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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
- Thread starter Cubas
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Day one mate?
There is no plane of existence where Phil Spencer possibly cares about this particular incident as much as you do or in the way you're suggesting.
Geoff's tweet preempted the official announcement for a subset of people but did not damage MS PR. If anything, it provided a buffer for the most emotionally invested gamers to vent ahead of time and be less prone to controlling social media feedback with foaming rage by the time of the conference. I'll note how the $599 PS3 unveil became codified as a meme for a decade because of how unprepared the internet was to hear that number in that moment, and the justifications and surrounding content during the conference ended up only serving as ammunition for the viral backlash that followed.
He's a journalist as well as a TV/event host, so if you're not NDAing him in this setting (whether contractually or informally) you can expect it to be fair game if he drops a pertinent tidbit to his audience.
You sound very foolish. Maybe look into directing Destiny 3.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Again, so WHY release the information? Is this the best jounatlistic integrity and insight we can get from him? Slow day in gaming world?
When you work in a corporate environment, for example, do you think when your boss asks why you made decisions a ,b and c, a simple "what does it hurt anything" will fly?
In this case, it did impact something but nothing that caters to the gamers or to the publishers (actually may have hurt MS)
These strawmen, jesus christ.
Maybe, not leaking it would have given MS a chance to present their value proposition to explain their justification behind the price before forums everywhere resorted to deadpan "Welp, DOA!"
Maybe it wasn't his info to leak? Maybe the team who worked three fucking years to get this out plus however many months to prep today's show wanted their moment? Is...is it okay for a "journalist" to not step on publishers' toes when it suits his agenda?
How would five hours to learn the price for a console that isn't readily available for pre-order or that hasn't even passed FCC clearance hurt you as a consumer?
Look, here's the thing: what's facinating to see is people nodding their head while being impressed by this nonsense "leak". "He's trustworthy (he's not)", "he's got the scoop"...
It's a distraction. The dude is an entertainer and he's going to exploit and cozy up to whoever in the industry who can help further making money. I get the guy wants to make a living, I think how he resorts to getting it is lowbrow bullshit. I used to think he mostly catered to people in the industry who could further his goals after he stopped in the middle of an awards show to tell me that lawyers from Konami kept his bro, Kojima, from attending that night (great information, by the way, changed my gaming life!) but after this, it's abundantly clear that he'll insert himself when the opportune time to make his "big breaks" relevant. Let's not even pretend he was trying to downplay this either.
Super Havoc
Banned
Some of you are hilarious. Since we don't agree with you, then we must be so concerned about Geoff's future or upset and bothered by what he did. It's like logic for 5th graders reading some of your posts.
None of us are upset. Speaking from me personally, I'm simply pointing out that as someone who has been doing this for a decade+ and has worked to build relationships with these people and game companies, coming out to tweet that undercut Phil and was a dick move. Nothing more nothing less.
Not saying he should lose anything, or that they're so hurt and upset or anything other than that. Hopefully that sinks in this time.
None of us are upset. Speaking from me personally, I'm simply pointing out that as someone who has been doing this for a decade+ and has worked to build relationships with these people and game companies, coming out to tweet that undercut Phil and was a dick move. Nothing more nothing less.
Not saying he should lose anything, or that they're so hurt and upset or anything other than that. Hopefully that sinks in this time.
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Unconfirmed Member
I just can't deal right now...
SocksAndShoes
Banned
I like how nobody is blaming the MS employee/insider who leaked the price.
E3 makes fanboys lose their damn minds every single year.
E3 makes fanboys lose their damn minds every single year.
Super Havoc
Banned
PJV3
Member
I think the boss put the price on a twenty foot wide television screen.
Vroadstar
Member
That much is true. Just imagine, if the conspiracy theories turns out to be true and that he was working with MS for a mic drop moment. I'm pretty sure the same people will be praising him to high heavens instead.
I was wrong, I fully admit it.
GHG
Gold Member
So you genuinely think that conference​ justified the price?
SocksAndShoes
Banned
It's about ethics in E3 gaming journalism.
Ricerocket
Member
Geoff only reported the price. All that shit about DOA or forum warrior stuff you don't like is not because of Geoff, it's because of MS.
InsaneTiger
Member
This thread is pretty sad. Phil could give two shits it was revealed. He is confident that their games and service with get more people to buy into the ecosystem. Whether it is a XOX or XBS, he doesn't care. Just give MS the money so when he reports to the CEO he can be given another raise or promotion within MS.
EDIT: noticed Super Havoc was called out by the owner.
Dash_Riprock
Member
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
This thread turned sad again very quickly. Geoff doesn't work for MS, he reports gaming industry news. Trying to turn on Geoff because you don't like the news is nonsense
It's funny because the way he basically borderline glossed over announcing it would be $499, you could tell he was incredibly aware of the backlash of this being $499.
I've never seen this reaction before. GAF has threads nearly every day about leaked info and trailers on games.
I've never seen anyone be mad about it.
This is next-level fanboy shit.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Uno Venova
Banned
the resemblance is uncanny
SocksAndShoes
Banned
There wasn't even a graphic for it. Phil wanted to drop that price and immediately move on.
He knows. MS knows.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
InsaneTiger
Member
I know. Shit gets leaked all the time and we all just go crazy over the details leaked not the act of the leak itself.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah it's bizarre. If you want some insight into Trump supporters read the rest of this thread. "The news is fake! The leaks are real!". It's a little depressing
As someone who's not invested in Microsoft, hearing this early - even if it was labeled a rumor - made the actual announcement a lot less shocking to me. In a good way for MS, mind you. I already had it in my mind from reading this thread, so seeing it become reality didn't cause ironic laughter and, "They're crazy." Just a chuckle, a nod, and a, "He was right."
theyre still crazy
Pancakes R Us
Member
Seriously, this. Hahah. I wake up to find this drama on here. Only on GAF, people. E3 makes people go crazy.
I reckon it was a planned leak, but to be honest, I don't care either way.
Lys Skygge
Member
😂
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Same here. Some of you guys are embarrassing lol. Save us CBOAT
Mass Effect
Member
I don't even know how to respond to this.
This would be like if I had an album coming soon, and was working with someone well-known on it, and they leaked the released date. That's what this is equivalent to.
It'd be whatever.
Spitting in my face lmao. Come on with this hyperbolic nonsense.
David Ricardo
Member
I am surprised about so many people saying Geoff betrayed MS. He just did them a favor. People had hopes Scorpio would be 399. That wasn't going to happen. So Geoff released the info as a leak so people wouldn't be letdown when info was officially released.
It seemed obvious to me.
It seemed obvious to me.
staticneuron
Member
So let me get this straight, you think the same presentation a few hours later, would have been received differently? There would be no DOA comments?
I find this thread fascinating.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
its quite something when people type out words with their very own fingers and then look at someone else and ask if they typed them.
no, i didnt say that at all.
I don't think you're getting it, respect for corporation is how he got the title of Dorito pope and still sticks to him today, and he went independant as well, in regards to what you bolded even if the price was leaked before the conference MS still had over an hour to convince everyone that such a price point was worth it, and to quite few people it didn't.
Also Geoff only leaked the price it wasn't like he leaked the whole conference and we don't know if he would have been more cryptic with the price if it was something he believed was a positive aspect of the conference, if anything he did MS a favour because it softened the blow.
staticneuron
Member
Ok let us go through this step by step.
noun - a mere possibility or probability.
- Implying that if the leak didn't happen MS could have....
- Explain the reason for $499 pricetag
- also implying that the explanation would have prevented the deadpan comments
Hence
So no, I didn't say you did that verbatim but that is the implication of your post. Thank you for clarifying a point that I didn't state. And yet you talk about strawmen....
Yellowflashdude
Member
ITT: Wont somebody think of the poor, helpless giant corporation!?
Super Havoc
Banned
Not quite, no but that has nothing to do with what I was saying nor do I think them properly selling anyone has anything to do with the X1X's worth.
I don't know who the owner of this forum is, excuse my lack of knowledge there but I don't get why you think him or anyone else "calling me out" would deter me when what I'm saying is logical so no, I won't stop and I stand by what I said. What Geoff did was a dick move. It's that simple. I don't care if none of you agree with me personally.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Wait, people are mad Geoff leaked the price?
Oh Gaming side, never change. I need a healthy dose of aimless, impotent rage every once in a while.
Oh Gaming side, never change. I need a healthy dose of aimless, impotent rage every once in a while.
metalslimer
Member
Lmao he is a fucking journalist. If you want games journalism to continued to be viewed as a joke than sure continue to suck the taint of the corporations you are supposed to be covering
It's a total current Trump supporter mentality to be that up in arms about a damn leak.
It's a total current Trump supporter mentality to be that up in arms about a damn leak.
Just to be clear.
Do you think any leak at all is a dick move by the leaker or just this instance?
The man can report on what he wants.
He literally tweeted out the price. He added no additional framing to it. He didn't say it was a bad price. He just gave us information.
You had people on here who didn't want to believe making up conspiracy theories and such about the real price would be $399.
He was right. Announcing the price took NOTHING away from that conference.
It seems like the people still upset at him almost act like he is the sole reason the price is $500.
He literally tweeted out the price. He added no additional framing to it. He didn't say it was a bad price. He just gave us information.
You had people on here who didn't want to believe making up conspiracy theories and such about the real price would be $399.
He was right. Announcing the price took NOTHING away from that conference.
It seems like the people still upset at him almost act like he is the sole reason the price is $500.