all other FG devs should implement in game stream promotion. I do believe with the help of PS4 SFV or MK or any popular FGs in general will gain more viewers because they promote the stream in the PS menu when you select the game to boot up in the highlight section. Honestly i feel like FGs are amazing spectator wise. They are more hype than any genre of gaming, people who never play FG can watch and understand whats going on somewhat. I honestly find MOBAs are snooze fest to watch. 40 min of nothing and 10 sec of all attack IMO ofcourse.
Indeed; making FGs as big as MOBAs require making them as accessible as MOBAs; and removing the super high barrier to entry as well as creating a better and more consistent path to get from newbie level to "can get out of pools at a major".
Immortal Technique
Member
Was just going to say basically the same thing regarding fighting games, you can follow the action and get hype watching even if you don't play them. That should be a major trump, but I guess it's still dwarfed by the sheer number of people playing MOBAs.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Mobas are team games. This is a huge point. Somebody can carry you and you can blame others for loses. FGs are you sinking and swimming on your own. Making it like mobas would change the core of what it is now.
If that what happens, so be it, or it will evolve into something else in addition to 1v1. Something like incarnates namco game or something.
Me personally, i like 1v1 fgs and arena shooters. Im old though.
I think think they need to integrate the promotion of this stuff better through the actual game UI when you log on, betters apps to track this stuff. Make it easy for people to enjoy and follow.
If that what happens, so be it, or it will evolve into something else in addition to 1v1. Something like incarnates namco game or something.
Me personally, i like 1v1 fgs and arena shooters. Im old though.
I think think they need to integrate the promotion of this stuff better through the actual game UI when you log on, betters apps to track this stuff. Make it easy for people to enjoy and follow.
Immortal Technique
Member
It's probably just ridiculous to aspire to MOBA numbers. Take them out of the equation, how respectable are FGC viewer numbers then, comparing to other games' big events?
Dark Ninja
Member
Capcom has to make Pro Tour Events VODs Free and available right after the event is over. None of this choosing 5 matches out of 50 and uploading them to youtube
Less than Hearthstone, less than CS GO. Pretty much less than most E sports games.
CountBlack
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#FACTSONLY
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Shouta
Member
Goddammit kids.
Kimo, if you're only going to post complaints about the game you're not going to ever enjoy watching being on stream, don't post it. It's just noise.
Sayah, cut the nonsense. Folks enjoy matches for different reasons, no one has to use your lens watch something.
SF4 was 20th in Twitch viewership numbers.
That said, I think we'll see a small bump with SF5, as it will be more unpredictable than SF4 is now, at least initially. A good PC port if Capcom pulls it off will also help tremendously.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Does anyone know where I can watch an archive of the Smash 4 tourney?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Had to make up for lost time. I wanted to do some streaming every night but things were so busy that we couldn't get anything going until finals day.
If anyone wants a recap of the mishaps on the anime side of the venue, I've got it posted here:
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/inde...20-22-2015-atlanta-ga-final-round18/?p=902917
I think over the years Shinblanka has been pretty good to the anime scene and other less popular games, so even if this year kinda stunk for them he deserves a second chance.
I don't think he's one of the bad TOs. Was probably my most enjoyable experience out of the majors I've been to.
I don't think he's one of the bad TOs. Was probably my most enjoyable experience out of the majors I've been to.