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what did they say?
User 73932
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C'mon GAF stop being a pain
Vire
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Indie developers tend to have grudges against big blockbuster triple AAA games. They called Halo crap.
MaximumFlipFlop
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It really is a great film. The pressure those guys put on themselves is unreal. And those scenes on release day of Super Meat Boy were so good, such a feel good ending for Team Meat.
Hydranockz
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Mastrqt
/sai
Vire
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Stealin my vocab bro
:lol amazing.
Here's another one for shits and giggles:
lol, what the fuck is this garbage?
Protestors at comicon, really?
Vire
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We should tell them we are here to see a game called Halo.
YOU SINNERS, LIKING YOUR DAMN VIDEO GAMES.
We have city events (fairs, ice shows, etc) and they show up here, they are everywhere..
Oh religion... how dare people spend time not reading the lords book.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
We're just going to have to accept the fact that some people will try (successfully) to hate Halo 4 because it doesn't live up to some magical or imagined past Halo game that nostalgia has created.
Roddslayer
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Were they protesting or just sharing their faith?
Vire
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Looks like protesting, hence the whole "Be Saved" bullshit and talking about sin.
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User 73932
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Same exact people were at E3. Actually the guy I took the pic next to was very nice to me. Others seemed fairly angry.
Hydranockz
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It's not even religion's fault lol. Someone has a sign about being humble. The irony.
I'd be less pessimistic if there were something to be optimistic about as a fan of traditional Halo. Honestly, talk is cheap. Yeah yeah, evolving Halo, pushing boundaries. All I see is a bunch of by-committee decisions coming from the top in an attempt to grab part of the CoD market-share. It's a numbers game. It's design 101, really. Look at what the competition is doing right, bring their ideas into your own product and in doing so improve the entirety of what you're creating. The problem with a product like Halo is its legacy; you're now shoehorning things in which damage part of its identity - which is more than metal space marines and BRs, by the way - and alienating the core group of people who fell in love with the original product. Which is fine as long as they can bring enough new people in to satisfy the shareholders and execs. Who knows if that will happen.
All I know is I play Halo: Reach multiple times a week, every week, and while 343 promises Halo 4 will have great streamlined playlists, matchmaking in Reach is still a shit-show. I've heard enough empty promises from Halo devs to last me a lifetime. What I can actually see is the current Halo game festering away, while the people in charge say the next game won't suffer from the same problems as the current game, even though they have the opportunity to fix it now. I am well aware that resources must be allocated properly, and in doing so existing products can get left behind, but it still resonates poorly with me.
People always fall for the hype train. They eat up developer promises, regurgitate press releases and get lost in the excitement. Hell, I posted that stuff the other day from the Reach Beta thread where people were trying to convince me that bloom was an "evolution" in gun play and that I needed to adapt. The very person who starts all these OTs said weakening grenades, making the pistol more powerful, and adding bleed-through were "very, very bad ideas". It's full on Kool-Aid mode right now, and I'm not claiming to be a soothsayer but you can in fact provide feedback prior to release without playing the game. The incredulity with which some people view the negative comments of fans of traditional Halo - in a thread swarming with dislike about superfluous additions to traditional Halo (hello, Reach) is hysterical.
I mean, here's how I break it down:
I like traditional Halo
- We're showing off riot shields, perks and prestiges
I expect major leaps in Forge after three years of dev time, enough so that bad original maps could potentially be bested by community maps
- Forge looks the same except it has better lighting
I like clean, simple maps that are elegantly designed and play great
- Huge maps with fancy skyboxes and giant mechs that seem like they're designed to fit into the canon rather than built for gameplay
Proper playlist management could alleviate a lot of my fears
- 343 playlist management has been horrendous in the time they've been in charge
I don't put faith in promises
- 343 says "trust us"
Could Halo 4 be the greatest Halo ever? I guess. Could it have proper playlists that offer standard Halo with the bonus of a hit-scan BR and better netcode? Sure it could, I hope it does. Right now though, to say there is no reason to be pessimistic is to put your head in the sand.
What?
I love you, man.
NobleGundam
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On the Hype train or not Hardcore/Pros would totally agree with this for it's straight up facts. I like the honesty you give that most fans overall lack the time and effort to provide a reasonable pov of the pros and cons.
Hydranockz
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Mazer Rackham
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that was a beautiful post Kylej
I just wanted to say, congratulations, Hypertrooper. I imagined you doing this when you found out you were getting a hoodie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ksNDy-_E_A#t=02m08s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ksNDy-_E_A#t=02m08s
Hydranockz
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Sweeeet.
Franklinator
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Pretty much agreed, Kyle. Although I guess I'm a bit more optimistic that the "new version" or whatever of Halo has the potential to be really fun. So overall I guess I'm very cautiously optimistic.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Well, looks like the Scattershot will haunt me forever since Frank calling me out on my performance has made me self conscious. 
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
What is the whole Hyper hoodie story anyways? I think a lot of us here would love a 343 hoodie.
This is a brilliantly succinct description of Prometheus.
Been rearranging my house and adding new stuffz to it all day. Some catch up thoughts:
--Yay for a hoodie for Hyper, good show guys. 343 rocks for doing things like this. (I wore mine for like, six months straight this fall/winter, they're ridiculously cozy.)
--I expected some alterations to objective game types given 343's updated take on Slayer, though I didn't anticipate the specific CTF alteration. When I read the news I thought the flag would be on the back, Speedflag style, and found it looks kinda goofy with the flag in one hand and the pistol in another. The magic pistol teleporting into the carrier's hand is....odd, but I can see where they're going from a gameplay standpoint. Are carrier's base speed still reduced? Since everyone has Sprint I'm not sure it's as essential; the pistol limitation on the carrier may be enough. Need to play. Also, stop rambling.
--Objective assassinations look great, as does Oddball tossing/catching.
--Please 343, put out a vidoc like this, or perhaps this, describing the changes to MP and your thoughts behind them. Bungie was so great at putting out videos that actually explained their game (such as this), but there's a HUGE hole in the way information is communicated from 343. Fan reaction videos, sizzle reels, typically poor gaming journalism muddling messaging, and now liveblog updates from convention panels is sending tons of incomplete, out of context or poor communicated information to most of the fan base. Please, put something together about your MP along the lines of the vidocs above, they're not only sorely missed, but given the scope of the changes to MP, I think they're a critical tool for actually explaining this stuff in ways 343 has not done a great job of so far.
He's persistent.
Is there pics of this hoodie online?
Well, looks like the Scattershot will haunt me forever since Frank calling me out on my performance has made me self conscious.
Welcome to my world
Hydranockz
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4 words. Good job.
User 73932
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Domino hooked me up with one of the coolest things. Thanks man!
From what I've read, you just get a pistol along with the flag when you pick it up. Might be mistaken.
Looks good man!
No period though. Not a complete sentence.
I want to know this too. I also want to know if this shit is going to apply to every CTF game.
I'm still upset as hell about this. Even more than the lobby UI.
Vire
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I think Bungie spoiled us in this regard since it's really not all too common that you get ViDoc's for big budget games these days where the developers peel back the curtain a little. Unfortunately, it seems like the all of the behind the scenes stuff has been relegated to limited and collector's editions. I really hope 343 steps up to the plate though because Halo is such an intricate game and with so many changes made to the sandbox, it would be great to hear from the source itself about what went into it. What we are getting now is like the telephone game from pre-school where the message is passed on through three different sources until it eventually get's back to us in a garbled mess. Hopefully this can be addressed in the near future.
Again, information not clearly communicated to the fan-base at large. I know Frankie tries his best on here, but it sometimes isn't enough. Bungie was much better at explaining this kind of stuff through Bungie Weekly Updates...
I mean, from a UI and game flow standpoint, that's one of the better solution - you don't want players getting confused as to why they can shoot a gun with the flag and at other times they cannot. So the flag acting the same way each time you picked it up works better for the general population. edit: also it's theoretically safer engine-wise as if you force the pistol when the flag is picked up, it'd be harder for people to trick the game into doing something like carrying a BR or Sniper Rifle with the flag.
But on the other hand, why would I even select a sidearm in an objective loadout if I don't have to trade being able to attack with the flag for two ranged weapons off-spawn?
MrGreencastle
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This absolutely should happen. Completely agree that the ViDocs/BTS videos are sorely missed.
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