You must be living in an alternate reality where Donald Trump is a good person...
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I am meeting a Trump supporter this week. Help.
- Thread starter Lord Thrappleper The 49th
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You must be living in an alternate reality where Donald Trump is a good person...
I find that to be a thing people say rather than actually practice. It certainly sounds like they're fucking
JordanN
Banned
I dare you to name one positive thing about Donald Trump as a person. Just one.
Albino_Yeti
Member
Many people still hold Clinton responsible for Benghazi. Many others also just viewed her as another slimy career politician, whereas Trump was an outsider breaking the mold. It's not a terrible sentiment, politics could desperately use some new blood, but unfortunately we got Trump as the outsider and not someone decent like a Bill Gates or Elon Musk type.
MotionBlue
Member
I don't think GAF has made me cringe/facepalm on several levels before this thread.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
I say this with all due respect to you, but are there feelings you harbor for this woman that are maybe making this more of an emotional reaction than it needs to be? Obviously this dude is a giant bigoted asshole, but I just don't understand why you'd even agree to sit down and hang out with someone like that unless you thought you weren't going to end up in a heated political argument. Going in with the foreknowledge that you will be arguing from different sides of the political spectrum seems a little self-destructive to me unless you were trying to prove to your friend that she should not be with this man (and maybe instead should be with you?).
All that said, sorry that things turned out this way for you. Sounds like a pretty shitty evening to be sure.
TTOOLL
Member
I'm not talking about judging Trump, I'm talking about people who voted for him, totally different things.
Given my rights, the rights of those I care about, the rights of millions of others and the planet itself are all in danger because of Republican votes, yes.
Lord Thrappleper The 49th
Member
Nah. I'm happily married. Truth be told i don't have many friends. The ones i have are ones i made over an extended period of time. I really didnt want to lose this friendship for that reason.
JordanN
Banned
It's the same to me.
When Trump said it's ok to assault women because you're rich, what did the Trump voter do? They went straight to the polls and made him more powerful. They all share the same blood on their hands.
You can't separate the two when they voted for a known con artist and scum bag...
It's completely fair. Trump voters can go fuck themselves.
You know what's not fair? Watching this orange fuckwit escalate nuclear war and pull out of climate change agreements... you know, shit that affects all countries.
GameAddict411
Member
You vote for someone who reflects some of your beliefs. They are not Trump obviously, but they supported his rhetoric and they are to blame here in putting him in power. As for the OP, there is no convincing a Nazi. If you want to have a good time avoid politics(might be impossible). If I were you I would cut off your friend for accepting a nazi as life partner. It's pretty fucked up and it shows how much she cars about people in general.
My problem with that though is that by voting for him would mean that despite his rude, vulgar, and manbaby type actions that he has regularly displayed prior to the election, that the person who voted for Trump actually thought he was still fit to run a country.
I will lose all respect for Trump voters specifically for this reason.
See i've heard the "outsider" rhetoric before and even that doesn't make sense. Business people, especially of that stature are well aware and run in the exact same crowds as the politicians and with them. As we are seeing with this ongoing Russian investigation. When people argue that politicians are corrupt, or taking money, who the hell do they think they are taking the money from? People like Trump and his friends. When exactly did business people get more trustworthy than politicians? And when he started talking about draining the swamp people knew what was coming, and guess what, he did exactly what people knew he was going to.
So no, i don't buy the outsider thing one bit. It feels like something sold to that group for them to just repeat. If its was some small town nobody joe schmoe maybe I could buy the outsider thing but Trump? No, outsider my ass.
And if these people cared so much about the lives lost in Benghazi they wouldn't be cheering Trump on to rush to a war with NK.
He is connected to the big bang and the universe, like the rest of us.
Is it a positive thing if what I said is just the default thing..?
GameAddict411
Member
The fact she accepted him as a nazi should have been a a huge red flag. Regardless, you are better off believe me. You will find other worthy friends eventually.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
ah, I gotcha. Well, not all friendships were meant to be. At this point, I am wondering why your friend wanted you to be there if it was so obvious you and the dude would butt heads like this. Was she trying to convince you that Islam is dangerous or something? The whole situation stinks.
Relentless 757
Member
Well, for many of my family members, their justification for their scorn towards Clinton is a mixture of emails, Benghazi, and other regurgitated garbage thrown at Clinton throughout her long political history. This always made me unhappy, but it's literally their (garbage) opinions.
Basically, their brainwashed by republican pundits.
Albino_Yeti
Member
You make a good point. I doubt too many people looked that far into it and just assumed 'not a politician' = outsider. Hopefully the next time an 'outsider' comes into play people look real good at them to make sure they actually are an outsider, if that's something they value.
GiantBombGamer
Member
She will either learn the hardway and end up divorced in a few years, or she will be indoctrinated into his view of the world. Although, maybe she has some of the same beliefs and you just didnt know until being with him emboldened her.
Either way, you can't choose who your friends date, even if you feel they are the scum of the earth, which in this case I'd say you're right.
She chose this guy over your friendship, and that sucks, but there's not much you can do from your end.
Either way, you can't choose who your friends date, even if you feel they are the scum of the earth, which in this case I'd say you're right.
She chose this guy over your friendship, and that sucks, but there's not much you can do from your end.
CertifiedFP
Member
Goddamn, every single sentence of this post is making me fucking seethe right now.
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You have all the friends you need on GAF <3
Congrats for trying to reason with an asshole, I don't have that patience anymore.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Hey man, if you need to talk I'm here and I'm sure all of GAF is too.
Fuck this asshole and your friend, they are horrible people I mean I read the update about them and when you mentioned fucking Genocide.
I mean really dude, that and they treated you like shit because they have no interpretation of an actual religion outside of propaganda and ignorance...like a lot of people.
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Raylan Targaryen
Member
If you voted for him to represent the country, clearly that means you're okay with how he is as a person, which means you're the same kind of person.
No one is going to vote for someone that is nothing like them or doesn't believe what they believe
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
As someone who absolutely despises Trump and admittedly judges people who voted for him, there are people that voted for him in spite of his beliefs because they felt that Hilary Clinton was worse. People like pro-lifers, or those that believed he would lower taxes. There are people who thought, "this dude is crazy but it's not like the government would allow him to do most of the things he's spewing on the campaign trail, as opposed to Hillary who is an experienced conniving politician." And there are some who just voted just because he was from their party.
I think it's absolutely foolish, but I think labeling people like this as nazis rather than idiots does more to hurt the credibility of those opposed to Trump than help them.
I think it's absolutely foolish, but I think labeling people like this as nazis rather than idiots does more to hurt the credibility of those opposed to Trump than help them.
Zomba13
Member
I think that is more of a diss on the universe than a positive about Trump.
First post is very solid. Consider this if you haven't already.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
People are aware. The discussion of Trump supporters spun out of the OP's story, which is about him dealing with a a Trump supporter.
Not every interaction with somebody needs to be based on politics. You are missing out on countless potential relationships with others if you refuse to associate with those who disagree with you politically or upon meeting said individual your plan to attempt to debate or attack them for those differing views. Political views/ideology is only a small part of most people's lives or identity, so it really isn't going to do much for building relationships with others if right off the bat you want to jump on somebody regarding politics.
Elegant Weapon
Member
I really feel like Trump people understand what they voted for and who they support. Even if they don't, it still hurts everyone who Trump is against all the same, which is most people on the planet regardless of color.
So this empathy for people who are supposedly too stupid to know they're supporting our downfall... nah. They knew and they voted for it, against anyone that isn't like them because that's how Trump campaigned.
So this empathy for people who are supposedly too stupid to know they're supporting our downfall... nah. They knew and they voted for it, against anyone that isn't like them because that's how Trump campaigned.
Duane Cunningham
Member
I mean, if you're trying to say "not everyone who voted for Trump is a piece of shit"... well, this thread is an odd place to do it, because in this case the titular Trump supporter turned out to be a total piece of shit.
googleplex
Member
Trump ran an exclusively white nationalist campaign. ANYONE that supported his messages and voted for him is ether a white nationalist, or is cool with it.
Mercury Fred
Banned
If you're not writing off T***p supporters and cutting them cleanly out of your life, you're doing it wrong.
They deserve no sympathy, no kindness and no coddling. They're toxic, deranged freaks and the onus is on them to get their shit together on their own.
They deserve no sympathy, no kindness and no coddling. They're toxic, deranged freaks and the onus is on them to get their shit together on their own.
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