puffyshirt
Banned
He's pretty bang on about it being nostalgic. The whole "street racing" fad is pretty much over now, there's no real reason bring back the Underground name. Just bring back some of those race types and customization aspects.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Ghost Games: If new NFS: Underground can sell 15M copies, we'd make that game
- Thread starter shinobi602
- Start date
AlphaTwo00
Member
How long before they merge Real Racing with NFS?
velociraptor
Junior Member
I think EA should be happy with 5 million for an NFS games.
This is the problem with the gaming industry. If you can't make a profit at 5 million copies, then clearly you are financially incompetent.
I've had more fun with NFS Underground and NFS Underground than most recent NFS games, and they probably cost a fraction of what these current games cost.
I'm amazed at how developers seem to think throwing money will automatically make the game better.
This is the problem with the gaming industry. If you can't make a profit at 5 million copies, then clearly you are financially incompetent.
I've had more fun with NFS Underground and NFS Underground than most recent NFS games, and they probably cost a fraction of what these current games cost.
I'm amazed at how developers seem to think throwing money will automatically make the game better.
I'm actually quite impressed how GT sells so well, since it's a 'sim' racer. Will be interesting if people will continue to buy GT6, especially as this generation appears to be dwindling to an end.
GitarooMan
Member
Underground was such a product of its time. I don't think it would work as well today without major revisions, and then the hardcore fans would just say "It's not really Underground, fuck it." Difficult cycle to solve.
AlphaTwo00
Member
They probably are. This was specifically addressing the "we want underground" group, this is EA saying, "we don't need your money".
So where the hell is 15m copies coming from?
It was a number grabbed out of thin air, I wouldn't read too much into it.
block tower
Member
-Need For Speed: Underground sold 7.2 million copies in its lifetime.
-Need For Speed: Underground 2 sold 5.62 million copies in its lifetime.
compared to the recent Need For Speed titles such as..
-Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010) sold 8.5 million copies in its lifetime.
-Need For Speed: The Run sold a little over 3.5 million copies in its lifetime.
its so upside down sometimes when it comes to what games publishers like EA decide to green light. Black Box's NFS: The Run was approved, while another NFS: Underground title is considered a gamble. pure insanity lol.
-Need For Speed: Underground 2 sold 5.62 million copies in its lifetime.
compared to the recent Need For Speed titles such as..
-Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010) sold 8.5 million copies in its lifetime.
-Need For Speed: The Run sold a little over 3.5 million copies in its lifetime.
its so upside down sometimes when it comes to what games publishers like EA decide to green light. Black Box's NFS: The Run was approved, while another NFS: Underground title is considered a gamble. pure insanity lol.
PandaPedinte
Member
I also need to address something, why the fuck all these new NFS games let me start with a 400+ horse power car?
i mean, driving THIS felt good
You could feel every little upgrade in your car, lots of times thinking if you should get that little engine upgrade or buying a new spoiler, because it looked so fuckin good
seriously
I agree. I used the Peugeut 206 in the majority of the tracks in Underground 1 & 2. It felt so good upgrading the car.
Because that wouldn't satisfy EA's lust for megasucceses.
Isn't his whole point that they wouldn't hit that number?
He's just saying they won't go back to Underground because it doesn't sell enough.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
What they should do is make NFS Underground, but do like Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2 and let the people design the items. So people will make their own spoilers, hoods, decals, etc... Then sell them separately or in an item set.
witchedwiz
Member
15 million copies
I'm going to cry in a corner, we'll never see Underground again
15m copy for nsf?
YOLOOOOOOOOO XD
DidntKnowJack
Member
So basically, 'we will never make this game.'
not that it matters much for any of the listed titles aside from gt5, but those numbers are inaccurate. use polyphony's website. gt5 is sitting at 10.66 million.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I remember Underground being COD like in the UK, not 10million sales COD like, but people did line up for the sequel and it dominated the charts at Christmas, it was only after MW sales declined.
People like the underground scene and NFS had less and less customisable options as time went on, even MW had less stuff then UG2,
They should bring it back, it'll sell better then any other title they are planning in the NFS series.
People like the underground scene and NFS had less and less customisable options as time went on, even MW had less stuff then UG2,
They should bring it back, it'll sell better then any other title they are planning in the NFS series.
Wolf Akela
Member
I'd be happy even with just a digital rerelease of NFSU 1+2.
I lost my copies yeeeeeeears ago. I want to play them again.
I lost my copies yeeeeeeears ago. I want to play them again.
seattle6418
Member
So this came linked to me when discussing NFS.
I´ve said in the past that arcade racing games are just a casualty of the market changed by Gran Turismo. Back in the days where you couldn´t really do a simulation racing game, Need for Speed was the best thing you could get.
The original NFS was a huge sucess because it had realistic cars, great graphics, cockpit view, it looked realistic for the time.
Then after GT hit the market it´s like they lost that "car lover" market and tried to stick with the cop chases thinking that would bank the game.
It didn´t and they had to go Underground. It was the best decision they could have made back then, they had no other viable options.
Now EA is puzzled that the series doesn´t have continuity, well, they never tried to achieve that, it´s their fault.
The Underground scene might have been a fad, but it´s one of their best options right now.
It might not sell 15 million, but since you do´t need Porsches for Underground, their goal to break even doesn´t need to be this high
NFS is just one of the dozens of arcade oriented racing games that are struggling to find their place in the market. Gaf has told me in the past that there´s still a market for arcade racing games, but it seems like it´s hard to define who exactly is this market and what it wants.
I´m still baffled at EA that they don´t think Underground 3 is a good idea. Like the previous NFS were...
I´ve said in the past that arcade racing games are just a casualty of the market changed by Gran Turismo. Back in the days where you couldn´t really do a simulation racing game, Need for Speed was the best thing you could get.
The original NFS was a huge sucess because it had realistic cars, great graphics, cockpit view, it looked realistic for the time.
Then after GT hit the market it´s like they lost that "car lover" market and tried to stick with the cop chases thinking that would bank the game.
It didn´t and they had to go Underground. It was the best decision they could have made back then, they had no other viable options.
Now EA is puzzled that the series doesn´t have continuity, well, they never tried to achieve that, it´s their fault.
The Underground scene might have been a fad, but it´s one of their best options right now.
It might not sell 15 million, but since you do´t need Porsches for Underground, their goal to break even doesn´t need to be this high
NFS is just one of the dozens of arcade oriented racing games that are struggling to find their place in the market. Gaf has told me in the past that there´s still a market for arcade racing games, but it seems like it´s hard to define who exactly is this market and what it wants.
I´m still baffled at EA that they don´t think Underground 3 is a good idea. Like the previous NFS were...
phosphor112
Banned
It's funny how hogging the Porche license hasn't helped them out one iota.
Dead Prince
Banned
better make a mobile version.
I think he was exaggerating - i.e saying the first large number that came to his mind.
That said, even a 10 million goal would be insane. Even a 5 million goal (to break even). Games should not have to sell that much to break even.
Duallusion
Member
The Fast and The Furious times are gone, folks. Now it's all about 100 miles long runways.
Yep ...
Duxxy3
Member
Not even Gran Turismo sells that well.
I am a little worried that the series is headed for a rut. Aside from the run it has been the same game since hot pursuit. I didn't buy the run because it looked awful, I didn't buy most wanted because it looked exactly like hot pursuit (and the original most wanted game is better). Rivals looks great, but it seems like I have already played that game.
I think EA needs a rotation of racing games, like they are planning with their FPS games. Hot pursuit/Rivals/Most wanted are practically the same game. Underground could be another type of game. The last could be a burnout/crash kind of game, offroad game or simulation (though sim games sell like shit if they aren't called GT or Forza).
I am a little worried that the series is headed for a rut. Aside from the run it has been the same game since hot pursuit. I didn't buy the run because it looked awful, I didn't buy most wanted because it looked exactly like hot pursuit (and the original most wanted game is better). Rivals looks great, but it seems like I have already played that game.
I think EA needs a rotation of racing games, like they are planning with their FPS games. Hot pursuit/Rivals/Most wanted are practically the same game. Underground could be another type of game. The last could be a burnout/crash kind of game, offroad game or simulation (though sim games sell like shit if they aren't called GT or Forza).
SolarPowered
Member
Now we know the new sales targets for Tomb Raider 2 and RE7.
SwiftDeath
Member
15 million copies
RIP Underground
It was good to know you
RIP Underground
It was good to know you
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
my brain is full of fuck. what the hell is this? maybe I'm reading the op out of context.
edit:if money is the issue then why not kick starter to gauge interest ? damn, something
edit:if money is the issue then why not kick starter to gauge interest ? damn, something