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GCN x Wii: A Catalogue Comparison.
- Thread starter Refreshment.01
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I see what you did there.
For Tales of Symphonia on GC you used a screenshot of the Wii spin off sequel, and for Baten Kaitos Origins you used an artwork of the first episode.
Bur great work op.
Chezzymann
Member
How am I supposed to know what is what when theres just a group number at the top of each grid for most of them?
Fixed some things for you:
Resident Evil 4 << Resident Evil 4 Wii Ed. + Darkside/Umbrella Chronicles
WW + TP << TP + SS (or at least equal)
Metroid Prime 1+2 << Metroid Prime 3 + Other M + Trilogy
Good stuff.
Definitely liked the Wii's output better. Much more diverse, more games that were at least good (Gamecube library was top heavy) and enhanced versions of the Gamecube's best games such as MP1/2, Pikmin 1/2, RE4.
Loved the action games like MadWorld, NMH1/2, Red Steel 2, Silent Hill SM, the CoD's and Goldeneye and the 2D platformers NSMB, Epic Yarn, Return to Dreamland, Rayman and DKCR. The Galaxys were way better then Sunshine. MKDD and Melee only slightly better then Brawl and MKWii. Great party games on Wii. And then there's Xenoblade.
Yup. Loved the Wii's library.
Definitely liked the Wii's output better. Much more diverse, more games that were at least good (Gamecube library was top heavy) and enhanced versions of the Gamecube's best games such as MP1/2, Pikmin 1/2, RE4.
Loved the action games like MadWorld, NMH1/2, Red Steel 2, Silent Hill SM, the CoD's and Goldeneye and the 2D platformers NSMB, Epic Yarn, Return to Dreamland, Rayman and DKCR. The Galaxys were way better then Sunshine. MKDD and Melee only slightly better then Brawl and MKWii. Great party games on Wii. And then there's Xenoblade.
Yup. Loved the Wii's library.
Whoa. Was not expecting that in the OP. A Lot of work!
Personally, from a first-party point of view (usually all I care about) the Wii way out-performed the Cube.
Plus, you have all those be Wii-Line IPs which collectively were awesome.
And then, VC adding infinite more value.
Personally, from a first-party point of view (usually all I care about) the Wii way out-performed the Cube.
Plus, you have all those be Wii-Line IPs which collectively were awesome.
And then, VC adding infinite more value.
Agreed, great looking work - but as vague as it could possibly be.
That console war is over, and the casual influx failed to doom all of video gaming, so people are now ready to look at Wii as something other than a personal insult.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
That is some impressive stuff there. Great job Refresh!
I loved both systems pretty strongly, but I honestly don't think it's a question that Wii has the better library. And then you have full BC anyway. On top of the VC and other downloadables.
I loved both systems pretty strongly, but I honestly don't think it's a question that Wii has the better library. And then you have full BC anyway. On top of the VC and other downloadables.
The Wii ended up with more third party exclusives then the 360 or PS3 and had the best first party output.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Presumably so as not to derail the thread by - for example - making a group called "FPSes" that contains Metroid Prime
The Gamecube was barely on my radr=ar with only Resident Evil 4 being its most notable title.
The poor image of the Wii has to do with many games we were expecting to see on the #1 selling console never came to pass and the last 2 years left a bad taste a lot of of people's mouths.
The poor image of the Wii has to do with many games we were expecting to see on the #1 selling console never came to pass and the last 2 years left a bad taste a lot of of people's mouths.
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm a Nintendo guy anyway so I loved my GameCube more than my XBOX and my Wii more than my X360. The games appealed to me and the quality was always there, even if the game libraries didn't stack up the same way.
Both systems were quite underrated but I feel like the Wii faced a lot of unnecessary ridicule throughout its lifetime. It may end up being considered one of the most underrated consoles of all time for its high quality Nintendo output and also the vast array of unique exclusives otherwise. Especially for multiplayer, the Wii was utterly fantastic.
Taste aside, it's pretty easy to see why the Wii could be considered better than the GC.
Both systems were quite underrated but I feel like the Wii faced a lot of unnecessary ridicule throughout its lifetime. It may end up being considered one of the most underrated consoles of all time for its high quality Nintendo output and also the vast array of unique exclusives otherwise. Especially for multiplayer, the Wii was utterly fantastic.
Taste aside, it's pretty easy to see why the Wii could be considered better than the GC.
Host Samurai
Member
Great post OP.
Wii trumps GC
GC's Exclusive Strengths
-Killer7
-PN 03
-Viewtiful Joe
-Eternal Darkness
-Mario Sunshine
-Wind Waker
-Ultimate Muscle (Game was awesome. Come at me)
-Tales of Symphonia
-Skies of Arcadia
-Capcom vs SNK
Didn't list Resident Evil 4, ReMake & Zero because they got ported
Wii had an amazing library that has already been covered
Wii trumps GC
GC's Exclusive Strengths
-Killer7
-PN 03
-Viewtiful Joe
-Eternal Darkness
-Mario Sunshine
-Wind Waker
-Ultimate Muscle (Game was awesome. Come at me)
-Tales of Symphonia
-Skies of Arcadia
-Capcom vs SNK
Didn't list Resident Evil 4, ReMake & Zero because they got ported
Wii had an amazing library that has already been covered
Not exclusive (most of them were the leading version though).
Padawan of Windu
Member
For me, the Wii is right up there with the Super Nintendo with just the pure amount of awesome (especially first party) games for it. Still have quite a backlog left for it.
I'm sorry, but that's one clusterfuck of an OP.
And, IMO, the Cube's library is better and it's not even close. Take away the Galaxies(and Xenoblade) and the Wii library starts to look like real ass. Not to mention that many of the Wii sequels to Nintendo franchises were also the worst games of their respective franchises.
And, IMO, the Cube's library is better and it's not even close. Take away the Galaxies(and Xenoblade) and the Wii library starts to look like real ass. Not to mention that many of the Wii sequels to Nintendo franchises were also the worst games of their respective franchises.
theprodigy
Member
SS>WW, since never
also Other M singlehandedly makes Metroid on Wii worse
well yeah, everything looks nice compared to Wii U
Prince Vultan
Banned
Wii library shits all over GC library. How is this even a question? Most of the best GC games came out on Wii anyways in some form.
Only thing GC actually has over Wii is that Paper Mario 2 never got released on Wii... we just got that Super PM trash instead.
Seriously... why did PM2 never get rereleased anywhere? Even the first game is downloadable on Wii.
Only thing GC actually has over Wii is that Paper Mario 2 never got released on Wii... we just got that Super PM trash instead.
Seriously... why did PM2 never get rereleased anywhere? Even the first game is downloadable on Wii.
For me the most impressive thing about the Gamecube is how EVERY mainline Resident Evil was playable on the system
Resident Evil Zero ("exclusive")
REmake ("exclusive")
Resident Evil 2 (ps1 port)
Resident Evil 3 Nemesis(ps1 port)
Resident Evil Code Veronica X (dreamcast port)
Resident Evil 4 (timed exclusive)
Not bad for a "kiddy console" xD
Resident Evil Zero ("exclusive")
REmake ("exclusive")
Resident Evil 2 (ps1 port)
Resident Evil 3 Nemesis(ps1 port)
Resident Evil Code Veronica X (dreamcast port)
Resident Evil 4 (timed exclusive)
Not bad for a "kiddy console" xD
I dont entirely understand every grouping. Maybe label what each group is supposed to represent? I get the racing, fighting, party games, but not all of them.
Also, maybe some bar graphs/pie charts?
I appreciate all the work, but i think it makes it a bit hard to get the point OP is trying to make. Throwing out data points is nice, but data analysis is nicer.
Those prices for the old ones were rip-offs. $30-$40 for a single straight up port? Come on. Should have been $40 for 2, 3, and Code all in a single package.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Gintoki313
Banned
I saw One Piece Grand Adventure in one pic, that game was... meh.
Some of the dialougue was terrible, and they took a lot out of the game since the English One Piece weren't as far ahead as the Japanese one. For example, they took out Foxy The Silver Fox and Aokiji. Along with a stage or 2.
The build your own crew part of the game was pretty fun and addicting, and when played with a friend the game gets really fun. After those 2 things, the rest of the game was meh.
Some of the dialougue was terrible, and they took a lot out of the game since the English One Piece weren't as far ahead as the Japanese one. For example, they took out Foxy The Silver Fox and Aokiji. Along with a stage or 2.
The build your own crew part of the game was pretty fun and addicting, and when played with a friend the game gets really fun. After those 2 things, the rest of the game was meh.
Take away the best games from the Gamecube library and it looks like ass too.
Too bad the best games also count, for both systems.
Ok, take away the two Metroid Primes and say.... Wind Waker and you still have a very competent Gamecube library. I can't say the same for the Wii.
I mean I don't like pulling up reviews, but they do speak for themselves, Gamecube, in general reviewed much better than the Wii.
Just a question, Super Paper Mario is considered a platform? I ask because neither of its core gamplay elements is quite dominant, it has RPG elements, but battles and leverage are not so dominant, neither platforming which is more based in puzzle solving more than platform skills.
Gintoki313
Banned
The RPG elements mostly aren't there. If I remember correctly it auto-levels everyone, so it isn't like regular Paper Mario where you could assign points yourself.
The only RPG element is that it shows how much damage you do when you attack. So it's mostly just a platformer.
megabytecr
Member
Great OP! Yes the Wii has a better library and I find it has actually some of the most varied libraries, but is lacking in sim racers and fighters.
Actually I want to play some Wii games I have in my backlog and maybe will get. Indeed the control input worked great for some games, this was the success of the Wii.
off topic. I love my Wii U and the gamepad and I am of the opinion that not every Wii U game has to make something incredible with the gamepad. Why not also use the Wii control method more for Wii U releases? I would love a Dead Space on Wii U with wiimote controls for example, but yeah not going to happen.
Actually I want to play some Wii games I have in my backlog and maybe will get. Indeed the control input worked great for some games, this was the success of the Wii.
off topic. I love my Wii U and the gamepad and I am of the opinion that not every Wii U game has to make something incredible with the gamepad. Why not also use the Wii control method more for Wii U releases? I would love a Dead Space on Wii U with wiimote controls for example, but yeah not going to happen.
Version 3.0
Member
My personal take is pretty simple, and maybe not objectively fair, but I tend to see the Gamecube - a struggling 3rd place system - as one that got more than its fair share of incredible games.
Meanwhile, the Wii, with an objectively comparable game library - as the OP shows - was the market leader, and the fastest-selling console ever during its first 3 years or so. Which makes me think of it as criminally under-supported.
Meanwhile, the Wii, with an objectively comparable game library - as the OP shows - was the market leader, and the fastest-selling console ever during its first 3 years or so. Which makes me think of it as criminally under-supported.
Version 3.0
Member
It's sad but true that several of the very best Wii games are slightly enhanced Gamecube ports.
You're being ridiculous right now.
Coffee Dog
Banned
The Wii had a few games that went toe to toe with the best in their genre. I don't think the GCN had a library that reached those heights.
stuminus3
Member
I think an apples to apples comparison is a tough thing to do because Wii games can feature gameplay that isn't actually possible on a Gamecube, from flat out not do-able (Wii Sports, Skyward Sword) to can-be-replicated-but-not-as-good (pointer controls). Though I guess "a regular analog controller" is a selling point for some.
Either way whichever system has Excite Truck has the best library. ^_^
Either way whichever system has Excite Truck has the best library. ^_^
Version 3.0
Member
Are you saying that Resident Evil 4, Twilight Princess, and the Metroid Prime games are NOT among the Wii's best games?
metalslimer
Member
Exclusive wise I think the Wii easily wins. Once you include the multiplats the GC got it's not even a question. RE4, Viewtiful Joe, Splinter Cell, Beyond Good and Evi, etc. are just amazing. Also personally I think Nintendo of the GC era was slightly more appealing even if all the games from the big franchises weren't the best
3 games doesn't count as "several", and RE4 and Metroid Prime on Wii aren't "slightly" enhanced -- their pointer controls blow the original versions' controls out of the water.
Refreshment.01
Member
@ponpo and MisterHero: The absense of explicit genre clasification if for the greater good. Just a dry group number to attempt to keep the disscussion as focused as possible. Genre clasification is not the purpose of the thread. For example:
Version 3.0
Member
There was also the entire "New Play Control" series, and the re-releases of REmake and RE Zero, some of which could easily be argued as among the Wii's best games.
As for the pointer controls, I liked that change quite a bit, but many have argued that they go against the grain of the original games' design. Considering how stellar RE4 and the Prime games already were, I most certainly would call the pointer controls a "slight enhancement", even though I enjoyed them.
I never want to play Metroid Prime or RE4 with their original controls again. I wouldn't call anything that makes the original version obsolete a minor upgrade.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would consider any of the New Play Control games or the other RE ports to be among the Wii's best games. MAYBE Pikmin 2 would crack my top 25.
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