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GTA V PS4/XONE Downgrade - Version 1.00 Vs 1.08 Comparison [edit: BUG]
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CambriaRising
Member
You know what's cool in games?
Choices.
Choices.
bananafactory
Banned
Yup.
FFXIV still the only console game to get this right.
You want higher framerate or better graphics? One simple toggle.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
This is their trick to make you guys triple dip and pick up the PC version.
Of course the PC version will be bugged to fuck too, but the re-remastered GOTY version coming next year... that's the best version.
Of course the PC version will be bugged to fuck too, but the re-remastered GOTY version coming next year... that's the best version.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
I haven't noticed and I've had gta day one.
Fortunately i've already beaten it on Xbone and i wasn't planning on playing it again, too many other new games to play...but that sucks, i didn't notice any frame rate big issue during my playthrough so i don't understand the motivations of this downgrade after all these months...it could be an error due to heist update maybe
alexandros
Banned
Console optimizations at work 
. Seriously though, if this is deliberate and not a glitch I support it. A stable framerate is much more important than a few graphical effects.
. Seriously though, if this is deliberate and not a glitch I support it. A stable framerate is much more important than a few graphical effects.I do much of my gaming on the WiiU, and 'most of the time at 30' doesn't count for shit.
They've legitimately improved the experience of playing the game, the only problem is that they didn't have it running like this at launch.
EDIT: For reference I now play GTAV exclusively in GTA Online, so maybe the performance boost is more obvious there than in the single-player.
Has Rockstar commented on this at all? I recall the tree sway issue being a bug...I wonder if this is too. Something that accidently made it to the PS4/Xbone versions of the game from the PS3/360 versions.
I can dream, atleast. The framerate wasn't really that bad, not enough to warrant completely ditching parallax mapping. If that's the case, then I'd like a discount on the PC version of the game as I effectively traded in my PS3 version for the PS4 version for better graphics.
I can dream, atleast. The framerate wasn't really that bad, not enough to warrant completely ditching parallax mapping. If that's the case, then I'd like a discount on the PC version of the game as I effectively traded in my PS3 version for the PS4 version for better graphics.
DOWN
Banned
Your experience, not mine. It was rightfully enjoyed as it was and bought because of graphical improvements they showed in detail, and clearly not everyone wanted these effects taken out to remove relatively small fluctuations.
Losing all parallax and scaling down AF is over the top for the change this brought in framerate.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Framerate was bad during day driving, but I doubt it was a factor of POM. Draw Distance, I get it, but something that was present on select parts of the game? Doubt it.
Except for the fact that this is completely false.
Final Fantasy 14 PS4 'Full HD Quality' vs 'HD Quality' Modes Comparison
Except for the fact that this is completely false.
Final Fantasy 14 PS4 'Full HD Quality' vs 'HD Quality' Modes Comparison
Robot Pants
Member
Why would they do this?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Well, looks like I won't update my copy when I pop it in.
HoodWinked
Gold Member
i'd take the framerate than mostly indistinguishable parallax mapping.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
So the PC version they have to sell in a few weeks looks even better when compared to the PS4 version.
bananafactory
Banned
Haha wow. What's the point then?
Though it does seem like the 1080 version drops more frequently than the 720. Still...the parts where 720 FPS drops lower than the same scene in 1080...just...how....
I do wonder if FFXIV PS4 version will get the DX11 effects from Heavensward.
Always-honest
Banned
Allready finished it.
I'm sure it will look good enough for heists. Still need to play that.
But pretty weird...
I'm sure it will look good enough for heists. Still need to play that.
But pretty weird...
They had to get stable 30fps somehow LOL. But no seriously, i wonder what the issue is..
If it really was a matter of dialing back some subtle things to get a stable framerate(which i noticed was almost locked on PS4 now while driving through cities), then i support it. Slight things like that versus a much more stable experience is good, that's apart of the optimization effort
If it really was a matter of dialing back some subtle things to get a stable framerate(which i noticed was almost locked on PS4 now while driving through cities), then i support it. Slight things like that versus a much more stable experience is good, that's apart of the optimization effort
SolidChamp
Banned
I've actually noticed more pop-in since the 1.08 update. A lot more. To the point of being distracting.
MrTroubleMaker
Gold Member
It's probably like that tree bug. It seems like everytime they update the game something gets broken. I wouldn't be surprised if this gets fixed in the next update.
SolidChamp
Banned
I'd trade less pop-in and better LOD for framerate, easily.
Agree, but one of the common criticisms about PC gaming I hear in PC vs console discussions is that many don't want to tinker with a game's graphics settings. It is inconvenient and they just want to load a game up and play without worrying if they're getting the most out of the experience. Apparently, not having these options is considered a good thing for them.
On one hand, I think this is ridiculous. On the other, I suppose there is an argument for just accepting what you're given since you have no choice. Some people may not want to be reminded that there are compromises that need to get made with fixed hardware games. If they play with a priority on performance, they are going to feel like they're missing out on graphics and vice versa. This happens in PC gaming and I imagine its a big motivation for many people's GPU upgrades.
Ignorance is bliss, basically.
Still, I do think options would be ideal. Treat us like adults and let us make choices, although I think Rockstar made the right choice improving performance here if that's not an option. Its just now people know what they're missing out on.
Of course, this may just be a bug or mistake, but I think if many are reporting improved performance, its probably not.
AzureSkies
Member
You know that both of them are internally rendered in 1080p right? Standard sadly doesn't improve the framerate, it just outputs at 720p.
bananafactory
Banned
Definitely, I noticed it too.
This makes me wish DF would do some retrospective analysis of the games on the N64 that had resolution options when you had the expansion pak. IIRC Rayman 2 on the N64 had the most options to adjust resolution high or low and sharpness high or low which gave you a good combination for graphical or frame rate options. I dunno how big of a difference they made but that kind of analysis would be neat.
SolidChamp
Banned
Thank god, it's not just me. It's actually been quite bad. I'm more sensitive and distracted by pop-in and bad draw distance/LOD than I am over a few dropped frames. It really breaks the immersion for me.
I was really enjoying the benefit of better LOD and less pop-in with the PS4 version. Suddenly I'm seeing shit loads of pop-in and I'm all like "WTF!?" and my first reaction was "Maybe it's me? Maybe it's my hard drive crapping out?"
Do they really not catch this shit when testing their massive 4+gb update? Or was it intentional?
Won't you have to always play it offline now?
bananafactory
Banned
When it was just car damage, I thought it was a mistake. When you add in worse LOD/pop-in, AF and occlusion changes, it definitely seems intentional at this point
Yes.
But when I want to play online, I have the option to update. And then go back and forth, if I choose.
Tainted
Member
I'm not sure how convenient that 'back and forth' will be for you .... the disc install took forever
You may as just well stay current and if Rockstar get enough flak about it, they will patch it
This isnt really a big deal for me, I was playing it the other day and had a great time. Seems to me that GAF just love their downgrade threads...
Swaying trees was likely an oversight. LoD and pop-in could well be part of the performance optimization.
It sure as heck won't be convenient but I rarely play online yet anyway. I just want to enjoy single player since I haven't had the chance to even scratch the surface of story mode.
And normally framerate means more to me, but it wasn't bad to begin with (on PS4 anyway). I just tried smashing into traffic and could not believe how much the damage has been reduced. I wouldn't care if was only textures but damn, this isn't cool.
Generic Power Ranger
Member
Considering the consoles had all these things before, and the game supposedly ran fine, how does it show this ? Not to mention that the engine is probably only partially optimised for the new consoles since its a remaster of a last gen game.
Ot. I have this on disc and haven't started yet. I hope its a mistake so I won't have to keep the game from updating when I finally get around to playing it.