interesting speculation.
what if Gaf was also rendered in cg? O:
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First image of Moby Dick Studio's (The Phantom Pain) CEO Joakim Mogren
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I think the person is Ludvig Forssell! https://www.facebook.com/ludvig.forssell
1. He is from Sweden
2. He is working on the Fox Engine
Makes sense for me.
1. He is from Sweden
2. He is working on the Fox Engine
Makes sense for me.
Editing. I imagine that having Keighley looking down at an object out of frame isn't that hard to do.
Spiffy_1st
Member
What if the developer is an AI.
I think the expectations you guys have, are a bit over the top indeed. Sure, Kojima's games/engine have always had some nice stuff, but thinking that Joakim Mogren is CG is just... he looks too realistic for that to be true.
Don't forget, you guys keep looking at the same "small" .gif over and over looking for details because you THINK it's cg. Your mind will play tricks with you if you really believe something.
Look at this bigger image for example. There's a lot of details in his face that cg would miss. The small red dot under his lips for example. And the cracks in his lips because they're dry.
Don't forget, you guys keep looking at the same "small" .gif over and over looking for details because you THINK it's cg. Your mind will play tricks with you if you really believe something.
Look at this bigger image for example. There's a lot of details in his face that cg would miss. The small red dot under his lips for example. And the cracks in his lips because they're dry.
http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/n6iadz/gt-tv-real-march-madness
"Oh I see Fox Engine Logo"
(Startled face)
God that was stupid...
"Oh I see Fox Engine Logo"
(Startled face)
God that was stupid...
Noisepurge
Member
I believe dectectiveGAF had already came up with that theory yesterday, but I dunno if it was ever proven to really be him.
Her face look very blurred - Joakim's not.
Isn't that face replacement software? Not really the same thing and she's rather fake looking.
Noisepurge
Member
her face is on a 360p youtube video...
yeah more like LA Noire tech but i mean that was done years ago, im sure Fox Engine can do whatever by today's standards
I'd love for that to be true for the future of games but I just don't believe it. Not yet.
But they left the most difficult parts to animate uncovered. The eyes and the mouth are the tell, always.Part of what makes it convincing is most of his face is covered up.
Ok GAF, you're starting to make me believe this crazy theory now...
The lips and eyes look weird as hell to me. I don't think it's because he's putting on a fake Scandinavian accent.
I think he's just a guy putting on a weird act. His eyes and lip movement look real to me, a real bad actor.
That was 2008, 5 years ago.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
This interview was not filmed with Geoff and "Joakim" in the same room, or, it was not filmed simultaneously with two cameras.
When Joakim gets out his iPad, Geoff starts commenting on the pictures. He says "those look like some new screens" before the screenshot even appears. He also recognised the whale before it's in full view.
You also never see both of them in the same frame together.
The lighting doesn't seem consistent between Geoff and Joakim. Geoff's face is much more harshly lit on one side. One would expect the same on Joakim's face, but it's much softer. This could be achieved in the same environment so it's not conclusive. I believe the other stuff is however.
When Joakim gets out his iPad, Geoff starts commenting on the pictures. He says "those look like some new screens" before the screenshot even appears. He also recognised the whale before it's in full view.
You also never see both of them in the same frame together.
The lighting doesn't seem consistent between Geoff and Joakim. Geoff's face is much more harshly lit on one side. One would expect the same on Joakim's face, but it's much softer. This could be achieved in the same environment so it's not conclusive. I believe the other stuff is however.
runnin_blue
Banned
Hardly. Fox Engine at work:
Fox Engine with next gen consoles will probably yield better results as well.
I see you trying to make a point & I acknowledge that. But wait until that scene is in a moving video, real time & then come talk to me.
Hardly. Fox Engine at work:
Fox Engine with next gen consoles will probably yield better results as well.
No.
Fox Engine is running on PCs far more powerful than next gen consoles.
Hell, you can build a PC now for less than $1000 that is significantly more powerful than next gen consoles. And that is not even factoring in new GPUs or CPUs out this year.
Dorito Pope knows what's going to happen before it does, he transcends time and space.
do we know if this website belongs to moby dick studios?
http://thephantompain.com/
it has this image posted to it: (notice "pain" "Lumin" and "portion" have a light red (pink) hue... and the number (a time maybe?)
of course it may not have ANYTHING to do with it... i dont know.
http://thephantompain.com/
it has this image posted to it: (notice "pain" "Lumin" and "portion" have a light red (pink) hue... and the number (a time maybe?)
of course it may not have ANYTHING to do with it... i dont know.
do we know if this website belongs to moby dick studios?
http://thephantompain.com/
it has this image posted to it: (notice "pain" "Lumin" and "portion" have a light red (pink) hue... and the number (a time maybe?)
of course it may not have ANYTHING to do with it... i dont know.
I think thats the fake site.
WolfForager
Member
Just watched the "interview", there is no chance in hell that the guy is CGI/Fox Engine.
However seems to unquestionably MGS5.
However seems to unquestionably MGS5.
runnin_blue
Banned
Maaaan, this is reminding me waaaay too much of the Nintendo Revolution hype/speculation leading up to the reveal.
All the crazies are crawling out from under their rocks. Lol.
What can I say but...
Man I feel old...
All the crazies are crawling out from under their rocks. Lol.
What can I say but...
Man I feel old...
Excellent, haha!
Damn, way too late on this.
If they'd added rring! sound too I would have lost it completely.
And you good sir, almost nailed it.
Angry Fork
Member
So many negative nancey's in this thread, jesus. Just enjoy the ride, we know it's dumb. We will get stuff at GDC so would you rather have nothing at all, just a press release saying "we'll be at GDC", or this fun little side story that gets everyone involved and generates hype.
BurritoBushido
Member
WHERE IS THIS GIF FROM
Ninja Scooter
Member
Calling someone a nancy is pretty mysogonist.
Mystic_Wanderer
Member
Not at all the same context. Wow. You keep making yourself look better and better.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I've never met any men named nancy. It's pretty clear what is meant.
Mystic_Wanderer
Member
You've really never heard the term "negative nancy"? How old are you?
tfur
Member
Lol. What about Debbie Downer?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Another female name. Coincidence?
kidtamagotchi
Member
Just watched the interview again. Joakim is portrayed by a totally real person. There is too much life and emotion in his eyes for it to be CG. His lips move as they should and the dialogue is way too natural sounding. Pretty funny interview! Metal Gear Solid 5 looks crazy!